EQS (V297) [Renders] 2020 Mercedes-Benz EQS

[Giannis]

Having taken some time to digest this, there's one thing I can't get off my mind. The standard interior looks like a half-arsed job compared to the optional one, which is even more enraging than a Porsche's standard equipment list.

When such expensive cars require very expensive options in order to look according to their price, I feel cheated.

 

[Mick Briesgau]

I, as an S customer, feel disadvantaged and deprived, that there’s obvious invested a tremendous amount of energy, engineering, progressive ideas and luxuruous, but also modern/alternative materials in the interior of EQS. Much more than in the W223, if you ask me.
If I’d be buying a W223, I would think everytime I’d be seeing an EQS “there goes the real thing!”

 

[Mick Briesgau]

Did someone already mention it’s CW of 0,20? According to mbpassionblog a new world record.

 

[Merc1]

It's not really up for debate that this shape is more ideal from an aerodynamic standpoint. The W124 had class leading aerodynamics for its time yes, but aerodynamics were definitely not a top priority for the car overall or else it would have a profile much more akin to a teardrop.

Now, as I said earlier, I agree the styling could've been more conventional and this was definitely done to show the EQ sub brand as being something different. I can just hear Gorden Wagener saying "hot and cool" which also makes me sick.

Yeah it is, no way you're going to tell me that this shape is the only way to get an aerodynamic vehicle. No way. They could have still made this look like a Mercedes, not a Civic from 13 years ago.

M

 

[fortuner]

Having taken some time to digest this, there's one thing I can't get off my mind. The standard interior looks like a half-arsed job compared to the optional one, which is even more enraging than a Porsche's standard equipment list.

When such expensive cars require very expensive options in order to look according to their price, I feel cheated.

My opinion is I don’t think it’s half arsed I think MB has given the car two options the standard as many said in This thread and on social media is preferred for a lot of people .. It the S class interior with small difference infact my choice between the three would be the hyperscreen then the EQS standard screen and then the S.. so no way is it half arsed IMO.. If you want the extra passenger screen part add the extra and get it for fleet and hotels and so on they would proabably take the standard..

I think they both are beautiful options given to the buyer and defiantly IMO nowhere near half arsed

just my opinion

 

[fortuner]

Did someone already mention it’s CW of 0,20? According to mbpassionblog a new world record.

Yes I read that somewhere or heard in one video anyone know what Tesla new ones drag is and the Taycan ?

 

[Sunny]

Now once they're ready to go all EV, hopefully the S_Class will become an EV with traditional S-Class/Mercedes design ques and we can drop this EQS nonsense.

I suspect it will be the other way around - they will drop the S class and drop the "EQ" in the name to make it the new S.

 

[Serpens]

Yeah it is, no way you're going to tell me that this shape is the only way to get an aerodynamic vehicle. No way. They could have still made this look like a Mercedes, not a Civic from 13 years ago.

M

It's really not, but you sure did skip over the nuance in what I was saying. It is absolutely true that a teardrop shape is best for aerodynamics, but it's also true they could've still had a very aerodynamic car (but not as aerodynamic) that still had more traditional proportions.

 

[Serpens]

Yes I read that somewhere or heard in one video anyone know what Tesla new ones drag is and the Taycan ?

The Taycan is .22, which is still very good. Same as the most aerodynamic version of the A-class actually.

Lucid Air and the Model S ring in at .21. Tesla declined to round up and claimed .208. As you can see, proportions don't have to be like the EQS to be very good.

 

[Sunny]

Yes I read that somewhere or heard in one video anyone know what Tesla new ones drag is and the Taycan ?

Model S - .208., Lucid .21, Taycan .22. But they all probably have less net drag cause of less frontal area.

 

[agem]

Model S - .208., Lucid .21, Taycan .22. But they all probably have less net drag cause of less frontal area.

Yes all of them should be more aerodynamic than the EQS since they have a smaller frontal area.

 

[S600]

The new EQS (V297) is longer than a short S-Class (W223).

The new EQS has a wheelbase of 3.21m and is 5.21m long in total. After all, at 5.21m, the EQS is around 3cm longer than the S-Class (W223) and only 8cm shorter than the long-wheelbase S-Class (5.29m). In terms of wheelbase, the EQS towers over the short S-Class (3.11) by a full 10cm, making it exactly as long as the long-wheelbase S-Class (V223).

source: jesmb

 

[SCOTT27]

Model 3 and Model S front radiators:

They should look at how it was done on older cars. There is not reason why BMW and Mercedes couldn't make the upper grille functional.

Close the bottom vents and instead open up the upper grille.

BMW use the enclosed Grille to hide (when specified) various sensors and future autonomous technology.

 

[Matski]

Yes all of them should be more aerodynamic than the EQS since they have a smaller frontal area.

The coeffecient and the area are equally as important, the Taycan's Cd is 10% more than the EQS so the EQS can have 10% more frontal area and be as aerodynamic (at least in this context). If it's more than 2.563m², it'll be worse than the Taycan... lets wait for the numbers.

 

[Antti]

Any info on how much the hyperscreen would cost as an option? I’d say €2k-€3k including VAT/tax could be acceptable, but if it was like €7k-€8k, then just forget it. For me, I would probably never use the passenger screen because I wouldn’t want anyone’s greasy fingerprints on my hyperscreen, but the whole thing looks so cool that a couple of k would be worth it for the design aspect alone. I guess the challenge would be to stop your passenger playing around with it distracting you from driving as you’d be worried they are changing your settings etc lol

 

[fortuner]

BMW use the enclosed Grille to hide (when specified) various sensors and future autonomous technology.

Pity they can't hide those latest grills..

 

[Merc1]

It's really not, but you sure did skip over the nuance in what I was saying. It is absolutely true that a teardrop shape is best for aerodynamics, but it's also true they could've still had a very aerodynamic car (but not as aerodynamic) that still had more traditional proportions.

It really is. Then we totally disagree because there can be other ways of having a sleek car than this. Since when can’t Mercedes-Benz not make a good looking sedan that is also aerodynamic? This Civic redux is not it.

M

 

[Merc1]

I suspect it will be the other way around - they will drop the S class and drop the "EQ" in the name to make it the new S.

All the same thing, the S Class. I can’t imagine ever dropping that.

M

 

[avilent]

To view this content we will need your consent to set third party cookies.
For more detailed information, see our cookies page.

Accept third party cookies

 

[hoffmeister_fan]

I, as an S customer, feel disadvantaged and deprived, that there’s obvious invested a tremendous amount of energy, engineering, progressive ideas and luxuruous, but also modern/alternative materials in the interior of EQS. Much more than in the W223, if you ask me.
If I’d be buying a W223, I would think everytime I’d be seeing an EQS “there goes the real thing!”

And I think that's the point.

1) the Hyperscreen interior creates a sense of envy and an incentive among some potential S-class buyers to take a chance on an EQS.
and/or
2) Attract customers who aren't a traditional S-class or even a Mercedes buyer. Perhaps somebody who wants a Lucid Air but don't want to take a risk with an upstart and would rather be comforted with a more established brand, like one with a 3-pointed star.

If, and it's a big "IF" right now, if they got the exterior right because thus far I jump from one side of the fence of calling it dopey-looking and then jump to the other side considering it appropriately handsome enough, and IF all the attributes of BEV (range, ease of charging, etc.) are handled well, then Mercedes has quite the winner on their hands.