GLE (W167) [Official] Mercedes-Benz GLE (W167)

[Rolf]

Cost cutting galore... No more footwell net pocket? That has been a staple for MBs for as long as I can remember...

What companies are seeing is that why spend on quality and certain features when Tesla can sell cars with poor quality. It's a shame.

They eliminated more things than adding anything beneficial and definitely smacks of cost cutting. I wonder what leather trim will be available as so many trims have been eliminated

 

[Mr. Mercedes]

@Wolfgang is there a reason the parallel parking function has been removed from the GLE and GLS?

 

[Wolfgang]

^ Different EU/UN certification requirements. May return in new models with new hardware. In the meantime Parktronic is still available.

 

[Wolfgang]

350 D VARIANT WITH OM 656 IN GLE & GLS ENDS IN 2021

In the coming model year, Mercedes-Benz is expected to remove the 350 d variant of the OM 656 in-line six-cylinder diesel engine from its range. This applies to the GLE 350 d 4MATIC as SUV and coupé, as well as the GLS in its GLS 350 d 4MATIC variant. The 330 hp of the 400 d 4MATIC remain in the portfolio.

OM 656 as 400 d 4MATIC is retained

The 272 PS variant of the OM 656 will be omitted from the engine portfolio as the 350 d 4MATIC from the next model year of the GLE SUV as well as the Coupé and the GLS of the 167 series. As a 6-cylinder alternative in the diesel engine range, the only option left is the 400 d 4MATIC variant with 243 kW / 330 PS.

OM 654 M as GLE 300 d 4MATIC conceivable in the future

As a replacement engine for the smaller 6-cylinder variant of the 350 d, we could also imagine the new 4-cylinder variant OM 654 M with ISG as GLE / GLS 300 d 4MATIC, which would replace the previous 300 d 4MATIC version with OM 654 (D20 G SCR) with 245 HP.

OM 656 M under development

The new electrified variant of the OM 654 as the 300 d 4MATIC has an output of 195 kW / 265 hp in the E-Class with an additional 15 kW / 20 hp EQ Boost. Compared to the normal OM 654 variant, the displacement has been increased by 43 cubic centimeters (to 1,993 cubic centimeters) and a new crankshaft has been installed.

It is no secret, however, that Mercedes-Benz would like to further electrify the entire range of engines. As a result, a 6-cylinder OM 656 M variant with EQ Boost is already in development, but we have no information about its series use so far.

 

[Rolf]

I had a suspicion Mercedes would start removing the 350d engine from its models GLE, GLS, E-class, CLS as the newer E300d with OM654 M and EQ-boost produces almost the same power and slightly less torque but has the addition of the EQ-boost and also is lighter and more efficient than the inline 6 but for refinement and noise is worst off. I don't think think this 4-cylinder will replace the E350d motor in the S350 though.

 

[Wolfgang]

THE GLE 300 D ENGINE AS AN SUV MAY END IN 2021

The previous Mercedes-Benz GLE 300 d 4MATIC variant will end in the coming 802 model year. The next model year should be available for order from the beginning of June 2021 and will be produced from around August 2021.

Do you replace the OM 654 as the GLE 300 d 4MATIC with an electrified variant?

While the (previous) variant of the 300 d 4MATIC in the GLE SUV ( V 167 ) is being phased out in 2021, the OM 654 M with ISG could be offered as a replacement motor in the future.

Even if we do not yet have any information on this, the changeover would be more than conceivable in order to close the gap, also due to the elimination of the smaller 6-cylinder diesel variant of the GLE 350 d 4MATIC.

OM 654 M with 195 kW / 265 PS with an additional 15 kW / 20 PS EQ Boost

The electrified variant of the OM 654 as the 300 d 4MATIC has so far developed 195 kW / 265 hp in the E-Class with an additional 15 kW / 20 hp EQ Boost. Compared to the normal OM 654 variant, the displacement of the OM 654 M is 43 cubic centimeters larger - to 1,993 cubic centimeters. A new crankshaft is also used in the OM 654 M.

 

[Rolf]

Strange they are eliminating both GLE300d and GLE350d models. Will both be replaced by the GLE300d with 195kw (incl 15kw EQ boost) engine? Or GLE350de (hybrid) to replace 350d model?

 

[Wolfgang]

^ Perhaps. The GLE 350 de may be pretty popular.

 

[Grosser]

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[Wolfgang]

MERCEDES USES HEAD-UP DISPLAYS FROM NIPPON SEIKI

The use of head-up displays allows the driver to continue to see the road and avoid flying blind. For the necessary technology, Mercedes-Benz uses the systems from the Japanese supplier Nippon Seiki.

Head-up displays from Nippon Seiki

The Japanese automotive supplier Nippon Seiki is a world leader in the development and production of head-up displays. Mercedes-Benz uses the innovative Head Up Displays in the Mercedes-Benz GLE and GLS. For this purpose, a 45 x 15 cm, full-color image is blended into the windshield using a lens and mirror system. It seems to hover over the hood of the car at a distance of three meters in front of the driver. The display offers space for further information, including the current audio source, information on the active call and the reception and battery status of the connected phone. In addition, arrival time and distance to the destination are displayed there, provided that route guidance is active. The driver can select the information relevant to him, including additional off-road content such as vehicle inclination,

S-Class HUD sets new standards

In the new S-Class, the HUD generates the largest virtual image that has ever been generated by a HUD. With a projection distance of 10 meters instead of the usual 2-3, new standards have been set here. Built for this: The largest mirror ever built into an automotive HUD. For the image generation in action: a specially developed digital projector. This technology is also used in cinema projectors and is required in order to be able to generate an image of the required size. The LCDs used in conventional HUDs would reach their limits here.

HUD development since 1984

“Nippon Seiki” means “Japanese precision equipment” in translation. The Japanese company was founded in 1946 - a year after World War II. Since resources were scarce at the time, the goal was to produce precision devices with the least possible use of materials. In 1947 components for motorcycle speedometers were developed for the first time, where the entire device was already being produced at that time. Later Nippon Seiki developed its first complete speedometer. The first instrument cluster for cars was produced in 1960.

The development of head-up displays began in 1984. Around this time, safety technologies such as the first airbags moved into the focus of car development, as did the use of HUDs as a preventive safety measure. Series production of the first HUD started in 1997. The Nippon Seiki portfolio today includes: sensors, display instruments for cars and motorcycles, and head-up displays. Nippon Seiki employs around 14,500 people at 35 locations in 12 countries.

 

[Centurion]

Am I the only one who gets nauseous or eye strain from HUDs?

 

[lukeswiss]

Cost cutting galore... No more footwell net pocket? That has been a staple for MBs for as long as I can remember...

What companies are seeing is that why spend on quality and certain features when Tesla can sell cars with poor quality. It's a shame.

This is missing in our G - and I find it ridiculous. That was always something very useful. It’s not even an option.

 

[Wolfgang]

Am I the only one who gets nauseous or eye strain from HUDs?

Probably not.

Bharat Balasubramanian at Daimler

Audi and BMW use head-up displays but Daimler does not – why?

“We have tested them but we get mixed reactions from customers regarding what you see – I have problems with it too. Because I see numbers and I see the road and I’m constantly trying to focus my eyes on one or the other. We’ve prepared our vehicles to accept the technology but we have not yet got a clear understanding whether customers will want it.

Spied! - Mercedes-Benz 2014 W222 S-Class (Spy pics & info)

It helps, especially on a track and it displays what gear you're in with the tach info. :D

germancarforum.com

 

[Wolfgang]

This is missing in our G - and I find it ridiculous. That was always something very useful. It’s not even an option.

Agreed. It's MB part number B67650000 and can be retrofit.

 

[Mr. Mercedes]

Agreed. It's MB part number B67650000 and can be retrofit.

Our W212 E-class also had an adjustable strap in the foot well which was fantastic for securing items that didn't fit nicely into the net. It also had very handy storage fitted into the seat bases of both front seats. Our W222 S-class had the net, but lacked both of these additional storage features.

 

[lukeswiss]

Agreed. It's MB part number B67650000 and can be retrofit.

THANK YOU !! - also, is that an R129 ?

 

[hovabongZA]

CarMagSA were really not impressed by the ride quality on our poor SA roads and interior quality.

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[Mr. Mercedes]

CarMagSA were really not impressed by the ride quality on our poor SA roads and interior quality.

Haven't come across any Australian reviews where the ride quality was critisized unless the very large alloys are specified. In which case you shoulld probably option the air suspension. Most comparisons have given the ride the thumbs up over the X5, which continues to be more dynamic.

I have driven both on our roads within the space of a few days and would concur with this assessment. But let's be clear, there was nothing poor about the X5s ride that I noticed either. It was also very suitably refined.

Interior comments are interesting given how rock solid the interior actually feels.

Two GLEs in my family, 1 year old and both with about 20,000 km on the clock now. No issues to report other than one having a slightly iffy key.

 

[Grosser]

I have driven both on our roads within the space of a few days and would concur with this assessment

So it has poor ride quality or?

 

[lukeswiss]

Haven't come across any Australian reviews where the ride quality was critisized unless the very large alloys are specified. In which case you shoulld probably option the air suspension. Most comparisons have given the ride the thumbs up over the X5, which continues to be more dynamic.

I have driven both on our roads within the space of a few days and would concur with this assessment. But let's be clear, there was nothing poor about the X5s ride that I noticed either. It was also very suitably refined.

Interior comments are interesting given how rock solid the interior actually feels.

Two GLEs in my family, 1 year old and both with about 20,000 km on the clock now. No issues to report other than one having a slightly iffy key.

And Aussie roads are fairly rough in parts - not sure how things are in SA, but imagine it to be comparable? - personally I’d want e-abc