EQS (V297) [Official] Mercedes-Benz EQS

[Deleted member 57437]

What happened?

In a nutshell: Condescending, arrogant, disinterested treatment towards an EQS leaser by a large regional authorized factory dealership/shop outlet. In additional, exorbitant fees for services that should be cost-free courtesy.

In addition, the EQS involved here features a number of fit/finish/paint issues.

 

[tristatez28lt1]

Some really interesting feedback from a guy that I respect like few others.

Verdict Mercedes EQS 580: a ground-up car from a company not capable of ground-up thinking.

Such a head-scratcher that I was worried Mercedes had forgotten everything it knows about building cars. Then I jumped into a magnificent S 580 and realized the problem isn’t the company. It’s just this one car.

EQS is a huge, electric “S-Class” with the frumpy proportions of a Toyota Corolla.

It has a bolt-upright, uncomfortable back seat with barely enough headroom to fit an average-sized man(!)

It has a non-user-openable frunk filled with crap instead of storage space.

It has a Drive-In Movie dashboard with screens designed by someone who’s clearly never driven a car. They’re downright dangerous to use. Worse, they’re blinding at night even fully dimmed. You can turn them off, but then EVERYTHING is off. No music, no HVAC.

Every time you floor the accelerator, you get an error message on the screen. Sometimes, you also get cool space-ship noise. Sometimes you don’t. (Slide 10)

And then, there’s the horror-show dynamics.

The steering is so overboosted it feels like there’s no physical connection to the wheels.

The brake pedal is so nonlinear it feels like you have a hole in a brake line.

And the body is genuinely Out. Of. Control.

Slide 9: a stretch of hwy I’ve driven a thousand cars on. I’ve never seen anything like this. Never stops moving, heaving, bounding off the bump stops. The last car I drove with body control this poor was a $250 death-trap ’83 Cadillac Stretch Limo with 4 blown shocks. I’m not kidding.

The powertrain? Commendably smooth and quiet. And fast. 455 Wh/mi in normal driving. Rear-steer means tiny turning radius. It’s shockingly grippy in corners and will genuinely haul ass on a back road.

But it’ll make all its passengers hurl.

This is everything the S-Class isn’t. It’s barely comprehensible that the EQS 580 and S 580 come from the same company. This should be an S-Class with an electric powertrain. Instead, it feels like a sophomoric caricature of what “luxury” means by a team who’s never before built a car. I just don’t get how this could happen at a company like Mercedes-Benz.

#CammisaVerdict #EQS

 

[Serpens]

Jason Cammisa is a through and through car guy. He’s very opinionated but easy to respect. I was totally shocked by his review honestly. I never experienced the body control issues he speaks of and never at any point thought the hyper screen to be dangerous.

 

[tristatez28lt1]

The Hyperscreen issue I witnessed myself at the IAA - its laggy functionality can be best described as Windows Media Player 8.0 running on a computer with too little RAM.

 

[Merc1]

He’s full of shit obviously. That review can’t be taken seriously. The EQS has the body control of an 80s Cadillac with bad shocks? Yeah okay.

M

 

[fortuner]

He’s full of shit obviously. That review can’t be taken seriously. The EQS has the body control of an 80s Cadillac with bad shocks? Yeah okay.

M

Exactly thats just Bs come on now yes the design is not great. Now this guy taking chances a merc that had no body control while most reviews say it handles better then a S class.

 

[Merc1]

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[AndreB]

Unbelievable how someone would pay 170k euro for a car that has these cheap ugly plastics, no matter if its rear console.
At this price point I expect leather everywhere. Hope there's someone close to Mercedes here to tell them how f#cked they are.

 

[kiki voinea]

Hey Merc1 , this guy above is bashing EQS. Get over him ASAP...See what car he drives and start your thing

 

[Laurent T]

Unbelievable how someone would pay 170k euro for a car that has these cheap ugly plastics, no matter if its rear console.
At this price point I expect leather everywhere. Hope there's someone close to Mercedes here to tell them how f#cked they are.

Picture coming from a mass production car or from an pre-production ? I agree this is not to be expected on such an expensive car ! Or is the unperfect assembly just an optical effect ?

 

[kiki voinea]

Picture coming from a mass production car or from an pre-production ? I agree this is not to be expected on such an expensive car ! Or is the unperfect assembly just an optical effect ?

Does it matter ? There is no such thing as pre-production in that state( I mean , without camo ) . Even if it was a press car , it does not have any justification.

 

[PHYBENZ]

Must be pre-production considering it's an AMG.

 

[Serpens]

Does it matter ? There is no such thing as pre-production in that state( I mean , without camo ) . Even if it was a press car , it does not have any justification.

Pre-production cars are absolutely a real thing without camo and press cars regularly arrive with non-final materials and fit/finish issues. That doesn't excuse this particular car but just setting the record straight. The plastics around the AC unit are hard plastic but the fitment I've seen has been fine. It's the grain they used that's most offensive to me. The Taycan uses a smooth look for some its cheap plastic (i.e. rear AC) and it looks much better. It also has less visible seams.

 

[Centurion]

Unbelievable how someone would pay 170k euro for a car that has these cheap ugly plastics, no matter if its rear console.
At this price point I expect leather everywhere. Hope there's someone close to Mercedes here to tell them how f#cked they are.

I hear you. The rear end of the arm rest doesn't look glorious. However hard plastics can be justified by the fact that the area will be kicked and scuffed by dirty shoes.

 

[Sunny]

And then, there’s the horror-show dynamics.

The steering is so overboosted it feels like there’s no physical connection to the wheels.

The brake pedal is so nonlinear it feels like you have a hole in a brake line.

And the body is genuinely Out. Of. Control.

Cammisa's instagram has videos of the car pogoing around. And he is not the only one to complain about the car's horrible dynamics -

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[Merc1]

Hey Merc1 , this guy above is bashing EQS. Get over him ASAP...See what car he drives and start your thing

Hey I don't care, not a fan of the EQS. Try to get yourself together and re-orient or familiarize yourself so you can know what you're talking about before you post.

M

 

[AndreB]

Picture coming from a mass production car or from an pre-production ?

Its an EQS580 listed for sale by a MB dealer, don't think its a pre-production car.

However hard plastics can be justified by the fact that the area will be kicked and scuffed by dirty shoes.

But the S class has some leather trim that probably cost 50 euro more to make. At least use the same parts and that's it.

I thought its details that matter for rich people, that's why they buy Rolls.

 

[fortuner]

Its an EQS580 listed for sale by a MB dealer, don't think its a pre-production car.



But the S class has some leather trim that probably cost 50 euro more to make. At least use the same parts and that's it.

I thought its details that matter for rich people, that's why they buy Rolls.

I agree with you if it’s on the S then the EQS should be same 100 percent agree

 

[Sunny]

Unbelievable how someone would pay 170k euro for a car that has these cheap ugly plastics, no matter if its rear console.
At this price point I expect leather everywhere. Hope there's someone close to Mercedes here to tell them how f#cked they are.

It is not just ugly plastics either, it is so horribly put together.

EQS -

Model S

Lucid

 

[Mick Briesgau]

I agree with you if it’s on the S then the EQS should be same 100 percent agree

Why should it be?
It’s apparent by now, that EQS has absolutely nothing to do with the letter S and what it stands for. It’s pure marketing.