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2017 789bhp McLaren P15 will eclipse performance of P1
New hypercar will prioritise track prowess with serious aero, power and weight loss


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McLaren will launch the most extreme road car in its history later this year — and it is poised to eclipse all but the McLaren P1 GTR for on-track performance.

Officials at McLaren refuse to confirm the existence of the car, which will be the second model in the firm’s Ultimate Series after the P1 , which spawned the extreme P1 GTR track derivative. However, Autocar understands the new car is being developed under the project name ‘P15’, and the engineering team has been given a brief to create “the most extreme, track-focused road car”.

In line with McLaren’s publicly stated goal of giving all of its Ultimate Series cars a distinct focus, engineers are said to have been given the freedom to prioritise performance over anything else. One source has described the P15 as a “track weapon” with the goal of delivering “the most exciting and thrilling driving experience on track”.

Power will come from a modified version of the 3.8-litre twin-turbo V8 that is at the heart of every McLaren road car on sale today. It’s likely to be linked to a tweaked version of the seven-speed gearbox in the 720S. However, the engine in the P15 is said to have been extensively worked on to produce close to 800PS (789bhp). This exceeds the 727bhp produced by the roadgoing P1’s engine, but below the 903bhp peak achieved when the P1’s electric motor is also in operation.

However, with its two-seat configuration said to be one of the few concessions to practicality, the P15 is also expected to weigh less than 1300kg — a substantial saving over the 1547kg P1. This would give the new car a power-toweight ratio that eclipses the P1’s 647bhp per tonne — a crucial factor in achieving the goal of outstanding performance on the track.

Although McLaren’s focus has so far been on lap times over straight-line pace, the P15 will eclipse the 720S’s quarter-mile time of 10.4sec and challenge the P1’s 10.2sec. Likewise, it could potentially match the P1’s 0-60mph time of 2.7sec and get close to the P1 GTR’s 2.5sec. The 720S has a 0-60mph time of 2.8sec. It is over the 0-120mph sprint, though, that the P15 is likely to display its extra pace.

In part, the low weight has been made possible by the use of McLaren’s latest Monocage II one-piece carbonfibre tub, which was first used on the 720S launched earlier this year and now includes the roof structure. The surrounding bodywork is said to be all carbonfibre — although, intriguingly, our source has suggested that bodywork has been used only where it delivers a performance, rather than aesthetic, benefit. As such, the car is said to have a look described as “brutal”.

The source said: “This is the ultimate distillation of form following function. Whichever part of the car you look at, you will visually understand the function of the components.”

However, despite the project’s engineering-led bias, the look of the car is said to have been led and signed off by Rob Melville, who was promoted to McLaren’s design director in May. As a result, our artist has speculated that the car will retain many familiar McLaren design features, partnered with extreme wing and diffuser elements and even more aggressively aerodynamically shaped bodywork.

That look will include a substantial front spoiler and a rear wing described as “huge”. To achieve its track goals, the P15 will set new standards for active aerodynamics across the surface of the car. Details remain secret, but this will likely mean incorporating self-adjusting front and rear spoilers that will be fed air by a variety of ducts and scoops that can also open and close as required. The ride height of the car could also be adjustable to maintain maximum efficiency.

McLaren has already this year filed two patents relating to active aero, which is set to become a hallmark of the next generation of supercars and hypercars. The company’s Formula 1 know-how should help it establish early supremacy in the area with the P15.

There is also speculation around the shape of the front end of the car. The source said the front boot space of other more mainstream McLarens has been sacrificed in pursuit of performance, giving rise to the possibility of a significantly different look for the car.

Inside, the P15 is said to be stripped back in every way possible without breaching legal requirements for a road car, with even the seats adapted from lightweight racing car versions to save weight. Luggage space is said to be restricted to the point that there is room in the rear to carry only two crash helmets and sets of racing overalls.

P15 launch details remain scarce, although customers are said to already be vying for the limited production run of 500 cars. An official reveal event is expected to be held before the end of the year, but this is likely to be restricted to existing McLaren customers or those who have registered an interest in the car.

Starting prices will be about £700,000 plus tax (£840,000 in the UK) — almost the same as the P1, which was priced from £866,000, including tax, when it was launched in 2012. A public debut for P15 is anticipated for the Geneva motor show in March 2018, with deliveries beginning in the summer.

Due to the expected level of demand, McLaren’s marketing bosses are said to have ruled out producing official special editions of the P15 via the McLaren Special Operations (MSO) bespoke offshoot, but customers will be offered the opportunity to customise their cars. The service’s popularity among customers was reflected last year when MSO grew its revenue by 143%.

Although the P15’s raison d’être is track performance, there is no indication whether or not McLaren will pursue headlines with an assault on the Nürburgring lap record, or records at other circuits. McLaren ran the P1 at the Nürburgring ahead of the car’s launch but revealed only that its lap time was below seven minutes. Most recently, Lamborghini garnered attention when it claimed the Huracán Performante set a lap time of 6min 52.01sec, eclipsing that of the Porsche 918 Spyder hypercar, which clocked 6min 57sec.

Although the track focus of the P15 means that Longtail (LT) and Spider open-top versions have been ruled out, the fact that it will be launched in a road-legal form does leave space for an even more extreme, track-only GTR variant to be made later.

The GTR would likely be sold in even smaller numbers than the standard car and at a significant price premium. Customers are expected to be selected on the basis of buying a P15 first. The P1 GTR cost more than double the standard P1 and only 58 cars were produced.

Performance details of a GTR P15 variant remain shrouded in mystery, although the possibility of removing everything required to make the car road-legal could result in a significant weight saving. A P1 GTR is 50kg lighter and has 83bhp more than the standard car. The possibility of using hybrid power to boost performance on the P15 GTR is said to have been ruled out for packaging and weight reasons and because such a car would consequently veer too close to the P1 in concept.

‘P15’ will not be the car’s name when it goes on sale. When McLaren launched its Ultimate Series line of vehicles with the P1, it pledged to give each one a name rather than applying a horsepower figure and derivative denomination, as it does for its Sports and Super Series cars. The previous use of P1 suggests that the firm will lean on its racing heritage in some form. It is expected to do the same with the other Ultimate Series car known to be under development, the three-seat, F1-inspired hyper-GT. Codenamed BP23, the car will be revealed next year and arrive in 2019.

2017 789bhp McLaren P15 will eclipse performance of P1 | Autocar
 
Excellent. The AM Valkerie and and Mercedes Project One will have some competition. Ferrari will unlikely succeed the LaFerrari until its worthwhile.
 
I guess McLaren wants to be a part of the game that Benz and Aston will be in. Too bad they seem to be rushing it.
 
I guess McLaren wants to be a part of the game that Benz and Aston will be in. Too bad they seem to be rushing it.

Not quite the same. The Merc will be faster than the P1, and this P15 will only be faster than a P1 on the track, as a P1 has more power.
 
McLaren Patent Application 20170101140, Adjustable component cooling device for controlling downforce generated by a vehicle
SUMMARY OF INVENTION
According to a first aspect of the present invention there is provided: an automobile comprising: a flap provided on the underside of the automobile, the flap being deployable from a first position in which, when the automobile is in motion, the flap extends minimally into the flow of air beneath the automobile up to a second position in which, when the automobile is in motion, the flap extends maximally into the flow of air beneath the automobile so as to reduce the downforce generated by the automobile; and a control unit adapted to receive one or more inputs that indicate the dynamic state of the automobile and select a position of the in dependence on the said dynamic state so as to control the downforce generated by the automobile, the control unit being configured so that if the inputs indicate that the automobile is undergoing braking the position of the flap is selected so as to counter the tendency of the automobile to dive due to braking.

Suitably the flap is positioned in a position between the first and second positions.

Preferably the flap is positioned in front of the front wheels of the automobile.

The inputs could include one or more of suspension load, automobile speed, lateral g-force, steering position, brake pedal force, brake pedal position, forward acceleration of the automobile, or the position of one or more active aerodynamic devices of the automobile.

According to a second aspect of the present invention there is provided: an automobile comprising: first and second flaps provided on the underside of the automobile, the first and second flaps being positioned symmetrically about the centreline of the automobile, wherein each flap is deployable from a respective first position in which, when the automobile is in motion, each flap extends minimally into the flow of air beneath the automobile, up to a respective second position in which, when the automobile is in motion, each flap extends maximally into the flow of air beneath the automobile so as to reduce the downforce generated by the automobile; and a control unit adapted to receive one or more inputs that indicate the dynamic state of the automobile and select positions of the first and second flaps between their respective first and second positions, the positions of the first and second flaps being chosen in dependence on the said dynamic state so as to control the downforce generated by the automobile, wherein if the inputs indicate that the automobile is cornering, the positions of the first and second flaps are selected so as to counter roll of the automobile.

Suitably the control unit is configured to select the positions of the first and second flaps such that the flap on the outside of the corner is extended to a greater degree than the flap on the inside of the corner.

Suitably the control unit selects the first position for the flap on the inside of the corner.

Preferably the first and second flaps are positioned in front of the front wheels of the automobile.

The inputs could include one or more of suspension load, automobile speed, lateral g-force, steering position, brake pedal force, brake pedal position, forward acceleration of the automobile, or the position of one or more active aerodynamic devices of the automobile.

Suitably, if the inputs indicate that the automobile is undergoing braking, the positions of the first and second flaps are selected so as to counter the tendency of the automobile to dive due to braking.

Suitably the positions of the first and second flaps elected between their respective first and second positions in dependence on the one or more inputs.

According to a third aspect of the present invention there is provided an automobile comprising: a cooling duct arranged to channel cooling air to a component of the automobile when the automobile is in motion, the cooling duct extending to underneath the automobile; a restriction located within the cooling duct, moveable from a first position in which airflow to the component is substantially unimpeded, to a second position in which the airflow to the component is substantially impeded, such that, when in motion, the automobile generates more downforce when the restriction is in the second position than when the restriction is in the first position; and a control unit configured to, if the temperature of the component is below a predetermined level, select the position of the restriction so as to control the downforce generated by the automobile and, if the temperature of the component is above the predetermined level, select the first position for the restriction.

Preferably the restriction comprises movable louvres.

Preferably the automobile comprises a front splitter, and the duct extends from a region above the front splitter to underneath the automobile.

Preferably the duct extends to a wheelarch of the automobile.

The said component could comprise the braking system of the automobile.

The said component could be a radiator.

The said component could be an engine compartment of the automobile.

The automobile could further comprises a second duct arranged to channel air from a region which is at relatively high pressure when the automobile is in motion to a region underneath the automobile, the second duct comprising a resilient elastic restriction arranged to substantially close off the duct, the duct being configured such that motion of the automobile generates a pressure difference across the elastic restriction, the elastic restriction being configured to open when the pressure difference approximately exceeds a predetermined value so as to allow air to flow from the relatively high pressure region to underneath the automobile and reduce the downforce generated by the automobile.

The region of relatively high pressure could be the cooling duct.

The region underneath the automobile could be in front of a front wheel of the automobile.

The resilient elastic restriction could be arranged to be substantially flush with a surface of the cooling duct when it substantially closes off the second duct.

The automobile could further comprise a flap positioned on the underside of the automobile, the flap being deployable from a first position to a second position such that there can only be an airflow from the relatively high pressure region to the relatively low pressure region through the second duct when the flap is deployed from its first position.

http://www.freshpatents.com/-dt20170...0170101139.php
http://www.freshpatents.com/-dt20170...0170101140.php
 
I don't see the point of this McLaren. It's just "another" P1.
They should wait for 2020 when they have better tech.
I suggest we reserve judgment till it is officially unveiled...Granted, I am also not sure if it'll introduce anything groundbreaking, but McLaren's cars in recent history have been fairly innovative,so let's wait till we hear more about it, I'd reckon
 
Mclife:

P15 is non hybrid.

They are working on the performance upgrade (or so I heard).

The details I heard about p15; 800 HP, doesn't look like a mclaren, see through in certain parts of the car (you'll supposedly be able to see the lower part of the drivers body); a lot of aero; based on this; send in the $185K initial deposit
 
I know it's just a rumor but why would you have a see through body where the lower part of the driver can be seen?
Makes zero sense to me unless there's something I'm missing.
 
McLaren BP15 Teased, It’s The Automaker’s “Most Track-Concentrated Road Car Yet”

Before the BP23 hyper-GT with three seats comes to life, McLaren will introduce the BP15 in the first quarter of 2018. It’s an Ultimate Series vehicle, which means hypercar credentials and the successor to the P1 and the P1 GTR.
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Believed to make use of a non-hybrid powertrain, the yet-unnamed hypercar will slowly but steadily reveal its secrets until the big day comes, probably at the 2018 Geneva Motor Show. The name, as well as initial specifications, will be released before year’s end, and for all that, we don’t know what to expect.

All we have on the BP15 is the codename and a teaser photo of the exhaust. Oh, and some spy photos of a 675LT-based test mule. As you can tell from the featured pic, the Ultimate Series hypercars features three tips integrated into a hexagon-like outlet. The hexagon exhaust motif was used by Lamborghini for the Murcielago LP640 between the years 2006 and 2010.

The BP15 follows up on the P1, which ended production in December 2015. McLaren didn’t tell how many examples will be made, though it’s safe to assume the newcomer will be strictly limited. The P1, for reference, spawned 375 copies, while the P1 GTR was strictly limited to 58 examples of the breed.

Described as “the ultimate track car,” the McLaren BP15 is legally entitled to wear a license plate. In regard to design, the Woking-based automaker has one word for it: “brutal” as in “the purest expression yet of the company’s ‘form follows function’ philosophy.” That’s nice and all, but what about the suck-squeeze-bang-blow?

Well, nothing is known on the subject, but we’d be surprised if McLaren didn’t shoehorn the 4.0-liter twin-turbo V8 from the 720S in the engine bay. In other words, expect more than 720 PS (710 horsepower) from the M840T, 770 Nm (568 pound-feet) of torque, and in excess of 341 km/h (212 mph) on full song.

It’s also natural to assume McLaren will use all of its know-how to make the BP15 lighter than the 720S and P1, as well as quicker and faster than the previous Ultimate Series hypercar. And on that note, all units of the BP15 are already assigned to their future owners, so tough luck if you were planning on buying one.

McLaren BP15 Teased, It’s The Automaker’s “Most Track-Concentrated Road Car Yet”

McLaren P15 Hypercar Test Mule Spied with Monster Aerodynamic Package

About one month ago, our Nurburgring-stationed spy shooters delivered a set of images revealing a McLaren prototype that raised plenty of questions. Well, here we are, bring you a fresh image of the supercar that seems to be a test mule that uses the 675LT as a base.
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Once again, the extreme aero bits on the test car scream at us. At least from this angle (photo via Boosted Boris), it all starts with the super-sized fixed wing. This hangs under its pillars, while appearing to pack adjustable elements. Oh, and let's not forget the diffuser, which spreads over an important area of the rear apon.

Then we have the hefty roof scoop, which is mixed with the overly generous front splitter, with the latter packing side elements that stand out.

There are two main possibilities for this prototype, with the first talking about the car being the successor of the 675LT. As for the second, this sees the tester being used to bring the Ultimate Series P15 to life (we're talking about the successor of the P1 here).

Speaking of the P1, it's already obvious that the newcomer will be quicker than Woking's out-of-production super-hybrid. Truth be told, it can be extremely difficult to imagine how quick the production version of the car we have here will be.

And that's because we're talking about a new member of McLaren's new-age lineup, a range that debuted this year with the introduction of the 720S.

We'll remind you that the 720S recently swept us all off our feet when the hypercar managed to deliver a 9s quarter-mile run. And yes, the thing was in stock conditions, tires included.

Since McLaren has mentioned that it wants all of its cars to pack some form of electrification within a decade, the newcomer could be delivered in gas-electric form.

McLaren P15 Hypercar Test Mule Spied with Monster Aerodynamic Package
 
So, can somebody help me with this...

We've been hearing about the P15 and BP23 as being McLaren's Ultimate Series cars. Are these two designations for the same car, or are these two different cars? And if they are two different cars, how do their agendas differ? I can't keep track of McLaren's codes for some reason.
 
So, can somebody help me with this...

We've been hearing about the P15 and BP23 as being McLaren's Ultimate Series cars. Are these two designations for the same car, or are these two different cars? And if they are two different cars, how do their agendas differ? I can't keep track of McLaren's codes for some reason.
BP23 is the New-Gen Mclaren F1. P15 is a hardcore track/road-car that is completely separate from the BP23.
 

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