Red Bull Red Bull Advanced Technologies RB17

[Joelpeyeye]

Red Bull Advanced Technologies, the high-performance engineering arm of Red Bull Racing Group, today announced details of its first hypercar project designed, developed, and manufactured entirely in-house. Created by Adrian Newey, Chief Technical Officer of Oracle Red Bull Racing and Red Bull Advanced Technologies, the RB17 is a two-seat hypercar optimized for the ultimate on-track driving experience. Just 50 RB17s will be made at the Red Bull Technology Campus in Milton Keynes, with production scheduled to commence in 2025.

Christian Horner, CEO of Oracle Red Bull Racing and Red Bull Advanced Technologies, added: “The RB17 marks an important milestone in the evolution of Red Bull Advanced Technologies, now fully capable of creating and manufacturing a series production car at our Red Bull Technology Campus. Further, the RB17 marks the first time that a car wearing the Red Bull brand has been available to collectors.”

Adrian Newey commented: “The RB17 distills everything we know about creating championship-winning Formula One cars into a package that delivers extreme levels of performance in a two-seat track car. Driven by our passion for performance at every level, the RB17 pushes design and technical boundaries far beyond what has been previously available to enthusiasts and collectors.”

Powered by a V8 hybrid engine developing over 1,100bhp, the RB17 takes its inspiration – and name – from the cars that Red Bull Racing has campaigned in the world’s most demanding and technically advanced motorsport series. Designed around a carbon-composite tub, the RB17 features the most advanced ground effect package available in a series production car. Full technical details for the RB17 will be released in due course.

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[Sunny]

Wonder which v8? Maybe the Porsche one in the lmdh if the rumored RB Porsche tie up happens.

 

[duesy]

I'm so happy ? (tears of joy)

Is this it?

I hope the V8 is made by the Red Bull Powertrains!

 

[Joelpeyeye]

thanks for improving what i shared i tried but i didn't know how to do a treath

 

[klier]

I'm so happy ? (tears of joy)

Is this it?

I hope the V8 is made by the Red Bull Powertrains!

Those are some lines on a canvas, not sure what you're seeing in it....????

 

[tristatez28lt1]

It looks exactly the same as the AM in the video?

 

[duesy]

Those are some lines on a canvas, not sure what you're seeing in it....????

I'm just excited to see Newey get to design and make *precisely* what he wants.

It looks exactly the same as the AM in the video?

It certainly does. I don't see how/why Newey could/would dramatically overhaul Valkyrie's overall profile. The two designs cannot be vastly different from a philosophical and technical standpoint, given the proximity of the two projects. Aston designers did shape the upper half/front facia of the Valkyrie, however, so I expect major differences in those areas.

 

[klier]

I'm just excited to see Newey get to design and make *precisely* what he wants.

Fair enough. Me too!

 

[duesy]

No road version whatsoever. Pity:

"Usually Newey would spend the period between Christmas and New Year skiing or taking a holiday in South Africa with his wife, but with no plans in place, he let his imagination run wild on his drawing board. What he came up with was the early sketches for a mind-blowing £5 million (plus tax) hypercar known as the RB17."

ESPN F1 feature article on RB 17

 

[dalab]

"Usually Newey would spend the period between Christmas and New Year skiing or taking a holiday in South Africa with his wife, but with no plans in place, he let his imagination run wild on his drawing board. What he came up with was the early sketches for a mind-blowing £5 million (plus tax) hypercar known as the RB17.

Why it will be that when I vacation I can't think of anything close to this....

It was a matter of time, to sponsor the most important categories of the motor world at all levels from water to air, motorcycles, cars and more, they became owners of the winning teams.

Red Bull is a very atypical example of core business diversification, I think its owner's passion for cars came together with an obvious synergy between the "power" of the drink and its obvious relationship with what cars transmit

 

[duesy]

Why it will be that when I vacation I can't think of anything close to this....

It was a matter of time, to sponsor the most important categories of the motor world at all levels from water to air, motorcycles, cars and more, they became owners of the winning teams.

Red Bull is a very atypical example of core business diversification, I think its owner's passion for cars came together with an obvious synergy between the "power" of the drink and its obvious relationship with what cars transmit

Indeed. A world class organization. They'll soon make their own F1 engines. For a works team to have the discipline and drive to manage such a transition is just unprecedented.

 

[StartYourEngines]

900 kg weight + driver is the target set by Newey.
The car will be a two-seater but it is aimed to compete with F1 cars in terms of ultimate lap times.
As the weight is the limiting factor compared to a current F1 car (798 kg with driver), to compensate in terms of performance Newey basically already announced during a specific podcast that the car will have:

- More downforce compared to the F1 car
- More power as well (as we already know from the headlines)

Anyway, unlike the F1 car, the RB17 will have to be perfectly drivable at any speed the owner desires, ranging from F4 to F1 performance level without any problem at all, as stated by Horner.

Unlike the Valkyrie, no cost cuts should be expected for this project as it will be completely realized internally at RBR and RB Advanced Technologies.

 

[tristatez28lt1]

 

[Revvd]

Lovely artwork, but I think the author completely missed what this project is about. There's no way RB17 will look this conventional.

 

[klier]

Lovely artwork, but I think the author completely missed what this project is about. There's no way RB17 will look this conventional.

Avarvarri tends to have this effect, they basically show what cars will end up not looking like, LOL

 

[Revvd]

Could this guy be getting an RB17?

 

[Jonathan19]

Red Bull's 1250bhp RB17 hypercar is on course for a 2024 reveal

Following two F1 constructors titles in a row, Red Bull will unveil its track-only RB17 hypercar this year

Soon, the Aston Martin Valkyrie won't be the only Adrian Newey-designed hypercar lighting up race tracks across the globe. Red Bull is developing a new £5m track car called the RB17, and following it's initial announcement in 2022, F1 team boss Christian Horner revealed to Sky Sports that the project is slated for a full unveiling this year.

Developed in-house by Red Bull Advanced Technologies (RBAT) with an Adrian Newey-penned design, the RB17 will be powered by a turbocharged hybrid V8 developing in the region of 1250bhp. With no concessions to road regulations, the track-only machine has the potential to push the performance envelope further than the Valkyrie, and potentially even the 1001bhp AMR Pro version.

Red Bull set a target of 900kg for the project, which would make the RB17 lighter than the Valkyrie AMR Pro but 48kg heavier than the GMA T.50s. The cockpit will be closed and have room for a driver and passenger, but will feature a longer wheelbase, larger wheels and tyres, and target an even lower centre of gravity than the Valkyrie. Powering the RB17 will be a twin-turbocharged V8 engine with a hybrid module, which will be produced by an as yet unspecified third party. The engine itself will have 1100bhp, with an energy recovery system powering an additional 150bhp electric motor that will predominantly be used for torque-fill and reducing turbo lag.

Alongside the 1250bhp powertrain, the RB17 will base its aerodynamic package on ground effects – as has been the focus in F1 since 2022. Red Bull has already demonstrated an exceptional understanding of ground effects with the championship winning RB18 and RB19 F1 cars, but the new hypercar will have more tools at its disposal to precisely control underbody airflow and avoid the bouncing phenomenon that plagued Formula 1 at the start of the ground effects era. To function on bumpier track surfaces, flexible skirts will be used in conjunction with an active suspension system, while other banned F1 innovations – such as the blown diffuser – will also be integrated into the technical package.

The car will be predominantly built in-house by Red Bull’s Advanced Technology off-shoot, with only elements like the gear-sets, powertrain and glazing sourced externally. While not set up for mass production, RBAT has a production target of 15 units per year, with no more than 50 to be built in total. The RBAT team, which acts as a consulting firm for the team’s external projects, has been built up over the years to absorb some of the extra personnel no longer able to be employed by the F1 team due to budget cap regulations.

Red Bull has released an initial estimation of price at £5 million not including local taxes, likely making the one very expensive toy for those who want the closest thing to an F1 car in the garage possible. And without the complications of trying to make it type-approved for road use, it’s likely that the RB17's development process has been significantly more straightforward than that of the Valkyrie and Mercedes-AMG One, which both ran into delays and serious technical obstacles.

Adrian Newey to focus on Red Bull RB17 hypercar following F1 departure | Evo

Despite leaving the Red Bull F1 team, Adrian Newey is seeing the RB17 hypercar project through to completion

www.evo.co.uk

 

[Revvd]

...will feature a longer wheelbase, larger wheels and tyres, and target an even lower centre of gravity than the Valkyrie.

Great info! But why would they willingly choose bigger wheels than Valkyrie's 20" front / 21" rear? That one seems a bit sus.
Also, comparing yourself to a car which was notorious for sacrificing everything, CoG included, for the underbody aero, is just silly.

 

[StartYourEngines]

That from Evo is a good summary, but there's actually no relevant news in there.
Everything was well known since the first public reveal of the RB17 dated June 2022.

But why would they willingly choose bigger wheels than Valkyrie's 20" front / 21" rear? That one seems a bit sus.

Bigger wheels just means larger in terms of footprint to accomodate far wider race-spec slick tyres.
Wheels will likely be 18 inch ones as for every serious closed-wheel race car out there since all top tier race tyres from Michelin, Pirelli, Avon etc come for 18 inch wheels (besides 13 inch configurations for open-wheeler Formula cars, but that's another story).

 

[WBarnes]

Is this basically Adrian Newey doing what he wanted to do with the Valkyrie before the accountants stood on his tail?