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USA politics, issues and racism is virtually daily news here anyway. How much its amplified by the World Cup we'll have to wait and see... I suspect how vitriolic the criticism is will depend on which party the President will represent by then, but it's not like the world is blind to America's problems.
I bet you my bottom dollar that media won’t report the USA wc like they did qatar.

The pathetic Swedish ( by the way state owned ) channel kicked it all off by visiting a family in Nepal who lost their father building the stadiums.

After Saudi’s triumph against argentine they had invited a woman from Yemen to talk shit.

They didn’t show any b roll , nothing about the country of qatar in purpose.

I’ll bite off my leg if they give usa 1% of that treatment.

The hypocrisy is stunning these days.

I hope they kick off the USA wc by interviewing a family in flint Michigan.
 
Beyond the autocracy with which some topics are handled in Qatar,

It's not 'some topics', the Emir is hereditary position which has control over all 3 branches of government, and there is obviously, effectively, no pluralism. It's also a non-secular state. These facts alone should be ringing alarm bells even before you get to the various other restrictions on freedoms.

the cordiality, hospitality with which they treated everyone, the stories of the fans and the desire to be known by their people, to give and give beyond money, sharing and enjoying that the world analyzes them more and appreciates them is indisputable

They're a rich country that does business on the world's stage, you would certainly expect them to good at hospitality... especially when it comes to high value events like the World Cup, or F1. However...

people working hard for their country,

... a big part of the problem has been that Qatar 'employed' millions of migrant workers to build this event. It's been built by Indians, Pakistanis, Bangladeshis and many more, these are workers that have, in unusually high numbers, died to provide this hospitality, without even getting any of the rights of citizenship, the long term benefits of the infrastructure they've built, or a sensible share of the wealth of the nation or profits of the World Cup.

Again, that's not to say the Qatar didn't do a good job, but I doubt that morally validates what the real cost was.

Whoever is free of sin should throw the first stone, the USA lately is a joke, its politicians are clowns, some are a hundred times worse, busy with stupidities and asleep before the reality of the world and its own people, you have to understand that your people are not It is their politicians, they are good people who also want the rest of the world to enjoy their land.

Unlike Qatar, in the USA the people can champion differing political ideals and leaders, part of the burden of responsibility for shit politicians and leaders in a free(er) society has to lay with the people (to bigger or lesser degrees depending on the freedom of the media and electoral process).

I bet you my bottom dollar that media won’t report the USA wc like they did qatar.

I'd agree that'll probably be true. One big reason for that is likely there won't be the same issues to report on in the first place. Whatever opinions you might have about US foreign policy, the workers will have more rights and the citizens already do. Politics in the USA and Europe has become so deeply divided that anything, no matter how seemingly unimportant gets politicised beyond any reason. If the Biden, or Democrat administration is in power and America ****s something up with the World Cup, you will barely be able to avoid Conservative media outlets in the states going on about it, I'm sure the opposite is true also.

And it does of course depend on which media you follow. I've not followed the World Cup coverage that closely, but aside from acknowledging a few of the human rights issues (mostly around homosexuality), our state media, the BBC, didn't really dwell on it as far as I saw.

visiting a family in Nepal who lost their father building the stadiums.

I hope they kick off the USA wc by interviewing a family in flint Michigan.

The difference is what's going on in Flint is not the fault of the World Cup going to the USA, and ultimately the government is paying out damages (I'm not really following this story, but that's the last I heard). It's not (necessarily) government inflicted suffering, with no recourse, directly because of the World Cup... so why would people talk about it.
 
I bet you my bottom dollar that media won’t report the USA wc like they did qatar.

The pathetic Swedish ( by the way state owned ) channel kicked it all off by visiting a family in Nepal who lost their father building the stadiums.

After Saudi’s triumph against argentine they had invited a woman from Yemen to talk shit.

They didn’t show any b roll , nothing about the country of qatar in purpose.

I’ll bite off my leg if they give usa 1% of that treatment.

The hypocrisy is stunning these days.

I hope they kick off the USA wc by interviewing a family in flint Michigan.
I think the difference is that in Qatar you'd have been beheaded for discussing this already.
 
I think the difference is that in Qatar you'd have been beheaded for discussing this already.
No,

You are brainwashed.

Pretty sure the us justice system kills and f#cks up 1000x more lives than qatar.

And they don’t need to talk shit about their government, just Google the benefits and treatment of their own nationals. Far exceeded whatever you and I got. And I’m pretty sure they don’t want to give that all up for the privilege to run their mouths freely as we do in the west.
 
The largest mobilization of people in the history of Argentina waiting for the route of the selection bus.

More than 3 million on the streets, they don't even know which route to take because basically you can't go anywhere, it's even scary....
 
No,

You are brainwashed.

Pretty sure the us justice system kills and f#cks up 1000x more lives than qatar.

And they don’t need to talk shit about their government, just Google the benefits and treatment of their own nationals. Far exceeded whatever you and I got. And I’m pretty sure they don’t want to give that all up for the privilege to run their mouths freely as we do in the west.
Of course we are talking about 300,000 nationals and 2,600,000 migrants who live there, it is a different mass to handle, but I think that it is a model that works for them.

Perhaps doing the World Cup opened their eyes, they did it to open up to the world and I'm sure they learned and improved some things in the future, deep-rooted things.

A country without crime is remarkable, some will say that they exploit workers, others will say that they gave work to hundreds of thousands of very poor foreigners for years that in their countries they do not have a job, they lack many freedoms, but come on, the LGBTY community was persecuted everywhere in the world until just 4 or 5 years ago, I think the Arabs will know that they should start to improve things like that
 
Despite the rivalry, I was actually rooting for Argentina, because a victory for Argentina is a victory for Latin America.
 
Despite the rivalry, I was actually rooting for Argentina, because a victory for Argentina is a victory for Latin America.
Most importantly a victory for Argentina was a massive victory for Messi. ...The Who is the GOAT talks are now effectively over .
 
No,

You are brainwashed.

Pretty sure the us justice system kills and f#cks up 1000x more lives than qatar.

And they don’t need to talk shit about their government, just Google the benefits and treatment of their own nationals. Far exceeded whatever you and I got. And I’m pretty sure they don’t want to give that all up for the privilege to run their mouths freely as we do in the west.
Well if only we all had a million barrels of oil per person, then none of us would have to work, we could just get someone else to do it:

 
Well if only we all had a million barrels of oil per person, then none of us would have to work.
Good for them, 30 years ago they were just tribes scattered across a desert, very poor, and nobody cared about their ways of managing themselves, I think that each one gets ahead in their own way
 
More than 3 million on the streets
World Cup in Qatar 2022 has no limits. It is estimated that 5 million people poured into the streets to receive the Scaloneta and crowded to see his idols up close, including the captain, Lionel Messi.
 
Having worked and lived in Qatar for nearly 3 years and seeing the construction of the Metro and Stadiums for the WC, I tend to disagree with some of the comments in the press about the human rights abuse of migrant workers. Its law in Qatar and most Middle Eastern countries that workers have free Medical Insurance and care as well as labourers will have free safe accommodation and food, which is regularly checked by the Ministry of Labour and Health departments for quality etc. Any company caught with housing workers in unsafe and inhumane accommodation will be heavily fined by the Government. The Government has a rule that disallows any workers in Summer months to work under direct sunlight between 12pm and 3pm. If any company is forcing workers to work during these times under the sunlight they will receive heavy fines. Work will only be allowed in shaded areas during these times. Of course heat stress is a major issue to deal with, as workers need to have a rest period of at least 10min for every 30min worked during temperatures of over 40deg C and also plenty of drinking water with ice. Most construction companies are required to have HSE personal working at the site to monitor workers behaviour and provide a level of control for workers safety needs etc.
 
Having worked and lived in Qatar for nearly 3 years and seeing the construction of the Metro and Stadiums for the WC, I tend to disagree with some of the comments in the press about the human rights abuse of migrant workers. Its law in Qatar and most Middle Eastern countries that workers have free Medical Insurance and care as well as labourers will have free safe accommodation and food, which is regularly checked by the Ministry of Labour and Health departments for quality etc. Any company caught with housing workers in unsafe and inhumane accommodation will be heavily fined by the Government. The Government has a rule that disallows any workers in Summer months to work under direct sunlight between 12pm and 3pm. If any company is forcing workers to work during these times under the sunlight they will receive heavy fines. Work will only be allowed in shaded areas during these times. Of course heat stress is a major issue to deal with, as workers need to have a rest period of at least 10min for every 30min worked during temperatures of over 40deg C and also plenty of drinking water with ice. Most construction companies are required to have HSE personal working at the site to monitor workers behaviour and provide a level of control for workers safety needs etc.
Finally someone with insight rather than a couch professor.
 
What was bigoted about it?

Objectively there are reasons why Qatar doesn't make much sense, and that's quite well demonstrated by the fact it had to bribe FIFA to get the competition in the first place.

Even if you defend Qatar's human rights and democracy issues, choosing a country that has to spend hundreds of billions on infrastructure, and having to move the time of the tournament into the regular season to NOT risk player and spectator health, when that country doesn't really have much of its own footballing heritage or fan base - makes very little sense.

That doesn't mean they didn't do a good job, and I'm pleased they didn't have to put up with absolutely shameful displays of f#ck-wittery by complete bell-ends like this:

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The video implied that Qatar is a homophobic country.
 
The video implied that Qatar is a homophobic country.
Well, most Middle Eastern countries condemn homosexuality, some serious jail time and lashings if caught.
 
The video implied that Qatar is a homophobic country.
Ok so explain this to me.

If a country has a state religion, and that religion like Christianity prohibits homosexuality, where are they supposed to go from there?

Leave their beliefs to align with the modern world ? Do you understand how deeply routed the belief is in god for some people?

They should just for the sake of not being labeled homophobic just forgo all their beliefs ?

Similar to some priests in Sweden who agree to wed homosexual couples in the church…

Believe me I don’t want to keep any homosexuals from the wonders of marriage, but what kind of priest are you if you wed homosexual couples inside the church ?

Do you even understand the religion you claim to believe in / represent ?

Is everything up for debate now ? There are no set principles anymore ?
 
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Ok so explain this to me.

If a country has a state religion, and that religion like Christianity prohibits homosexuality, where are they supposed to go from there?

Leave their beliefs to align with the modern world ? Do you understand how deeply routed the belief is in god for some people?

They should just for the sake of not being labeled homophobic just forgo all their beliefs ?

Similar to some priests in Sweden who agree to wed homosexual couples in the church…

Believe me I don’t want to keep any homosexuals from the wonders of marriage, but what kind of priest are you if you wed homosexual couples inside the church ?

Do you even understand the religion you claim to believe in / represent ?

Is everything up for debate now ? There are no set principles anymore ?

Dude, all I said that was that the Infographics video implied that Qatar is a homophobic country, don't get mad at me. Get mad at the producers of that video. Go on and hit that dislike button on their video on Youtube.
 

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