GLE (W167) [Official] Mercedes-Benz GLE (W167)

[MercFan]

Why are most of the 'official' GLE photos such low resolution?

When I want a high resolution photo of Mercedes, I go on media.daimler.com site. There you can find some huge official photos.

 

[Centurion]

Totally disagree. The single-unit "conjoined" component has been designed and implemented as such foremost for the purposes of cost-effectiveness. Think about how futuristic the concept is - not just in technology - but in the areas of cost-saving primarily.

Whether cost saving was the primary or secondary reasoning for the screen setup is something Mercedes would have to tell us. Irrespectively, the uniform screen sizes makes panning from one to the other very natural, the same way you would if you use an identical dual monitor setup at work place.

Imagine if one of your desktop screens was shaped like a pentagon had a hood on it and the other screen was shaped like a square, and both screens not touching.

In recent Audi cars, the instrument cluster and infotainment screen are even more segregated despite the close interplay of whether a map is displayed on the digital cockpit or the infotainment screen.

Dashboards have been ripe for disruption and Mercedes direction is a sensible step between the past and the extreme future that is the Model 3 interior.

 

[fortuner]

Totally disagree. The single-unit "conjoined" component has been designed and implemented as such foremost for the purposes of cost-effectiveness. Think about how futuristic the concept is - not just in technology - but in the areas of cost-saving primarily. This "hardware unit" can be ubiquitously applied irrespective of model and LHD vs RHD orientation...

I don't agree that becuase Mercedes has gone for a clean straight screen it's cost saving.

I think it's a clean design element and it works very well in day to day driving I am sure people like @Mick Briesgau And other members who have the new E or S will conquer that it's very nice to use and easy to view and beautifully designed.

Regarding control console Mercedes has mostly I would say 95 percent of their interiors have been made all down history being in the centre and not orientated towards the driver this is not a cost saving it's a design philosophy of Mercedes and has been for over 60 or more years so just becuase BMW goes driver oriented or prefer that Merecedes is now cost saving ..

Sorry i dont agree with either comment.

Also I agree with @Centurion their is nothing ground breaking in the X5 interior as some of you are going on about it's basically a evolotion of same design for last 10 to 15 years being taken forward..I like the x5 interior but it's nothing ground-breaking or exciting as some are making it out to be..Atleast with the GLE we can say it's way ahead of the previous Generation and is a very nice clean elegant design.

These are my opinions.

 

[fortuner]

Oh @fortuner - I am dying to know what I've posted you disagree with.

Please read my post you don't need to die we still need you on here...

 

[martinbo]

I have to say - I'm most bemused by the lack of appreciation of basic product costing in terms of re-usability, economies of scale, standardisation. I might not be an expert on all things automotive but one thing I really, really know is supply chain, product costing and manufacturing. It's how I make a living: implementing business management solutions for my entire career. And I know clever, cost-effective engineering when I see it. But if people aren't able to visualise the cost-benefits of a single-piece component which can be bought in greater volumes and applied irrespective of where the steering wheels sits then, sorry, nothing more I can do here.

 

[fortuner]

I have to say - I'm most bemused by the lack of appreciation of basic product costing in terms of re-usability, economies of scale, standardisation. I might not be an expert on all things automotive but one thing I really, really know is supply chain, product costing and manufacturing. It's how I make a living: implementing business management solutions...

@martinbo you are a Moderater of this site with due respect why don't you create a separate thread on this subject instead of spoiling the thread of the New GLE.

I am sure your brand BMW are guilty if the same product or part sharing and supply chain costing so make a new thread and people can discuss it their.

 

[martinbo]

@martinbo you are a Moderater of this site with due respect why don't you create a separate thread on this subject instead of spoiling the thread of the New GLE.

I am sure your brand BMW are guilty if the same product or part sharing and supply chain costing so make a new thread and people can discuss it their.

I beg your pardon? Just who exactly are you to prescribe the discussion here? We've entered into a legitimate, on-topic conversation about Mercedes Benz's approach to how hardware is applied in the new W167 which stemmed from others naturally comparing the GLE to its nearest competitor. Now we're getting into the intellectual part of the appraisal and you want me to take the discussion elsewhere? I am surprised by your lack of maturity. What else do you think this world-class forum is founded upon? Nevermind, I'll tell you: it's intelligent, mature discussion and debate. Welcome to 2005.

 

[fortuner]

I beg your pardon? Just who exactly are you to prescribe the discussion here? We've entered into a legitimate, on-topic conversation about Mercedes Benz's approach to how hardware is applied in the new W167 which stemmed from others naturally comparing the GLE to its nearest competitor. Now we're getting into the intellectual part of the appraisal and yo...

Oh please just becuase you a Mod no need to be over smart

If i am immature for you why reply me or engage in debate with me .

Just becuase your a a mod don't come get personal with me please .

Nowhere in any of my comments did I say anything about you or your levels of intellect and maturity this is a pathetic statement by a senior member of this site.

Very poor behaviour for a person who his a Moderator to give a normal member personal attacks when all my posts I said was my personell opinion and didn't say anything personal about you.

Shameful

 

[martinbo]

Oh please just becuase you a Mod no need to be over smart

If i am immature for you why reply me or engage in debate with me .

Just becuase your a a mod don't come get personal with me please .

Nowhere in any of my comments did I say anything about you or your levels of intellect and maturity this is a pathetic statement by a senior member of this s...

The only thing pathetic here is how you're conducting yourself when placed under scrutiny.
You started down this path and provided not one piece of factual rebuttal. Instead you dish out ratings because you're unable to separate solid objective discussion from fanboy sentiment.
So, yes, for my sins, I am a moderator here, have been for decades, will still be and it's times like this that the community needs to appreciate the importance of mature automotive-related discussion.

Oh and just to be very clear - the only personal criticism I levelled at you was that I was surprised by your lack of maturity in being able to engage in meaningful discussion.

 

[fortuner]

The only thing pathetic here is how you're conducting yourself when placed under scrutiny.
You started down this path and provided not one piece of factual rebuttal. Instead you dish out ratings because you're unable to separate solid objective discussion from fanboy sentiment.
So, yes, for my sins, I am a moderator here, have been for decades, will stil...

You should rather worry of your own maturity

What fact did you state by saying Mercedes made the screen one piece is a cost saving exercise have you anything to prove this.

You unhappy because I disagreed with your post which i am entitled to I don't need to agree to your post if I don't.

So becuase your can't stand me not liking your post which is my own opinion you get all personal yes that's pathetic

 

[fortuner]

Totally disagree. The single-unit "conjoined" component has been designed and implemented as such foremost for the purposes of cost-effectiveness. Think about how futuristic the concept is - not just in technology - but in the areas of cost-saving primarily. This "hardware unit" can be ubiquitously applied irrespective of model and LHD vs RHD orientation...

Can you show me what fact you have posted in this post which I disliked or disagree with and ehich turned you to get all personal.

You have posted no fact you replied to @Centurion with your opinion their is zero fact or anything you can show from market analysis that proves Mercedes choose the design the way they do.

 

[Busty]

Best I've seen of the interior look thus far.

Agreed. This is how it's got to be. Still far from perfect, imo, but very good.

Disagree. The standard version looks great. The sport just takes it to a higher level.

What are you guys referring to when speaking of the 'standard' version? It's hardly standard in those pics as the vehicle is, for instance, equipped with the biggest possible non-AMG wheels and multibeams. So this is not standard but non-AMG. When members in here wonder about how the basic version might look, it does not make sense to point to that fully-equipped example.

When it comes to usability, I do not fully share the enthusiasm regarding MBUX and the panel screen solution MB applies. Everyday users of a certain HMI solution are often not the best candidates to evaluate their own systems. I've conducted endless driving tests and driving clinics with, for instance, Tesla drivers and, even though more or less 100% of them claim that their HMI solution is perfect for them and they feel very secure with it, objective markers (such as eye-tracking) paint a different picture. The same is - to a lot minor degree - true for the first MBUX data and the MB screen layout. MBUX is impressive in terms of resolution, contrast, interaction speed, and information depth. Voice control works fine. There is virtually nothing you can't do. But: Most of these aspects are particularly fascinating when you're not moving. Zooming in and out of maps is cool and informative for the passenger but not for the one steering through some crowded city centre. The art of automotive HMI is also in reduction, ease of learning, and facilitation of choices. In most cases, you only need very little info to reach your goal, be it the choice of a particular route, a particular contact, or a particular album. This is the HMI aspect where the latest iDrive is still more or less the optimum, at least based on cold, hard facts. Least distraction, quickest problem solving, steepest learning curve.
The MB layout was not chosen to improve usability but for two other reasons: a) costs, not only for required hardware but also for updates during the cycle. They even had the (theoretical) chance to increase the screen size without further changes to the dash. b) styling: since they more or less position the screens in front of the dash, they can reduce visual bulk and depth towards the wind shield. This makes the interior feel more lofty and allows designers more wiggle room.

 

[Serpens]

Is there anything tech wise that the BMW has the MB doesn’t and vice versa?

They seem pretty evenly matched, although Mercedes has a more trick suspension. We'll see if that actually matters in the road tests. I think the BMW will be tuned to be more athletic than a non-AMG GLE regardless.

 

[deity]

So...why is it not possible that the single-screen is both a cost-saving measure and an ergonomic improvement? The two don't have to be mutually exclusive.

 

[tennmb]

Whether cost saving was the primary or secondary reasoning for the screen setup is something Mercedes would have to tell us. Irrespectively, the uniform screen sizes makes panning from one to the other very natural, the same way you would if you use an identical dual monitor setup at work place.

Imagine if one of your desktop screens was shaped like a...

The complaints are bogus as the new C is using the same format Audi is. We just got our first C coupe and it has the digital instrument cluster and the large center monitor. It's fine. Looks great and the option is super cheap. I was shocked actually, although i like analog gauges. MBUX was designed seperately and they went with the fused, continuous dual screen, likely because it was hugely popular on the S and E. It is an impressive look. Cost saving is at best speculative, because i'd imagine the integrated dual screen is not any less expensive. I would suspect more as you have to have a very large piece of high quality glass that is touch screen friendly that spans a large area.

 

[tennmb]

Agreed. This is how it's got to be. Still far from perfect, imo, but very good.



What are you guys referring to when speaking of the 'standard' version? It's hardly standard in those pics as the vehicle is, for instance, equipped with the biggest possible non-AMG wheels and multibeams. So this is not standard but non-AMG. When members in here wonder ab...

I'm talking about the trim and bumper covers. We'll have to see what the standard headlamp assembly will look like. I suspect, in the US we will not see a difference. But, if the standard follows the path of the E or even the knew C then you are clamouring over a nothing burger.

Beyond that, I've worked for Benz for 20 years and since I haven't used MBUX and you haven't either, you shouldn't poo poo before you actually use it. I have watched a lot of video and I can't see anything that isn't a massive improvement over COMAND. Looks to integrate touch pads on the steering wheel.
If you prefer the awful pop up screen in the Audi then more power to you. It sounds like you are looking for reasons to not like.

 

[Serpens]

Beyond that, I've worked for Benz for 20 years and since I haven't used MBUX and you haven't either, you shouldn't poo poo before you actually use it. I have watched a lot of video and I can't see anything that isn't a massive improvement over COMAND. Looks to integrate touch pads on the steering wheel.
If you prefer the awful pop up screen in the Audi then more power to you. It sounds like you are looking for reasons to not like.

Busty works in this space and has probably already had exposure to MBUX.

 

[Busty]

I'm talking about the trim and bumper covers. We'll have to see what the standard headlamp assembly will look like. I suspect, in the US we will not see a difference. But, if the standard follows the path of the E or even the knew C then you are clamouring over a nothing burger.

Beyond that, I've worked for Benz for 20 years and since I haven't used MBUX and you haven't either, you shouldn't poo poo before you actually use it. I have watched a lot of video and I can't see anything that isn't a massive improvement over COMAND. Looks to integrate touch pads on the steering wheel.
If you prefer the awful pop up screen in the Audi then more power to you. It sounds like you are looking for reasons to not like.

"poo poo"? Seriously?

Even though your response is somehow impolite and suggests that you did not even read properly, I'm gonna respell it to you because it is really important to me to only post substantial info and not just guesses, speculations, or personal opinion. If I do, I clearly stress it. So: I was involved in the development of MBUX, tested it, and am currently in the process of doing so (our testers are new A classes but we have also seen other models using it, as well). In the field of automotive HMI, there is more or less constant benchmarking among the big OEMs. Those tests (both static and dynamic) are mostly outsourced to specialized service providers or market research institutes.

 

[martinbo]

I would very much like for people to make the distinction between being cost-effective and making cost-savings. Cost saving implies a reduction in costs and possibly a diminishment in quality, whereas cost-effectiveness need not mean a drop in quality. Clearly, Mercedes Benz have implemented a cost-effective approach to mitigating the need for disparate interior components between RHD and LHD vehicles. I think it's rather clever. But hey...

 

[CeSClaudiu]

I want to see this in full black exterior !!