EQS (V297) [Official] Mercedes-Benz EQS

[Uygar]

He banned it was coming I guess but he did provide good information

Provided what? Other than sales data and constant trolling? Please. Everyone with a mobile phone can access those if they’re so interested in such topics.

 

[klier]

Provided what?

He did, not gonna lie. Hope it's temporary and he behaves properly next round....

 

[Merc1]

He actually did provide dates and insight into what was coming up.

M

 

[Matski]

It is temporary.

 

[Design FIRST]

He actually did provide dates and insight into what was coming up.

M

And although @leylandi is obviously "Mercedes-Benz centric", I never really gained the impression that he so obviously required a "brand fan echo chamber" in order to maintain his composure. He is a source of interesting, at times, valuable information. Although the repeated jibes directed at BMW and the laugh emojis could get a bit excessive. But hey, he is an "Agent Provocateur". And forums such as these can benefit from them, actually. As long as it doesn't get malicious or downright silly.

 

[Uygar]

Welp, I hope he doesn’t act like that again in the future.

 

[Design FIRST]

Welp, I hope he doesn’t act like that again in the future.

Yeah...

"laughing emojis" are great when applied to good jokes, humorous anecdotes and genuinely clever smartass quips (Touche´ !).

But otherwise, they can be annoying, juvenile or an indication that their posters have either run out of arguments or are incapable of articulating them in a constructive manner.

 

[Serpens]

I laugh a bit when I see EQS facelift. There used to be a rhyme and reason for the "mask" face that the pre-facelift EQS and facelift S-class have vs. the CLA-type face this facelifted EQS ended up with. The front light bar was supposed to be enduring feature across the EV or EV-optional offerings and each of those was going to get this grille setup.

It's since been abandoned, and only products that are expected to bring significant financial impact received investment to revise the design (GLC EV, for example).

 

[Design FIRST]

It was inevitable. He wasn’t even a Mercedes fan at that point, just a lunatic. Now he’s sending me all the negative stuff about Bimmers to my personal Instagram account, lol. Weird. It’s mind boggling to me that someone can be that obsessive with a f*cking car brand.

That is most certainly weird, I'm afraid.

 

[Esp5]

That is most certainly weird, I'm afraid.

He's a troll committed to the cause, a troll graduate will always be one, that's the reality. We mustn't forget that while he sometimes provides some relevant information, mostly what he does is deliberately promote many false and nonsensical claims with the sole purpose of provoking and confusing, in addition to harassing the members who reply to him.

 

[Design FIRST]

He's a troll committed to the cause, a troll graduate will always be one, that's the reality. We mustn't forget that while he sometimes provides some relevant information, mostly what he does is deliberately promote many false and nonsensical claims with the sole purpose of provoking and confusing, in addition to harassing the members who reply to him.

I guess I've been left personally unaffected by it. The jibes at much which is "BMW" can be a bit tiresome, unconstructive and sometimes "adolescent fanboy" silly. The excessive, indiscriminate use of "Laughing Emojis" does annoy me at times. In general. Not good should their application indicate the inability to present or articulate a constructive argument in a sprited debate.

But otherwise, I appreciate much of his input. The spyshot postings, some good relevant M-B headline news from competent media outlets, the effort he applies to posting data, etc.

I guess we've all got characteristics that some selected forum participants "love to hate". Comes with the territory. Good sound info remains good sound info, though. Even though one may not be particularly fond of the source. In that sense, maybe we can view all of this as a more "transactional" exercise. Reap what benefits and disregard the rest. Pardon my philosophic drift. I know, I do it far too often.

 

[Esp5]

I guess we've all got characteristics that some selected forum participants "love to hate". Comes with the territory. Good sound info remains good sound info, though.

That's my point; much of that information, and especially its claims, is riddled with obvious falsehoods and is posted with the sole purpose of trolling and maliciously provoking, which completely undermines its credibility.

 

[Design FIRST]

That's my point; much of that information, and especially its claims, is riddled with obvious falsehoods and is posted with the sole purpose of trolling and maliciously provoking, which completely undermines its credibility.

Perhaps I should have written "ADULT, MEASURED, FACTUAL transactional exercise".

And applying the benefit of a doubt: Sometimes people posting something "wrong" is due to a fleeting error, a brief lapse of logic, or something being lost in translation, or simply having an "off day". It happens and may not be intentional.

 

[leylandi]

	EQS 400	EQS 450+	BMW i7 50x	EQS 500 4matic	BMW i7 60x	EQS 580 4matic
Leistung in PS	367	408	455	476	544	585
Drehmoment in NM	505	505	660	750	745	800
Beschleunigung auf 100 km/h in s	6,2	5,9	5,5	4,5	4,8	4,1
Vmax in km/h	210	210	210	210	240	210
Reichweite WLTP in km	817	926	728	876	727	876
Stromverbrauch auf 100 km in kWh	15,7	15,4	18,1	16,2	18,2	16,2
Akku-Größe in kWh	112	122	112,5	122	112,5	122
Hochvoltbordnetz in Volt	800	800	400	800	400	800
Maximale Ladeleistung in kW	330	350	250	350	250	350
Ladezeit DC von 10-80% in min	25	27	28	27	28	27
Nachgeladene km in 10 min	305	320	235	305	235	305
Länge in m	5,22	5,22	5,39	5,22	5,39	5,22
Breite in m	1,93	1,93	1,95	1,93	1,95	1,93
Höhe in m	1,51	1,51	1,55	1,51	1,55	1,51
cW-Wert	0,2	0,2	0,24	0,2	0,24	0,2
Stirnfläche in m²	2,51	2,51	2,63	2,51	2,63	2,51
Luftwiderstand	0,502	0,502	0,6312	0,502	0,6312	0,502
Radstand	3,21	3,21	3,22	3,21	3,22	3,21
Wendekreis*	10,9/11,9	10,9/11,9	12,3/13,1	10,9/11,9	12,3/13,1	10,9/11,9
Leergewicht in kg	2550	2.550	2.770	2.660	2.770	2.660
Anhängelast in kg	1600	1.600	2.000	1.700	2.000	1.700
Kofferraum in Liter	610	610	500	610	500	610
Preis mit MwSt	94.403 €	108.635 €	tba	123.284 €	tba	134.732 €
Bestellstart	14.04.26	14.04.26	28.05.26	14.04.26	28.05.26	14.04.26

 

[Swissbob]

Both aren’t very beautiful, but on the specs the EQS really smokes the i7.

Hats off to Sindelfingen that’s a serious upgrade for a dead horse.

 

[Uygar]

Very nice specs for a car that looks like ass. Such a pity.

 

[Esp5]

Both aren’t very beautiful

Please, you can't even put them in the same sentence.

 

[Swissbob]

Please, you can't even put them in the same sentence.

Of course I can, the interior of the EQS looks far better than the i7 LCI.

However the exterior is a different story, it looks like it was designed in China with a bad translator German Chinese.

The Germans explained them how to design it but they used a drunken translator which translated the stuff a little bit differently.

 

[Mr. Mercedes]

Both aren’t very beautiful, but on the specs the EQS really smokes the i7.

Hats off to Sindelfingen that’s a serious upgrade for a dead horse.

Did BMW put much effort onto the LCI i7 architecture?

Undesirable at is, the EQS seems to have a decent offering of drivetrains.

 

[Mr. Mercedes]

Of course I can, the interior of the EQS looks far better than the i7 LCI.

However the exterior is a different story, it looks like it was designed in China with a bad translator German Chinese.

The Germans explained them how to design it but they used a drunken translator which translated the stuff a little bit differently.

It makes little sense the EQS was given yet another FL bringing it in line with the ICE and plug in hybrids. And it's a pretty tragic FL too. It not better in any way. You just end up staring at its oddness for new reasons.

If they were really serious about saving the EQS, they would have grafted the GLC and C front end design on as its supposed to be part of the EQ range. Probably far too much engineering involved unfortunately.