E-Class (W213/C238/A238) [Official] Mercedes-Benz E-Class W213
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The Mercedes-Benz W213 is the fifth generation of the E-Class range.
Body styles: sedan/saloon (W213), wagon/estate (S213), long wheelbase (V213), coupé (C238), cabriolet (A238). Production: 2016–2023. Predecessor: W212 E-Class. Successor: W214 E-Class, C236/A236 CLE.
Wolfgang
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Voila. 
The new Mercedes E63 will be four-wheel drive only
AMG boss Tobias Moers tells TG the RWD M5-rival is dead. But still expect tyre smoke
“It’s going to be four-wheel drive. Only. Even for the UK!” These are the words of the big boss of Mercedes-AMG, Tobias Moers, as he gave us a peek at AMG’s future at the launch of the ballistic GT R. Specifically, the E63 AMG’s future.
“But we are going to introduce a completely new four-wheel drive system, one which we’ve never had in the company. That’s going to be the biggest step we ever did with a generation. In Germany we had the choice of 4x4 and 4x2, and 90-plus per cent bought the 4x4. People in that segment are looking for four-wheel drive.”
Moers didn’t shed too much light on the system itself, but something that actively distributes torque around – a la Ford Focus RS – is likely. The RS, you’ll know, is quite drifty. The bonkers AMG dynamics shouldn’t be going anywhere, then.
The front axle may be gaining drive, but the rear axle, unlike that GT R, won’t be getting any steering. “In the E-Class, there is no need for rear-wheel steering,” Moers told us. While the four-wheel-steer system from the GT R will filter onto other AMG products, it’s likely to be the more hardcore versions which have it.
Moers also confirmed that the twin-turbo 4.0-litre V8 from the AMG GT and the C63 AMG (pictured above) will be used in the new E63. “It’s a different level of power output. The block, crankshaft and so on are going to be the same, but the cylinder head and arrangement of turbochargers are different, though it will be a ‘hot in V’ as well,” he told us.
The 74bhp hike yielded for the AMG GT R arrived via surprisingly small changes over the AMG GT S’s 503bhp setup, so the engine clearly houses a heck of a lot of potential, a fact engineers happily divulged to us. But don’t expect AMG to reignite the notorious RS, M and AMG power wars.
“I’m more focused on the overall package,” Moers continued. “Maybe not in the past, but we’ve moved to that, to a certain extent. Power should be in line with the overall capabilities of the chassis. It’s more important to have a precise throttle response than all that power. You need a certain level and in that segment, it’s around 600bhp.”
So, a circa-600bhp 4.0-litre twin-turbo V8, driving all four wheels through an intriguing new AWD setup. And it’ll still be called E63. Like the sound of it?
http://www.topgear.com/car-news/new-mercedes-e63-will-be-four-wheel-drive-only
The new Mercedes E63 will be four-wheel drive only
AMG boss Tobias Moers tells TG the RWD M5-rival is dead. But still expect tyre smoke
“It’s going to be four-wheel drive. Only. Even for the UK!” These are the words of the big boss of Mercedes-AMG, Tobias Moers, as he gave us a peek at AMG’s future at the launch of the ballistic GT R. Specifically, the E63 AMG’s future.
“But we are going to introduce a completely new four-wheel drive system, one which we’ve never had in the company. That’s going to be the biggest step we ever did with a generation. In Germany we had the choice of 4x4 and 4x2, and 90-plus per cent bought the 4x4. People in that segment are looking for four-wheel drive.”
Moers didn’t shed too much light on the system itself, but something that actively distributes torque around – a la Ford Focus RS – is likely. The RS, you’ll know, is quite drifty. The bonkers AMG dynamics shouldn’t be going anywhere, then.
The front axle may be gaining drive, but the rear axle, unlike that GT R, won’t be getting any steering. “In the E-Class, there is no need for rear-wheel steering,” Moers told us. While the four-wheel-steer system from the GT R will filter onto other AMG products, it’s likely to be the more hardcore versions which have it.
Moers also confirmed that the twin-turbo 4.0-litre V8 from the AMG GT and the C63 AMG (pictured above) will be used in the new E63. “It’s a different level of power output. The block, crankshaft and so on are going to be the same, but the cylinder head and arrangement of turbochargers are different, though it will be a ‘hot in V’ as well,” he told us.
The 74bhp hike yielded for the AMG GT R arrived via surprisingly small changes over the AMG GT S’s 503bhp setup, so the engine clearly houses a heck of a lot of potential, a fact engineers happily divulged to us. But don’t expect AMG to reignite the notorious RS, M and AMG power wars.
“I’m more focused on the overall package,” Moers continued. “Maybe not in the past, but we’ve moved to that, to a certain extent. Power should be in line with the overall capabilities of the chassis. It’s more important to have a precise throttle response than all that power. You need a certain level and in that segment, it’s around 600bhp.”
So, a circa-600bhp 4.0-litre twin-turbo V8, driving all four wheels through an intriguing new AWD setup. And it’ll still be called E63. Like the sound of it?
http://www.topgear.com/car-news/new-mercedes-e63-will-be-four-wheel-drive-only
mercpassion
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Can't wait for this next exciting chapter of E-Class performance, however I hope it is not 4WD only, because that would lose the classic driving qualities of rear wheel drive, which purists associate with most performance cars, but the 600+hp V8, bring it on..Voila.
gmeup
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Can't wait for this next exciting chapter of E-Class performance, however I hope it is not 4WD only, because that would lose the classic driving qualities of rear wheel drive, which purists associate with most performance cars, but the 600+hp V8, bring it on..
Me too i would much prefer RWD but it doesnt look promising.
mercpassion
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Yes you may be right, that is a hell amount of power for a exec RWD car to handle, the rear biased 4WD is probably the best option it seems..
hoffmeister_fan
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gmeup
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E63 is looking good, its a RHD version too! looks to be AWD
HUTSUTAo
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How We’d Spec It: 2017 Mercedes-Benz E-class, the One with the Hood Ornament
We’re here today to raise awareness for luxury-car hood ornaments. As grille-mounted badges try to push hood ornaments into history, we stand tall with them—above the radiator, of course.
Nowhere is this a battle more clearly evident than at Mercedes-Benz. Despite having the most enviable logo in the automobile industry, the three-pointed star, Mercedes designers prefer to affix it to thick-ribbed grilles. Message: “We’re fresh! We’re sporty!” In previous decades, giant central stars were primarily fixed to Benz coupes and roadsters. Now every model has one, mood lighting optional. Only the C-, E-, and S-class models continue to sprout a hood ornament. But let’s be real, is there anything truly sporty about a non-AMG Mercedes sedan? If it were our money, we’d take the 2017 E-class in its most elegant form, with a badge-less, thin-lined chrome grille and a hood ornament reminding us, at every stint behind the wheel, how much we’d spent.
MODEL: 2017 Mercedes-Benz E300 4MATIC (base price: $55,575; as equipped: $63,895)
The new E300 is $950 cheaper than the outgoing E350. A 2.0-liter turbocharged four-cylinder replaces the 3.5-liter naturally-aspirated V-6, so power is down significantly from 302 horsepower to 241, yet the 273 lb-ft of torque remains the same, but is delivered at lower revs. A lower curb weight and two more gears (the automatic is a nine-speed) will help offset that power deficit, but we still expect that the E300 won’t be as quick as the E350. But let’s talk price: We’ve configured our E300 (the 2017 AMG E43 and E400 pricing is not out yet) to be representative of what you’ll actually find in dealer inventory. This is a car that will lease for $600 a month—the sweet spot for mid-size luxury sedans—and is very well equipped.
We opted for the all-wheel-drive 4MATIC, which adds $2500 over the rear-wheel-drive E300, because it’s useful to have in winter weather. And if we haven’t made it clear by now, we chose the Luxury trim—to get the traditional grille and hood ornament—which is technically free but now requires the $1900 Air Body Control suspension. So it’s really not free (before, there was no cost difference between the Sport and Luxury trims). Besides the hood ornament, the Luxury trim comes with softer dampers, extra chrome trim, smaller (17-inch) wheels, and a dash covered in MB-Tex, the fake leather that actually looks and feels like real Mercedes leather. That’s also the standard upholstery for the eight-way power seats, which feature memory and adjustable lumbar support.
There’s a huge chunk of additional standard equipment in the new car versus the 2016 E350. Navigation with three years of map updates on the 12.3-inch central screen, an upgraded COMAND infotainment system withtouch-sensitive controls on the steering wheel, push-button start, 64 colors of LED ambient lighting, LED headlamps, Dynamic Select driving modes, an electric parking brake, a fold-down rear seat, power-folding mirrors, remote start, and a second USB port. Forward collision alert with automatic braking, an early version of vehicle-to-vehicle networking that sounds warnings from other E-class drivers, and PRE-SAFE Sound (which emits “pink noise” during a crash to protect ears) are all standard.
OPTIONS:
Premium 1 Package ($3950)
Air Body Control ($1900)
Designo Magnolia “Flowing Lines” wood ($1300)
Lunar Blue Metallic exterior paint ($720)
Ventilated front seats ($450)
It’s all but impossible to find an E-class without the Premium 1 Package, which includes necessities such as heated front seats and a backup camera (which must be standard, per U.S. law, for the 2019 model year). It also includes automatic parking, blind-spot monitoring, rear cross-traffic alert, keyless entry, power trunk with kick-swipe opening, SiriusXM satellite radio, a 14-speaker 640-watt Burmester stereo with those beautiful aluminum speaker covers, and wireless device charging. To our dismay, all of the E’s incredible self-driving capabilities are bundled into a new Premium 3 Package, for $11,250. Previously, the E offered driver assists in a separate $2800 package that only required Premium 1. The second 12.3-inch display for the instrument panel ($850) also requires Premium 3, so we skipped that, too. A large multi-function display still flanks the standard analog gauges. And since we’re fully capable of spraying our own cologne, we weren’t tempted by the in-car “fragrance atomizer.”
While the burl walnut and matte-finish brown ash woods are beautiful, we splurged on the honey-toned magnolia with its thin white inlays. Not only is it unique, this wood better compliments the wavy patterns on the Macchiato Beige seats and Espresso door and dash toppers. We had to select the ventilated front seats to swap out the piano black trim on the front doors (odd, considering the rear doors get the magnolia, but hey, chilled buttocks are a bonus). The two-toned diamond-quilted Nappa leather took our breath away, but so did its $12,550 price (it requires Premium 2). A $2990 upgrade to regular leather isn’t worth it, in our opinion; MB-Tex is really that good. For maximum comfort and minimum chance of curb rash, we kept the 17-inch wheels. The whole point of an E-class is to ride impeccably smoothly and quietly. There’s no sense pretending the E300 is a performance sedan. That’s for the AMG models.
At just under $64,000, our E300 is the most accessible way to rock a big, snobby Benz. It may not have all the gizmos shown on TV, yet no one will think you’ve skimped. Aside from spending more than twice the price on a Rolls-Royce or Bentley, there’s no better perch from which to view such splendid ornamentation.
We’re here today to raise awareness for luxury-car hood ornaments. As grille-mounted badges try to push hood ornaments into history, we stand tall with them—above the radiator, of course.
Nowhere is this a battle more clearly evident than at Mercedes-Benz. Despite having the most enviable logo in the automobile industry, the three-pointed star, Mercedes designers prefer to affix it to thick-ribbed grilles. Message: “We’re fresh! We’re sporty!” In previous decades, giant central stars were primarily fixed to Benz coupes and roadsters. Now every model has one, mood lighting optional. Only the C-, E-, and S-class models continue to sprout a hood ornament. But let’s be real, is there anything truly sporty about a non-AMG Mercedes sedan? If it were our money, we’d take the 2017 E-class in its most elegant form, with a badge-less, thin-lined chrome grille and a hood ornament reminding us, at every stint behind the wheel, how much we’d spent.
MODEL: 2017 Mercedes-Benz E300 4MATIC (base price: $55,575; as equipped: $63,895)
The new E300 is $950 cheaper than the outgoing E350. A 2.0-liter turbocharged four-cylinder replaces the 3.5-liter naturally-aspirated V-6, so power is down significantly from 302 horsepower to 241, yet the 273 lb-ft of torque remains the same, but is delivered at lower revs. A lower curb weight and two more gears (the automatic is a nine-speed) will help offset that power deficit, but we still expect that the E300 won’t be as quick as the E350. But let’s talk price: We’ve configured our E300 (the 2017 AMG E43 and E400 pricing is not out yet) to be representative of what you’ll actually find in dealer inventory. This is a car that will lease for $600 a month—the sweet spot for mid-size luxury sedans—and is very well equipped.
We opted for the all-wheel-drive 4MATIC, which adds $2500 over the rear-wheel-drive E300, because it’s useful to have in winter weather. And if we haven’t made it clear by now, we chose the Luxury trim—to get the traditional grille and hood ornament—which is technically free but now requires the $1900 Air Body Control suspension. So it’s really not free (before, there was no cost difference between the Sport and Luxury trims). Besides the hood ornament, the Luxury trim comes with softer dampers, extra chrome trim, smaller (17-inch) wheels, and a dash covered in MB-Tex, the fake leather that actually looks and feels like real Mercedes leather. That’s also the standard upholstery for the eight-way power seats, which feature memory and adjustable lumbar support.
There’s a huge chunk of additional standard equipment in the new car versus the 2016 E350. Navigation with three years of map updates on the 12.3-inch central screen, an upgraded COMAND infotainment system withtouch-sensitive controls on the steering wheel, push-button start, 64 colors of LED ambient lighting, LED headlamps, Dynamic Select driving modes, an electric parking brake, a fold-down rear seat, power-folding mirrors, remote start, and a second USB port. Forward collision alert with automatic braking, an early version of vehicle-to-vehicle networking that sounds warnings from other E-class drivers, and PRE-SAFE Sound (which emits “pink noise” during a crash to protect ears) are all standard.
OPTIONS:
Premium 1 Package ($3950)
Air Body Control ($1900)
Designo Magnolia “Flowing Lines” wood ($1300)
Lunar Blue Metallic exterior paint ($720)
Ventilated front seats ($450)
It’s all but impossible to find an E-class without the Premium 1 Package, which includes necessities such as heated front seats and a backup camera (which must be standard, per U.S. law, for the 2019 model year). It also includes automatic parking, blind-spot monitoring, rear cross-traffic alert, keyless entry, power trunk with kick-swipe opening, SiriusXM satellite radio, a 14-speaker 640-watt Burmester stereo with those beautiful aluminum speaker covers, and wireless device charging. To our dismay, all of the E’s incredible self-driving capabilities are bundled into a new Premium 3 Package, for $11,250. Previously, the E offered driver assists in a separate $2800 package that only required Premium 1. The second 12.3-inch display for the instrument panel ($850) also requires Premium 3, so we skipped that, too. A large multi-function display still flanks the standard analog gauges. And since we’re fully capable of spraying our own cologne, we weren’t tempted by the in-car “fragrance atomizer.”
While the burl walnut and matte-finish brown ash woods are beautiful, we splurged on the honey-toned magnolia with its thin white inlays. Not only is it unique, this wood better compliments the wavy patterns on the Macchiato Beige seats and Espresso door and dash toppers. We had to select the ventilated front seats to swap out the piano black trim on the front doors (odd, considering the rear doors get the magnolia, but hey, chilled buttocks are a bonus). The two-toned diamond-quilted Nappa leather took our breath away, but so did its $12,550 price (it requires Premium 2). A $2990 upgrade to regular leather isn’t worth it, in our opinion; MB-Tex is really that good. For maximum comfort and minimum chance of curb rash, we kept the 17-inch wheels. The whole point of an E-class is to ride impeccably smoothly and quietly. There’s no sense pretending the E300 is a performance sedan. That’s for the AMG models.
At just under $64,000, our E300 is the most accessible way to rock a big, snobby Benz. It may not have all the gizmos shown on TV, yet no one will think you’ve skimped. Aside from spending more than twice the price on a Rolls-Royce or Bentley, there’s no better perch from which to view such splendid ornamentation.
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The Mercedes E-Class is the 2016 Auto Express Executive Car of the Year, with the Jaguar XF and Tesla Model S commended
Mercedes has moved the goalposts in the executive market with its new E-Class, which blends imperious quality and refinement in a stylish and efficient package. And it pushes the boundaries for driving tech, too.
Second-generation autonomous driving, called Drive Pilot, keeps you in your lane at up to 80mph and even changes lanes for you where traffic laws allow. Plus, the cabin is more than a match for the S-Class saloon’s.Twin widescreen displays are available and add a futuristic edge, while the sumptuous seats ensure you’re very comfortable on long journeys.
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It seems like the US spec executive versions always get the smallest and most boring looking wheels.
Mick Briesgau
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I don't understand the problem. You can spec thema easily with an other type of wheels, or can't you?
If you want a W213 that won't depreciate like a chest of drawers falling off Burj Khalifa, then all you have to do is not follow Car and Driver's advice. The market is a force that you should definitely not trifle with, so if you follow CD's advice of buying an E-class in an unusual combination, you will end up with a car that nobody wants when resale time come.
hoffmeister_fan
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when I was trying to spec an E-class with the luxury pack over at MBUSA.com, the choice of wheels were two designs, both of which were terrible. The only other choice would be to go choose an option from the accessory section, and the only one that I thought looked good was close to US$3000, which is ridiculous. I'd prefer to get an E-class with the grille and hood ornament of a Luxury E and the front and rear valance and side skirt of a Sport E, but alas, it doesn't seem possible.
ThroughandThrough
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I test drove the 2017 E-Class this week.
It looks great from both inside and out, but there were too many negatives.
Overall, we felt the car was cheap. Thin handles, lightweight doors, thin seats and poor visibility led us to purchase a different vehicle.
We were pretty disappointed.
It looks great from both inside and out, but there were too many negatives.
Overall, we felt the car was cheap. Thin handles, lightweight doors, thin seats and poor visibility led us to purchase a different vehicle.
We were pretty disappointed.
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That's a first and very interesting to note. 90% of the review has raved about the build and finish.
Can't wait to check these out in August when they arrive locally.
Can't wait to check these out in August when they arrive locally.
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