Chiron [Rumors] Bugatti Chiron Successor


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The Bugatti Chiron is a mid-engine two-seater sports car designed and developed in Germany by Bugatti Engineering GmbH. It was manufactured in Molsheim, France, by French automobile manufacturer Bugatti Automobiles S.A.S.. The successor to the Bugatti Veyron, the Chiron was first shown at the Geneva Motor Show on 1 March 2016.
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Confirmed: Bugatti Chiron successor will be revealed in 2024!

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Next-generation hypercar will get a smaller hybrid engine, with a design that will launch Bugatti into a "new era"

Bugatti has confirmed the successor to the Chiron will be revealed next year ahead of a launch in 2026.

It will use a hybrid-assisted petrol V8 powertrain after the firm retired the iconic W16 powertrain with the Bugatti Mistral.

Speaking with Autocar, Bugatti's ex-design chief, Achim Anscheidt, said: “The car is finished. We delivered the prototype tooling a couple of months ago and the production tooling will be delivered in a couple of months from now.”

This comes after Anschiedt announced that he is stepping down as design chief after 19 years at the French firm. He said: “(The successor) was something that was more of a thinking exercise, especially on the interior, and everything I have tried to learn and comprehend over the last nineteen years with Bugatti, I wanted to make sure this experience funnels into the car’s development.”
Anschiedt said the as-yet-unnamed successor has to "bring forward" Bugatti into a new era, while retaining the brand's signature design cues such as the horseshoe grille and 'Bugatti line' - a prominent beltline that has featured on every Bugatti since the Type 57 of 1934.
Drawing on his own experience of the design process, Anscheidt said: “What the Chiron manifests today and where the brand sits from the Veyron to the Chiron and where the brand is now established, it takes a certain level-headed design direction to take that next step and not be drawn into some kind of styling exercise.

It will sit on a new chassis and is expected to be leaner than the Bugatti Mistral roadster, due to the smaller V8 powerplant.
"It will also have its constraints because of performance and performance needs", said Ancheidt, adding: "But we know every centimetre of our cars so well by now that we know exactly where [change] would help us and where it would create a problem.”
Bugatti is being very tight-lipped about its next outing, revealing nothing about the design bar the electrified nature of the powertrain.
Other hybrid hypercars using battery-assisted engines range from the Aston Martin Valkyrie, with its 6.5-litre Cosworth V12 engine, to the Mercedes-AMG One, which has a turbocharged 1.6-litre V6 Formula 1 engine. Expect something nearer the Aston end of the scale for the next Bugatti.

Speaking to Autocar, Bugatti's design director Frank Heyl said the new car will “be even more amazing” than the Mistral, asking fans to “trust us”.
He added: “It's going to be amazing, proportionally, technologically, in terms of innovation, in terms of unexpectedness. It's going to blow people out of the water completely, and it's a true joy to work on this.”

Asked if it could share any design cues with current hybrid hypercars, such as the One, Anscheidt said: “If it were to be comparable, it would no longer be Bugatti.”
Designing the car has also been a challenge, said Heyl. “If you compare [the Mistral] to the LaFerrari, it's actually quite a compact car for what it is, with the gearbox in between the seats, which was done for weight-balance reasons,” he said.
“But with a hybrid powertrain, you have the added weight of the batteries, so you have to reconsider the architecture of the whole car.”

The interior, however, won't be getting a dramatic overhaul, instead staying close to what the firm already delivers, Bugatti interior designer Aldo Maria Sica said. We expect it to make use of a larger central infotainment touchscreen in the same vein as the modernised Aston Martin DB12.
The new car is expected to cost more than the €5 million (£4.2m) Mistral.

Next up, Bugatti will look at an electric car, Bugatti Rimac boss Mate Rimac has said previously.

 
It does say it's gonna be a V8, though. Contrary to some earlier rumors it's gonna be an NA V16.

Not that Autocar can't possibly be wrong, of course.

I also doubt it's gonna cost more than €5M.
 
Performance cars have always taken engines as the proverbial dick-measuring contest for decades to differentiate themselves and this is the paradox that every ICE performance car will have confront this decade. How do you suddenly convince your audience that small pee-pee is better after banging drums to big d!ck energy for decades.
 
Anyone on the forum in the know about what the engine is going to be? The earlier rumors all pointed to a Cosworth built N/A V16, also do we know anything else about the car? Name, weight etc?

Was hoping it’ll be shown at Pebble this year but Autocar says 2024.
 
Bugatti Chiron designer steps down after 19 years!😔

Achim Anscheidt will be succeeded by his deputy after designing cars including the now-confirmed Chiron successor!

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Achim Anscheidt, Bugatti's chief of design, has stepped down after 19 years after overseeing the firm's most ambitious projects, such as the Veyron Super Sport, Chiron and the Chiron’s successor.

Anscheidt, who became design director in 2004 following various roles at Porsche and Volkswagen, will be succeeded by his deputy, Frank Heyl, who was previously involved in the Chiron's development. Anscheidt will now become a senior advisor to Mate Rimac, Bugatti Rimac CEO.

Anscheidt was responsible for the design of multiple special editions of the Bugatti Veyron, as well as the Veyron Super Sport, Chiron, Centodieci, Divo, Mistral, Galibier and the hybrid-powered successor to the Chiron, which will be revealed in 2024. He did this using a self-proclaimed design philosophy of "proportion, perception, and persistence".

Sharing where his inspiration came for the current flagship's successor, he said: "The Veyron, the Chiron and the successor to the Chiron all share this one thing. They are not race cars for the road. They are the pinnacle of 'grand tourisme' development. They are an intriguing mixture of a nimble Type 35, the luxury of the Type 41 Royale and the peerless elegance of the Type 57 SC Atlantic.”

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He added: “I will be forever grateful for having been a part of this incredible developing Bugatti journey. The best is still to come and I’m truly thankful to all who supported the brand and our design department to help us evolve the brand to a place where I know Ettore and Jean [Bugatti] would be proud.”

Over a near-two-decade career, one of his priorities was creating cars that are "unmistakably identifiable as Bugatti". In an interview with Autocar, he said: “I can explain design best if it follows the philosophy of form follows performance. When you come to a territory of price segments above £2 million to £4 million, it is not a matter of moving a line up and down. It needs to be something that really identifies the brand - visual cues that you with that brand only."

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President of Bugatti automobiles Christophe Piochon said: "To create a car around the W16 engine, and one capable of world record speeds, requires a huge amount of balancing aerodynamic forces and active temperature handling. Achim has a very natural technical understanding of all these demands, able to craft beauty from necessity.”

Speaking with Autocar, Anscheidt emphasised visual cues that meant cars could be viewed as though they were a "high-end timepiece", including the horseshoe nose and centre line originating from the Type 57 (called the 'Bugatti line')."

Will he be remembered or forgotten? To the Bugattisti the answer is quite obvious.

But his creations with others that he created will I think be regarded as, as time goes on, as masterpieces. I may be wrong.

But you'll never mistake a Bugatti for anything else, currently, or ever.

 
Half a Bugatti engine does not a V8 make.

Well according to Achim it's a V8. Previously apparently it was rumored a V16. If it's Cosworth they can chop down the middle, I know very exceptionally highly unlikely, I was being a little facetious, I was shocked initially, very (😭) to be honest, I mean it's Bugatti right?

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Well according to Achim it's a V8. Previously apparently it was rumored a V16. If it's Cosworth they can chop down the middle, I know very exceptionally highly unlikely, I was being a little facetious, I was shocked initially, very (😭) to be honest, I mean it's Bugatti right?
According to Autocar it’s a V8, they insinuated that Achim stated that but there was no direct quote so I wouldn’t take their word on it for now.

It wouldn’t make sense that Lambo uses a V12 and VW’s halo brand uses a V8 but maybe I’m wrong, 2024 needs to get here quick!
 
Bugatti Chiron Follow-Up Will Be Unveiled in 2024 with a Hybrid V-8<?

The iconic W-16 engine is dead, and the Chiron's V-8-powered successor will start production in 2026, using Rimac's electrical know-how for its hybrid components.

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The design of Bugatti's next hypercar has been finalized, according to an Autocar interview with Bugatti's former chief of design, Achim Anscheidt, who just stepped down from his helm.
Instead of a W-16 engine, the next Bugatti will use a hybrid V-8, as Bugatti takes advantage of its merger with the electric hypercar geniuses at Rimac.

The Chiron successor will still include classic Bugatti styling elements like the horseshoe grille and C-shaped design on the side bodywork.

The next Bugatti hypercar will represent a major transformation for the brand. In an interview with Autocar, Bugatti's former chief of design, Achim Anscheidt, said that the Chiron successor will be shown for the first time next year, with production commencing in 2026. Most notably, the next Bugatti ditches the brand's famed W-16 engine for a V-8 hybrid setup, presumably using the electrical expertise of Croatian automaker Rimac, which merged with Bugatti in 2021.

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The car's design is apparently ready to go, with Anscheidt telling Autocar, "We delivered the prototype tooling a couple of months ago, and the production tooling will be delivered in a couple of months from now." Anscheidt is stepping down from his role as the head of styling for Bugatti, with the Chiron follow-up acting as his final project. "Everything I have tried to learn and comprehend over the last nineteen years with Bugatti, I wanted to make sure this experience funnels into the car's development," he said.

The next Bugatti will still feature iconic design cues like the horseshoe grille and C-shaped side bodywork seen on every Bugatti since the 1934 Type 57. Built around a new chassis, swapping the gigantic W-16 for the V-8 powertrain should result in a lighter vehicle. Bugatti's design director Frank Heyl also told Autocar that integrating the batteries for the hybrid component required the company "to reconsider the architecture of the whole car."

The brand's interior designer, Aldo Maria Sica, however, revealed that while the powertrain will be a significant departure from Bugattis of old, the interior won't stray too far from the Chiron, with elegant designs and ornate controls. The Chiron successor may receive a large central touchscreen to run the infotainment, something that has been absent on the Chiron and all of its limited-production spin-offs.

The next Bugatti hypercar is expected to cost even more than the $5 million Mistral, the final Bugatti with the W-16 motor which was limited to 99 examples. After the Chiron successor arrives, Bugatti's attention will then turn to its first electric car, which should draw heavily on the company's partnership with Rimac."


Looks like even the periodicals in the United States of America are going with the V8 hybrid assistance route.

I HAVE asked for clarification about the V8 at the very highest levels so if I hear or get told something, that I can share, very obviously I will.
 
Possibly the next Bugatti under covers at a conference that Mate Rimac and Achim spoke at, in the Rimac Campus.

It makes sense possibly because the Bugatti top brass are present maybe it's their car? I'll try to compare the two tomorrow.
 
Info from our residential Bugatti insider:
I have asked my friend about those recent reports about V8 hybrid.

His answer:
-no, this is false, V16 was planned from the beginning, and the engine is already developed
-design is almost finished, maybe there will be only minor adjustments in future
-yes, Q2 2024 debut, concept/preproduction car
-yes, production date probably wont be before 2026. Development is nowhere near finished, to make everything work is not easy obviously
-everything is bespoke and built from scratch, even buttons in interiour

While I am still keeping my mind open to any possibility, I do think that a V16 makes more sense than a V8.

As it's gonna be a hybrid, it would be fair to assume it's gonna be way over 2000kg. To deliver performance greater than that of the Chiron, over 2000hp will be required. Getting the majority of that from e-motors is not practical because you would need an overly heavy battery to supply enough power. So the ICE will need to produce at least half of the total power.

This pretty much rules out an NA V8. Even a high revving, 5-5.5L V8 would only be good for about 800hp. Any more displacement than that and it would be better to go with a V10 or V12.

A twin turbo V8 is a possibility, but the problem with that is that it is the most boring engine setup imaginable. Additionally, it's probably not possible to get 1000hp+ out of the TT 4L V8 that's currently being widely used across the VW range of products, so a new engine would have to be developed. The new 3.8 TT V8 that the Huracan replacement is gonna be using will not be good for 1000hp either.

The final problem with a TT V8 would be that it's simply not prestigious enough for Bugatti and that it doesn't satisfy what Mate Rimac has said about it, namely that "It's going in the opposite direction everybody probably expects."

So, together with the fact that Autocar doesn't provide any quotes of anyone directly saying it's gonna be a V8 (although it's literally the biggest news in the entire article), it does actually seem to me that an NA V16 is more likely (or, at the very least, an engine with more cylinders than eight).
 
Above is correct as far as I know, only adding that the v16 na will be high revving and the car will be supported by the best of the Nevera parts bin. Mate is a car guy that will create a masterpiece with this car.
 
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Bugatti Automobiles S.A.S. is a French luxury sports car manufacturer. The company was founded in 1998 as a subsidiary of the Volkswagen Group and is based in Molsheim, Alsace, France. The original Bugatti automobile brand was established by Ettore Bugatti (1881-1947) in 1909 at Molsheim and built sports, racing and luxury cars. In November 2021, the company became part of Bugatti Rimac, a joint venture between Rimac Group and Porsche AG.
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