911 (991) Porsche 911 (991) - First Drives/Test Thread
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The Porsche 991 is the seventh generation of the Porsche 911 sports car, produced from September 2011 to December 2019. It was unveiled at the 2011 Frankfurt Motor Show on 15 September as the replacement for the 997. Production: September 2011 – December 2019.
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I applause Nissan for continually improving the GTR. The only thing is dislike about it is the snap over steer tendencies that I cannot get to grips with when I drive the car. Sure I manage to wrestle the car through corners but I am never 100% comfortable with the turn-ins.
And oh this is in Real Racing HD 2
And oh this is in Real Racing HD 2
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Drats, beat me to it soup.
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AutoZeitung FIRST TEST - Porsche 911 Carrera PDK Cabriolet
First test with a few performance numbers, full results will be available with next issue's SL vs. 911-comparison.
You can feel the power-deficit of 50 hp compared to the Carrera S, the PDK shift back 1-2 gears very often, even on the slightest uphill. Acceleration is far behind the 911 Carrera S PDK Coupé, it is also much slower than the Carrera PDK Coupé tested by Italian Auto recently. Ceramic brakes are brutal.
First test with a few performance numbers, full results will be available with next issue's SL vs. 911-comparison.
- Equipment: PCCB, PDK, Sport Chrono, PASM
- Weight: 1535 kg (Carrera PDK: 1497 kg)
- 0-100 km/h: 4,8 s (Carrera PDK: 4,3 s)
- 0-180 km/h: 13,9 s (Carrera PDK: 11,8 s)
- Vmax.: 284 km/h
- Braking 100-0 km/h, cold/warm: 32,9 m/32,8 m
- Average fuel consumption: 10,3 l/100 km
You can feel the power-deficit of 50 hp compared to the Carrera S, the PDK shift back 1-2 gears very often, even on the slightest uphill. Acceleration is far behind the 911 Carrera S PDK Coupé, it is also much slower than the Carrera PDK Coupé tested by Italian Auto recently. Ceramic brakes are brutal.
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Never, ever. Entry level 911 cabrio is still faster than E93 M3. Plenty of power....
tristatez28lt1
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MotorTrend Review of the 2012 Carrera S Cabriolet:
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/convertibles/1205_2012_porsche_911_carrera_s_cabriolet_first_test/
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/convertibles/1205_2012_porsche_911_carrera_s_cabriolet_first_test/
Let's get the worst thing about the new 2012 Porsche 911 Carrera S Cabriolet out of the way: Its proximity key sensor doesn't work that well. That's a petty complaint, but it's the only complaint I had after logging a few hundred miles with the top down, in both rain and beautiful sunshine.
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What's so frustrating about it? When you wrap your hand around the 911 Cab's door handle, the car unlocks, but then you have to wait a few seconds after plopping in the driver's seat to start the car, or else one of the gauges will flash, "Key not recognized." That's odd, because the car unlocks when you approach it, clearly understanding that the key is in its vicinity. Even odder, I found the quickest way to get the key recognized was to hip thrust in the direction of the steering wheel while twisting the faux key. That faux key, remember, remains on the left side of the steering wheel, where Porsche has famously left it all these years because it was quicker to start the car that way in a Le Mans race. Waiting for the key to be recognized, then, seems like a glaring oversight.
With that out of the way, let's be clear: The rest of the 911 Carrera S Cabriolet is fabulous. Fabulous in a way that makes you think, "Yeah, I'd be satisfied with this for a long time." Fabulous in a way that makes you make grand statements that you'll probably regret later, like: This is one of the best sports cars on the market right now.
Consider that, despite weighing 228 pounds more than the hardtop Carrera S, the Cabriolet is only negligibly slower. A figure-eight lap requires 24.3 seconds (0.2 second slower) and generates a 1.03 lateral g average, which ties the hardtop. The Cabriolet takes 0.1 second longer to reach 60 mph and the quarter mile (3.8 seconds and 12.1 seconds at 116 mph, respectively). The 911 remains, then, the only production car we've tested that, with 400 horsepower or less, can reach 60 mph in fewer than 4 seconds. Much of this performance we can attribute to the latest version of Porsche's seven-speed twin clutch (the oh-so elegantly titled Porsche Doppelkupplungsgetriebe, or PDK). Launch control and its instantaneous shifts (with perfect rev matching) are great for test numbers, but PDK also offers drivers better flexibility and control over twisty mountain roads.
On mountain roads, the Carrera S is an encouraging car, such that the idea of driving it top-down in the rain seems smart. It's something beyond the sum of 400 horsepower, superlative grip, and an exhaust that barks and burbles so sweetly. It's more than the roof, which, at speeds up to 31 mph, retracts in 13 seconds. It's more than the electric steering, which disappointingly lacks the liveliness and feedback of Porsches past, but remains as precise as ever. (Attention, Porsche: Please address this.)
It's also more than Porsche Torque Vectoring, a dubiously titled feature that uses the rear brakes to limit torque delivery. During a left-hand turn, for example, the 911 applies braking pressure to the left wheel, limiting torque there and dragging the car around the corner. The process is largely unnoticeable, and gives the 911 its constant and welcome neutrality, a sense that the chassis will never betray you. (Power sliding is still possible, but takes some determination).
It's the sum of all these pieces that makes the 911 so special. And we haven't even talked about fuel economy. You might ask, "Why would you? Who cares?" Customers of this car will, and not because it returns a front-pack 19/27 mpg city/highway, but because the 911 has stop-start, which occasionally turns the engine off at stoplights. That feature can lead to interesting conversations, like the following one I had with a woman who was on a bicycle. "That's a quiet idle," she said. "Oh, it turns off when you stop." I answered. She looked and didn't say anything. I waited a beat. "To save fuel," I slowly added. "Oh, it's a hybrid?" she asked. "No, no, no," I gushed, but then the light turned green.
I'd have explained more, lady, but there was open road to explore.
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