GLE (W167) [Official] Mercedes-Benz GLE (W167)

[klier]

Much of this talk belongs in Internal Combustion

If cost cutting was the primary driver behind the design it entire transmission tunnel would look very different. See the Cayenne as an example.

In the Porsche handles don't have aluminuim trim, are not covered by leather that extends...

Love how you bring everything as a fact, while it could just as well be complete BS what you talk about.

Show me one company that won't cut back on cost?

If a company didn't cut back on cost it would be at a loss.

Anyways I find this about Mercedes or the GLE being cost saving due to it having a straight screen or a nice clean straigh...

What are you on about? A Mercedes in the past had a unique interior developed for that car alone. Nowadays it's all interchangeable in a Merc. And not just the electronics, the actual parts just to make the interior are in many cases coming from the very same production line, like the whole center console of the EQC for example.
For this center console in the GLE I don't know, but it looks poor anyways....

 

[Centurion]

A Mercedes in the past had a unique interior developed for that car alone. Nowadays it's all interchangeable in a Merc.

The GLE is unique. The interior design and layout different from the E-Class and even G-Class.

Nowadays it's all interchangeable in a Merc. And not just the electronics, the actual parts just to make the interior are in many cases coming from the very same production line, like the whole center console of the EQC for example.

If you think Mercedes is bad then look at BMW.

The central new air vents and HVAC controls are a single identical unit that will be used in the new 8-Series, 3-Series, X5, X7, X6, Z4 and new 1-Series. The same is true for the entire gear selector unit.

At Audi, the A6, A8, Q7 and Q8 use the center console stack with two air vents above.

 

[tomazino]

The central new air vents and HVAC controls are a single identical unit that will be used in the new 8-Series,3-Series,X5, X7, X6, Z4 and new 1-Series. The same is true for the entire gear selector unit.

At least, it looks very good...pardon.....extremely good!

 

[fortuner]

Much of this talk belongs in Internal Combustion


Love how you bring everything as a fact, while it could just as well be complete BS what you talk about.



What are you on about? A Mercedes in the past had a unique interior developed f...

Which company has a unique interior?

I think the GLE is more unique interior compared to the sedans in Mercedes Range which in itself is a difference compared to other brands.

What's different in the BMW or Audi in terms of the the X5 and 8 have almost a same interior atleast Mercedes SUV and Sports cars have a different interior..

Anywyas my point is more about the design where people are saying Mercedes are designing a centre console in This Way as a cost cutting my point is that that is how MB designs have always been..

I was not even discussing parts sharing that is another subject from What I was discussing or replying..

Yes Mercedes are part sharing their is no doubt at the same time show me one German company who does not ?

 

[klier]

The GLE is unique. The interior design and layout different from the E-Class and even G-Class.

For now. It will share it's entire interior with the GLS. Also bro, really no need to state obvious things, I am not blind.

If you think Mercedes is bad then look at BMW.

The central new air vents and HVAC controls are a single identical unit that will be use...

You're missing my point, or you should learn how to read. I already mentioned the electronics, and obviously the switchgear belongs in that category.
Switchgear and electronics being the same in every BMW is something they pretty much invented and what the whole premium industry copied.

I was obviously talking about how MB manages to put a whole car interior together with parts from other cars. BMW and Audi don't do that. Sorry.

At least, it looks very good...pardon.....extremely good!

And the only BMW which had a different iDrive knob was the E65 7er. Ever since the E60 5er, the main electronics in every BMW are the same. It's part of BMW's charm and genius, copied by the whole industry of course.

I love talking about BMW in a Mercedes thread. Particularly when the MB fanboys constantly bring up BMW.

 

[Centurion]

You're missing my point, or you should learn how to read. I already mentioned the electronics, and obviously the switchgear belongs in that category.

Switchgear and electronics being the same in every BMW is something they pretty much invented and what the whole premium industry copied.

I was obviously talking about how MB manages to put a whole car interior together with parts from other cars. BMW and Audi don't do that.

Your last paragraph completely contradict the first two.

At least, it looks very good...pardon.....extremely good!

It's the F30 interior recycled with new button designs and a few new contours here and there. The HVAC buttons in the 8-Series don't even feel good. Those in the much cheaper Lexus UX feel more upscale.

 

[hovabongZA]

At least, it looks very good...pardon.....extremely good!

It’s perfect.

 

[klier]

Your last paragraph completely contradict the first two.

Oh really?

It's the F30 interior recycled with new button designs and a few new contours here and there. The HVAC buttons in the 8-Series don't even feel good. Those in the much cheaper...

Take off your gloves next time will you?

 

[Grosser]

It doesn't matter if BMW shares parts from different cars cuz most of BMW interiors are the same. That's why 7er IMHO doesn't feel special and that's why it will get extensive facelift.

 

[klier]

It doesn't matter if BMW shares parts from different cars cuz most of BMW interiors are the same. That's why 7er IMHO doesn't feel special and that's why it will get extensive facelift.

Looking same-ish and actually being the same is a world of difference.

 

[Srbb]

Mercedes became the most profitable/valuable company in the world

 

[martinbo]

I agree, it does look very symmetrical and attractive, but as @martinbo once pointed out - maybe it’s desinged this way in order to cut back on costs as this one layout could be used in both RHD and LHD vehicles[/Q...

Comments like this don't add value to the discussion. I want to make it very clear that being cost-effective does not mean to cut back on costs. The latter has a negative implication such as a reduction in quality or usability. I am not suggesting this in the slightest! I am trying to get people to understand that different manufacturers have different ethoses and approaches to the needs of their customers - i.e. the drivers of their products. Mercedes Benz can only be commended for the level of standardisation strategy around user interface, driver environment and hardware componentry.

That such an approach is beneficial for multiple business facets should come as no surprise to anyone here. And, of course, BMW too will pursue standardisation to its maximum as long as ethos and values aren't compromised. No Mercedes Benz values are compromised in their approach; one centre console (sans gearlever) irrespective of LHD or RHD is an entirely logical strategy. BMW elect not to pursue this exact approach because they choose to give their drivers a console-mounted gearlever placed within optimal reach. Now, the merits of the various schools of thought are not up for discussion here as they've been debated ad nauseam elsewhere on this forum. The only thing to acknowledge is that BMW will have a different control module (the gearlever, drive modes etc) on the transmission tunnel console for RHD vs LHD and Mercedes Benz won't. From a cost-effectiveness perspective, this is clearly to Mercedes Benz's advantage in terms of the following: one material code instead of two; more standardised Bills of Materials management; simpler Material Requirements Planning (MRP). In basic terms demand for such componentry need not be split between RHD and LHD models when ordering on suppliers; this then has a positive knock-on effect as suppliers are able to offer better pricing (volume-based) due to their own benefits in simplified sourcing and production planning. It's a win-win for Mercedes and their suppliers.

Interesting, I somehow thought they would use a different piece of hardware in the A, E, GLE and for sure S. So you are saying it is the same one - in all three? Sure that would be cost saving if the quality was the same in the S as the A. But if it is expensive if the quality is the same in the A as the S! Ha ha...

Or are you saying that the A and the GLE are the same, both being MBUX, and same hardware?

If you see two posts down from mine that you've quoted, you will notice that I don't mention all Mercedes models in one go. I keep it to E-Classes, GLE, G and CLS regarding the use of the dual display screen unit as supplied by Continental. The A-Class' dual display is of the 10.25" variety in its highest spec whereas the GLE et al's top-end version is 12.3" [quoting from memory, I don't have time to double-check]. I hazard to guess that the same dual screen unit may even be implemented in the S-Class. Clearly then, it's not the same SKU for an A-Class versus an S-Class because the actual display (and hence housing) sizes differ and therefore different Material numbers in their Material Master. But it's also logical to deduce that the underlying electronic componentry and operating system (MBUX) are designed with inter-usability in mind whilst being flexible enough to handle the differing amount of display real estate.

 

[Srbb]

The Mercedes GLE MBUX i heard it is using the A12 Bionic chip while the A class mbux is using nvidia

 

[martinbo]

The Mercedes GLE MBUX i heard it is using the A12 Bionic chip while the A class mbux is using nvidia

I'd like to know where you've heard this from / can provide supporting info. I'm very interested in this. According to IHS Teardown this is the summarised make-up of the E-Class' dual display:

Teardown Highlights

• 2x LG 12.3" Display for Instrument Cluster / Center Stack Display
• Tempered Glass Overlay
• 2x Continental Private Labeled ASIC; NXP IMX6D Apps Processor
• Deep Drawn / Stamped Aluminum Rear Enclosur

Teardown Continental 2017 Mercedes Benz E Class 12_3 IC and 12_3 CSD - IHS Technology

Why would it be any different for E-Class vs CLS vs G vs GLE?

Now, it would be fantastic if our industry-connected members could inform further please.

 

[Grosser]

Looking same-ish and actually being the same is a world of difference.

Yes, and I see BMW had different interiors for every car, now X1/X2, X3/X4, have the same and probably X5 and X7 will have the same interiors (don't quote me for X5/X7 part).

Why would it be any different for E-Class vsCLS vs G vs GLE?

Can you find info about A class ? I know GLE and E have same size screens but E class screen is not touch sensitive.

 

[martinbo]

Can you find info about A class ? I know GLE and E have...

I haven't been able - time permitting - to find anything more about the A-Class. Interesting point about the GLE being touch screen vs E-Class not. I forgot to consider this.

 

[Deleted member 52969]

AMG versions coming later, will be on my IG.

 

[klier]

Yes, and I see BMW had different interiors for every car, now X1/X2, X3/X4, have the same and probably X5 and X7 will have the same interiors (don't quote me for X5/X7 part).

They still do.

X1/2 = same car
X3/4 = same car
X5/6/7 = same car
3er/4er = same car
1er/2er coupe = same car

 

[Rolf]

what are you on about? A Mercedes in the past had a unique interior developed f...

if you look closely at older Mercs interiors, W126, W201 and W124 all shared switches, HVAC controls, light switches and many other parts in the interior and a similar but slightly different design dash. This was the same with BMW models at the time, the E30, E32 and E34 all had similar looking driver slanted dashes with very much the same shaped swivel vents and shared switches.

 

[martinbo]

Oh sweet mother of mercy. I've only put 2 and 2 together now. A.D. is...