Vs S65 vs. Bentley Flying Spur?

[Merc1]

like i said the badge and the exclusiveness.. both you and i know that the FS will not beat the S65 on those points i wrote in my previous post.. feel free to wait for the test..
to me there is no charm in bentley any more.... i might take a Arnage over the S65.. but not the frog VAG bentleys the FS and the conti GT

As much as I hate to disagree with Roberto, your post sums up my feelings exactly!!!

M

 

[LaArtist]

lol yeah.. i hate to disagree with roberto to... but im glad that im not alone on this one..

 

[Merc1]

Well I think I will wait for a direct comparison test before I make any comments like that.

Many people who will buy the FS will already be Bentley owners - once you have owned a Rolls-Royce or Bentley, a Mercedes never seems really special ever again - the FS leaves a more glamorous impression than the W221 - even the S65 with Designo interior doesn't have quite the same exclusive ambiance.

I could go for exclusive/presence argument if these newer Bentleys weren't mainly VWs underneath. The Flying Brick doesn't even hold a styling advantage over the S65 IMO, the only real advantage is the name and the interior. I'll give you the interior is in another league from the mass-production S-Class, but exterior is a no-go to me. Now the Arnage, well you know how I feel about that car. Pure aristocratic, old-school Bentley at its finest, inside and out.


M

 

[SDNR]

I could go for exclusive/presence argument if these newer Bentleys weren't mainly VWs underneath. The Flying Brick doesn't even hold a styling advantage over the S65 IMO, the only real advantage is the name and the interior. I'll give you the interior is in another league from the mass-production S-Class. Now the Arnage, well you know how I feel about that car. Pure aristocratic, old-school Bentley at its finest.


M

Sure, I completely understand your point of view Marcus - I feel much the same about the Flying Spur - I would rather have an S class too, but I must give credit where it is due...and the Flying Spur is superior to the S65 as far as ambiance is concerned.......but of course the Arnage is even better - but I still prefer the Maybach 57S and would have a LWB Rolls-Royce Phantom over all of them.

 

[Kleemann_SL]

but I still prefer the Maybach 57S and would have a LWB Rolls-Royce Phantom over all of them.

Im not gonna discusse that, but the FS is not so special at all! Ive seen that car, and aAMG-packeged S500 impressed me more, really.
But a 57S and RR is something else offcourse...

 

[Top Secret]

Hmm...this is much tougher for me, compared to others.

On one hand, the S65 has incredible power (perhaps too much?) and it's arguably the sportier of the two, both in looks and driving dynamics, using logical assumptions. But it's stumbling point is that styling! It just doesn't suit the S-Class at all. Don't get me wrong, I think it's a fabulous design, but it doesn't look 'right' on an S-Class. Like I have said before, the S-Class is not one to be agressive and edgy in its styling, rather serene, elegant and well, conservative.

On the other, the Flying Spur is theoretically a step above. It's more luxurious, it's more 'prestige', it's got the S65 AMG covered in every aspect of what a 'luxury car' is supposed to be. It's interior is top-notch and it's ride is supposed to be excellent. But, like the S-Class, the styling is where it stumbles. Even though a luxury car is supposed to be conservative, it certainly doesn't mean it has to be sleep-inducing. It's just so...boring.

So one has got the sporty section covered, with the other having the luxury all wrapped up. So which one to go for? Are we looking for a sporty car? Are we looking for a luxurious car?

I really can't decide a winner - both have two different mindsets, and the creator fails to address what we're basing our decisons on.

 

[drronh]

Bentley FS:
for: exclusive compared to MB, great interior, superior road presence, will be left up front with the valet, top speed 195 mph!

against: still a fancy Phaeton, poor paint quality, cheap plastic grill makes me wonder what I can't see that they skimped on


MB S65:
for: blistering straight line performance, AMG heritage

against: performance pack leaves speed limiter at 186 mph, will look like every other S class with AMG sport package, shoddy MB build quality, valet will park it in back with all the other ones


In the end they are both chick cars- I'd let the wife decide since she'd be the one driving the kids to soccer practice in it.

 

[PanterroR]

In the end they are both chick cars- I'd let the wife decide since she'd be the one driving the kids to soccer practice in it.

Haha! Good one!

 

[Merc1]

I don't see the new S-Class having "shoddy build quality" though. It has proven (so far) to be anything but that.

M

 

[Mr. M]

I'm surprised that drronh spoke of poor paint quality in the FS. It is painted in the same Dresden factory where the Phaeton is painted, and both cars use the same guys to do the paintjob. The Transparent Factory employs sophisticated methods to ensure the paintjob is immaculate - for example, pores from the nearby fields are blocked out from all parts of the factory to prevent distortions in the surfacing of the paint on the car.

 

[warot]

Sure, I completely understand your point of view Marcus - I feel much the same about the Flying Spur - I would rather have an S class too, but I must give credit where it is due...and the Flying Spur is superior to the S65 as far as ambiance is concerned.......but of course the Arnage is even better - but I still prefer the Maybach 57S and would have a LWB Rolls-Royce Phantom over all of them.

I do too to be perfectly honest. As much as you hate it, IMO, comparing a Benz with a Bentley is just not right. Even if it's owned by VW, a Bentley has that much "I'm rich factor"... and in this range, I think that that is what matters quite a lot.

Who here has seen the FS in person?

 

[SDNR]

I don't hate it warot, it just doesn't excite me at all....but it is very well built and does feel quite special when you sit inside.

I think you are correct that it is a status symbol - a way of being one step above the top Mercedes.

 

[LaArtist]

ive seen it and ive been in it.. it still disguists(spelling?) me

 

[GTA45E]

Build quality and materials from the heavens will never, ever make me want/pick/think about the Bently Flying Brick over the king of the S-Class range, the S65. The S65 will slaughter the brick on the road and look better doing it. The S65 has a little more technology on board too. Very easy decision. S65 all the way. Put the Arnage in the mix and things may, and I say may be different.

M

lOl Merc1, I feel These two cars are built off two totally different design philosophies. The Bently FS is built off the British "old world" design theme most British cars are known for. It`s romance and richness surpasses it`s scientific, technical makup. This is what sells British cars. VW has has helped Bently in the technical department with some new features, however I don`t like the fact that the Bently FS is built off the VW Phaeton`s platform. This (I feel)
Cheapens the Bantlys true feel and DNA purity. Top Gear said the Flying Spur
doesn`t have the feel that the GT Bently coupe does mainly because of the VW platform.

Mercedes-Benz design philosophy is quit different from the British designers at Bently. Romance doesn`t play a top factor from this German designer.
With Mercedes it`s all about the technical numbers that have been squeezed
from scientific research and technical achievements. Sure the "Image Factor"
is there, it`s just not built off "old-world" romance like this British designer.

This is why I feel comparing these two cars is quit wrong in the first place.

German cars are more scientifically engineered than British cars. I think that shows quit a lot, even with the style.

 

[warot]

lOl Merc1, I feel These two cars are built off two totally different design philosophies. The Bently FS is built off the British "old world" design theme most British cars are known for. It`s romance and richness surpasses it`s scientific, technical makup. This is what sells British cars. VW has has helped Bently in the technical department with some new features, however I don`t like the fact that the Bently FS is built off the VW Paetons platform. This (I feel)
Cheapens the Bantlys true feel and DNA purity. Top Gear said the Flying Spur
doesn`t have the feel that the GT Bently coupe does mainly because of the VW platform.

Mercedes-Benz design philosophy is quit different from the British designers at Bently. Romance doesn`t play a top factor from this German designer.
With Mercedes it`s all about the technical numbers that have been squeezed
from scientific research and technical achievements. Sure the "Image Factor"
is there, it`s just not built off "old-world" romance like this British designer.

Excellent post GTA... Although Benz is the king of the popular luxury cars, Bentley is still very "old school" in a kind of way. Which is why no matter how you compare these two cars, I don't really feel that they are even in the same category to be honest.
When was the last time we compared Bentley and Rolls Royce vs Benz and BMW. They just aren't in the same league... they don't have the same philosophy.

 

[cawimmer430]

An S320 CDI will do for me.

 

[GTA45E]

When was the last time we compared Bentley and Rolls Royce vs Benz and BMW. They just aren't in the same league... they don't have the same philosophy.

Exactly, This is where price doesn`t matter! Even if it`s almost the same
you just know your going to get a different kind of car. Bottom line....

 

[Yperion]

ive seen it and ive been in it.. it still disguists(spelling?) me

Artist you have made your point. You don't like the Flying Spur period. It's your right not to like it and i respect your opinion but you don't have to say it 10 times in the same thread cause we already understood. Thanks.

 

[audi_rudy]

i have to say i would not buy the FS for the exterior because the s class even though i dont like that is still better. IF you were to buy that car it would be for the old school elegance of the interior and the showioffness

 

[LaArtist]

well someone asked if anyone seen it in real life.. i responded..dont get upset..