911 (992) [Hot!] Porsche 911 GT3 RS (992 Series)
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The Porsche 992 is the eighth generation of the Porsche 911. Predecessor: Porsche 911 (991). Production: 2018–
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Could be true. R sort of thing.
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992.2 GT3 RS Facelift
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I see worrying signs that this car might have a very similar engine configuration as the new, single turbo GTS.
Why are they covering up the whole bumper like that? I think it's because there is a bulge in the bumper that points to a massive, side mounted single muffler.
And look at the vents above the diffusers. Again, the GTS has those too. Presumably to cool the aera around the catalytic converter and the particulate filter.
This last bit, I can't make sense of. There appear to be flaps inside the exhaust tips... Any ideas what this could be about?
Why are they covering up the whole bumper like that? I think it's because there is a bulge in the bumper that points to a massive, side mounted single muffler.
And look at the vents above the diffusers. Again, the GTS has those too. Presumably to cool the aera around the catalytic converter and the particulate filter.
This last bit, I can't make sense of. There appear to be flaps inside the exhaust tips... Any ideas what this could be about?
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Sports Exhaust flaps.
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Usually those kind of flaps are positioned right next to the muffler to bypass the gasses. This appears to be an entirely different concept. It just corks up the pipes.
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The 992.2 GT3 will use the NA 4.0 liter engine, not the GTS's hybrid engine.
They are covering the rear bumper to hide the updated design. Same reason they are covering the front bumper on this test car.
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Yeah you're right. I went to peer down my exhaust pipes expecting to see a visible flap or two but couldn't. So, not sure exactly what this is.
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Huh? There is nothing different on the front end on this car.
What makes you so sure? There's already rumors about the hybrid engine, as @mihc brought up. And how else would you explain the vents?
Well, yeah, that's the obvious reason. But here's the thing... Why would they need to camouflage slightly different facelift bumper this much, when they could just slap on the old part (just as they did on the front end). This is not like when 992.1 RS was coming up, where you needed to hide everything. To cover up a functional part, that has impact on aerodynamics, points out to significant changes under the bodywork. And the other hints only confirm this theory.
It might seem sad that we're about to lose the NA 4.0L, but the move makes so much sense if you stop to think about it. For Porsche project managers, this is the easiest decision in their life.
These cars are meant for track use and lap times. They already did everything they could to the platform, now it's time to get some serious power. If you want character, there's other models in the lineup that serve that desire way better than GT3 RS.
Look at it this way. The current RS has 520 PS at 130 PS/1L. The new GTS is just chilling with 485 PS and 135 PS/1L. Seeing these numbers next to each other should immediately spark thoughts about the potential that's on offer here.
For comparison, Turbo S has 650 PS and 173 PS/1L. There's so much more in this single turbo engine, before you even get to the hybrid part. 992.2 RS could easily have 610 PS on ICE at 170 PS/1L and it would still be far from stressed. Plus ~50 PS of electric boost.
And for all we know, the motor could have been conceived with GT3 RS in mind. GTS only gets it first to make the transition on the RS hurt less, now that we're all used to the concept.
The only thing that I can't quite see is where this leaves the GT2 RS.
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There is no front camo. You're right. I was thinking the image your referenced was from newer .2 GT3 spy shots. Those cars have updated front and rear bumpers.
The dealer rumor which he said he didn't believe?
These are prototype cars. Not all of the parts are production spec so fitment won't be perfect. It's possible that this test car is the .2 GT2 RS and not the .2 GT3 RS.
Every brand covers facelifted parts during testing and slowly removes camo as the cars gets closer to production spec. This is pretty standard.
First spy shots of the .2 GT3 had .1 front bumpers with camo covered .2 rears bumpers - https://www.evo.co.uk/porsche/911-g...t3-facelifted-9922-spied-cold-weather-testing
If you only care about power, why not go turbo hybrid water injection with nitro. It's not what the GT3 product line is about. The Turbo model already makes more power than the GT3 and no one is complaining.
At some point, I expect the GT3 to go turbo. Porsche will probably keep using GT3 label and reserve the GT2 for something else.
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A recent rumor was that it was a downsized NA engine in the realm of 3.6L. 
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Could say the same thing about you!
If it's turbo powered, it's going be labeled GT2. The next generation of 911 could be different.
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How am I doing that? I'm the one following clues that I see with my own eyes. You dismiss them.
If bunch of Porsche mechanics were to do a fun weekend project and stuff a 3.6L GTS engine in a GT3 RS, the resulting car would look exactly like that prototype. Tell me I'm wrong.
Notice how I never said that this car means that the 992.2 RS has to be that. It could literally be a one-off feasibility study of sorts. And if you were arguing in good faith, you would have acknowledged it as such. Instead I have to defend position I never claimed as my own. But f--k it, it is mine now.
This is Porsche Taycan Turbo S. I rest my case.
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I would be pretty surprised if the .2 GT3 and GT3RS were markedly different from the .1. It's gonna be basically the same as the .1, save for the "improved" interior and some tweaks here and there. In fact, it's probably gonna be the least difference from .1 to .2 that we've ever seen.
Bigger changes - 3.6L hybrid without a turbo would be my guess - only in the next generation.
Bigger changes - 3.6L hybrid without a turbo would be my guess - only in the next generation.
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Porsche is not going to switch the GT3/GT3 RS to a turbo engine for this .2 update.
They have been testing a .1 GT3 RS with a turbo engine but that is the .2 GT2 RS. Here is a video:
There are no clues that point to this scenario. It's technically possible but so is Porsche testing a rotary engine for the .2 GT3 RS.
We're in a GT3RS thread! In the last paragraph, you're claiming that this is a fun weekend project for Porsche engineers and now it's a feasibility study...
Go read my original comment. All I said was that the .2 GT3 RS would not use a turbo.
Ok....Porsche still isn't going to put a turbo engine in the .2 GT3.This is Porsche Taycan Turbo S. I rest my case.
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