F1 [Renders] Next generation McLaren F1 (2018)

[tristatez28lt1]

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[Deleted member 25]

Hmm no.

 

[kingjr9000]

McLaren's three-seat hypercar will be its fastest ever road car
'BP23' uses 4.0-litre V8 hybrid setup, will be most powerful McLaren ever

McLaren’s boss Mike Flewitt said at the Geneva show the new three-seater, the BP23, will be the fastest McLaren ever. And the most powerful road McLaren ever. But it’s not a successor for the F1.

He told Top Gear he is being very careful about that ‘fastest’ claim too. The F1 famously did 240mph. “But there are many definitions of fastest,” he said. “Could be fastest from 100-200mph… it is very powerful and has very low drag.” The perfect equation for high speed.

‘Very’ powerful? Unimaginably so. Both the V8 engine and the hybrid system will be more powerful than the P1’s. And when pulling together, they were 903bhp.

“The BP23 won’t be the fastest round a track. It’s not a track car. It’s a luxury hyper-GT.” The 0-62mph time won’t drop below the P1’s 2.8 sec. Flewitt says that time can’t be beaten without all-wheel-drive. “And we’re not doing a Chiron here. It has to be a McLaren.” Which means light.

The car has a new carbon tub, and a new dash, built around the central driving position. “We have already built a rough interior buck out of bits of wood,” Flewitt says, “and it feels a really special position to sit.”

We’re not doing a Chiron here. It has to be a McLaren

Flewitt confirmed to Top Gear that the BP23 uses a 4.0-litre engine (as per the 720S) not the 3.8 capacity of the P1. And the motor is more powerful, and the battery management software is greatly improved, allowing a lighter but more powerful battery. It won’t have a plug-in capability, though it will be able to run short distances on battery reserve.

McLaren is also looking at retro-fitting that battery management upgrade to the P1. “I don’t want the P1 to get old,” says Flewitt.

It’s going to be an agonising wait. The first BP23 customer gets a car in 2019. There will be just 106 in all – the same number as F1s were built. “And there will be no spiders or track versions. That’s it.”

Oh, you’re too late. They have all been sold already. In fact, says Flewitt, they had three times that number of people asking to buy one.

Originally the BP23 was to have been a one-off, for a special customer. Then that customer brought a couple of his friends along and they wanted them too. There had always been a clamour for another three-seat McLaren, so then it became a full limited-run production car.

But it’s not a successor to the F1. “The P1 is the successor to the F1, and in a few years there will be a successor to the P1.”

http://www.topgear.com/car-news/gen...at-hypercar-will-be-its-fastest-ever-road-car

 

[sako97]

McLaren's three-seat hypercar will be its fastest ever road car
'BP23' uses 4.0-litre V8 hybrid setup, will be most powerful McLaren ever

McLaren’s boss Mike Flewitt said at the Geneva show the new three-seater, the BP23, will be the fastest McLaren ever. And the most powerful road McLaren ever. But it’s not a successor for the F1.

He told Top Gear he is being very careful about that ‘fastest’ claim too. The F1 famously did 240mph. “But there are many definitions of fastest,” he said. “Could be fastest from 100-200mph… it is very powerful and has very low drag.” The perfect equation for high speed.

‘Very’ powerful? Unimaginably so. Both the V8 engine and the hybrid system will be more powerful than the P1’s. And when pulling together, they were 903bhp.

“The BP23 won’t be the fastest round a track. It’s not a track car. It’s a luxury hyper-GT.” The 0-62mph time won’t drop below the P1’s 2.8 sec. Flewitt says that time can’t be beaten without all-wheel-drive. “And we’re not doing a Chiron here. It has to be a McLaren.” Which means light.

The car has a new carbon tub, and a new dash, built around the central driving position. “We have already built a rough interior buck out of bits of wood,” Flewitt says, “and it feels a really special position to sit.”

We’re not doing a Chiron here. It has to be a McLaren

Flewitt confirmed to Top Gear that the BP23 uses a 4.0-litre engine (as per the 720S) not the 3.8 capacity of the P1. And the motor is more powerful, and the battery management software is greatly improved, allowing a lighter but more powerful battery. It won’t have a plug-in capability, though it will be able to run short distances on battery reserve.

McLaren is also looking at retro-fitting that battery management upgrade to the P1. “I don’t want the P1 to get old,” says Flewitt.

It’s going to be an agonising wait. The first BP23 customer gets a car in 2019. There will be just 106 in all – the same number as F1s were built. “And there will be no spiders or track versions. That’s it.”

Oh, you’re too late. They have all been sold already. In fact, says Flewitt, they had three times that number of people asking to buy one.

Originally the BP23 was to have been a one-off, for a special customer. Then that customer brought a couple of his friends along and they wanted them too. There had always been a clamour for another three-seat McLaren, so then it became a full limited-run production car.

But it’s not a successor to the F1. “The P1 is the successor to the F1, and in a few years there will be a successor to the P1.”

http://www.topgear.com/car-news/gen...at-hypercar-will-be-its-fastest-ever-road-car

Seems like McLaren has been beating around the bush in regards to "fastest" since the P1. Why not develop a hypercar that's quicker than the 5 year-old P1 around circuits and that also bests the 20+ year-old 240mph top speed of the F1? Seems appropriate being that this successor with have that same layout, number of units, and price (adjusted for inflation) as the mighty F1.

 

[A.P.]

Biggest lie they ever tell is that they won`t make any Spiders or other versions. A month later they announce a special edition of the special car. Happened with the 675LT, they said no open top, yet it happened just after the launch of the coupe. Not to mention all the MSO 688s, Carbon Series and etc.

 

[Centurion]

Seems like McLaren has been beating around the bush in regards to "fastest" since the P1. Why not develop a hypercar that's quicker than the 5 year-old P1 around circuits and that also bests the 20+ year-old 240mph top speed of the F1? Seems appropriate being that this successor with have that same layout, number of units, and price (adjusted for inflation) as the mighty F1.

Maybe technology hasn't taken a big enough leap to warrant a successor to the P1 just yet?

A hybrid version of the P12 is inevitable and when it arrives it could leave the P1, LaFerri and 918 for dead. It would require a P1 successor to feature alien technology to comfortably be head and shoulders above for at least 5 years and not get trampled on by the class below.

 

[KiwiRob]

So long as it doesn't look like the Longtail F1 I'll be happy. The Longtail wasn't the nicest of the F1's. 3 seats is cool, the owner can take himself, his wife and his mistress.

 

[WBarnes]

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/motor-shows-geneva-motor-show/mclaren-hyper-gt-be-more-powerful-p1

McLaren hyper-GT to be more powerful than P1
Hybrid three-seater will be launched in 2019 as a limited-run model with more than 903bhp

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by Mark Tisshaw
8 March 2017
McLaren boss Mike Flewitt has said the firm’s upcoming hyper-GT, a three-seater homage to the F1 road car, will be a completely different proposition from the P1, its immediate predecessor in McLaren’s Ultimate Series range.

The model, codenamed BP23, will use a hybrid powertrain and be the most powerful McLaren yet when it arrives in 2019. Production will be limited to 106 units, the same number as the original F1. All 106 examples have already been sold to customers hand-picked by McLaren for their loyalty to the brand and how they use their cars.

Whereas the P1 was pitched as being the ultimate sports car, the BP23 will be all about supreme levels of on-road performance and usability, and being an “incredible road car”, according to Flewitt, rather than being designed to lap a circuit quickly. This means the suspension and aerodynamics can be optimised for covering long distances quickly and in comfort.

Talking about the differences between the P1 and the BP23, Flewitt said each Ultimate Series model would have its own unique positioning and purpose.

Despite being a three-seater, the BP23 should not be seen as a replacement for the three-seat F1, but more a homage to it. On that three-seat layout, Flewitt said lots of work had been done to make access for the driver as easy as possible. The driver’s seat will be a full-sized one and the ones either side of it will be slightly smaller but still capable of accommodating adult passengers of a certain size.

The car's carbonfibre structure will incorporate elements of the new one being developed for production in 2020 in McLaren's new Sheffield manufacturing facility and the existing design.

McLaren has previously said the BP23 is “a car designed for long journeys but with the high levels of performance and driver engagement expected of any McLaren”.

The model is the work of the McLaren Special Operations (MSO) division, headed by former Caterham and Zenos boss Ansar Ali. The ‘BP2’ in the codename signifies that this is the second bespoke product to come from MSO and the ‘3’ refers to its three seats.

McLaren has previously revealed a sole image of the model, an abstract bird’s-eye preview sketch. A close look at it reveals the car’s most significant feature: a three-seat layout, with a central driving position and a seat on each side of it, just as in the F1.

Owners have been told that the model will be produced as a coupé only, with no open-top or track-focused GTR variants planned. This is in keeping with McLaren’s brief to make a hyper-GT. The firm reckons a fixed roof is most befitting of an ultimate grand tourer.

McLaren has given little away about the as yet unnamed model’s powertrain, save for the fact that it is a hybrid. A version of the twin-turbo 4.0-litre V8 engine will be at its heart, but this time it will be hooked up to an electric motor and battery pack, as with the P1.

McLaren’s Track22 business plan, announced last March by Flewitt, confirmed more hybrid models as part of the 15 new cars – both regular production and limited run – it plans to launch by 2022. This F1 homage is one of those cars.

The car recognises and promotes the increasing influence of the MSO division, which offers McLaren owners anything from individual paint finishes and trims to full-blown one-off creations. It has made one bespoke product before: the X-1 of 2012.

This new F1 homage will showcase MSO’s ability to develop its own models, with insiders promising a “streamlined” exterior “shrink-wrapped in a carbonfibre body of great elegance” and an exquisitely finished interior with bespoke switchgear. Each of the 106 owners will work with MSO to create bespoke colour, trim and personalisation combinations for their individual cars.

McLaren has given little away about the styling of the car, but it has revealed that its dihedral doors, a feature of all McLaren Automotive models to date, will be powered for the first time and extend into the roof, as on the F1. Sources have revealed that there will be other nods to the F1 in the styling, with a roof-mounted air scoop among the features.

Performance will be explosive, but McLaren will also focus on making the F1 homage its most refined car yet. A McLaren statement read: “The car will deliver the highest levels of refinement, enabling significant journeys to be undertaken with up to three people aboard.”

McLaren has not yet confirmed pricing, but sources have indicated that the new car will cost around £2 million when it arrives in early 2019.