E-Class (W212/C207/A207) [Official] Mercedes-Benz E-Class Coupe (C207)

[HighestOfHigh]

As it will be written the best looking CLK was mine...the 208 model. End of story. The C124 Coupe of 1988 was such an elegant design when introduced, very expensive and very rare....a true Mercedes-Benz. The car is timeless today as are any 124 models. I don't see how a Benz could not like any of the 124 models.

This new bs Mercedes is trying to pull is just that. The C207 (going backwards now?) isn't an real E-Class coupe. Period. Its a CLK. CLK worked because it didn't imply anything other than it was a coupe. Look at the specs...the new "E" Coupe is based on the W204. End of story.


M

Merc1, I've never seen you this upset before. Maybe when the facelift comes around their put the CLK back on the rear. I agree though that it is and always will be a CLK (Even though I have always considered it a e-class coupe myself since it always favored the E-class and never the c-class).

Only thing thats premium is the price tag but after seeing the car IRL, it doesn't feel more premium than E92 or A5.

The S5 yes...that car is amazing.

 

[Merc1]

Merc1, I've never seen you this upset before. Maybe when the facelift comes around their put the CLK back on the rear. I agree though that it is and always will be a CLK (Even though I have always considered it a e-class coupe myself since it always favored the E-class and never the c-class).

Not really upset, but I just can't stand bs marketing. There was nothing wrong with the CLK nameplate, it was starting to make a name for itself, especially the Cabriolet models. It was a nice mix of the two with a name that stood apart from both, even with the C there nobody thought of it as a C-Class.


M

 

[Osnabrueck]

Abandoning nameplates is never a good thing, unless there was a stigma attached to the outgoing model.

In this case, there wasn't, so I think it's a terrible idea for Mercedes to smear the two cars together into one 3er-like persona. The CLK badge had plenty of cache attached to it, so MB would have done themselves no harm to just stick to the script.

The only "explanation" I can think of is that they want to upmarket the car by half a notch to make room for something as-yet-unseen in their product roadmap.

A lame explanation would be that they want to save a buck with integrated marketing - putting the sedan and coupe under the same tent.

Maybe somebody has more insight into this, but on the face of it I think ditching CLK was a very, very bad idea. Good for MB that the car looks drop-dead gorgeous.

BTW - Hello HOH! Good to see you again.

 

[Merc1]

The only "explanation" I can think of is that they want to upmarket the car by half a notch to make room for something as-yet-unseen in their product roadmap.

I really hope that is the case....a smaller, true coupe not some hatchback thing.


M

 

[HighestOfHigh]

BTW - Hello HOH! Good to see you again.

Thanks Osna!

I really hope that is the case....a smaller, true coupe not some hatchback thing.


M

I remember hearing some plans for a "CLS" like C-class. Maybe that is still in the works.

 

[PHYBENZ]

I think one reason they did it is to streamline the lineup and the other is because they will introduce a smaller cheaper coupe.

It had gotten a little ridiculous with all the different letters and models, and from what I have heard it had been confusing for consumers. I think this simplifies things, doesn't make MB seem like it has a million models and makes more sense. E coupe, S coupe, CLS. Why do we need CLK, C Sportcoupe, CLS, CL? I think much simpler.

I don't think it's a mistake at all. The CLk hadn't made a name for itself like the SL or SLK or CLS. It was always a model that was kind of caught in between with a C class letter in it demanding E class prices. Didn't make much sense.

Abandoning nameplates is never a good thing, unless there was a stigma attached to the outgoing model.

In this case, there wasn't, so I think it's a terrible idea for Mercedes to smear the two cars together into one 3er-like persona. The CLK badge had plenty of cache attached to it, so MB would have done themselves no harm to just stick to the script.

The only "explanation" I can think of is that they want to upmarket the car by half a notch to make room for something as-yet-unseen in their product roadmap.

A lame explanation would be that they want to save a buck with integrated marketing - putting the sedan and coupe under the same tent.

Maybe somebody has more insight into this, but on the face of it I think ditching CLK was a very, very bad idea. Good for MB that the car looks drop-dead gorgeous.

BTW - Hello HOH! Good to see you again.

 

[coolraoul]

As it will be written the best looking CLK was mine...the 208 model. End of story. The C124 Coupe of 1988 was such an elegant design when introduced, very expensive and very rare....a true Mercedes-Benz. The car is timeless today as are any 124 models. I don't see how a Benz could not like any of the 124 models.

This new bs Mercedes is trying to pull is just that. The C207 (going backwards now?) isn't an real E-Class coupe. Period. Its a CLK. CLK worked because it didn't imply anything other than it was a coupe. Look at the specs...the new "E" Coupe is based on the W204. End of story.


M

I realized I may have been confused... Yours is the 209? So the first CLK, right? In that case, it's this one I consider the best-looking CLK. The one with C-Class eyes, based on the W203, is the one I consider weak and heavy.

However, I do not miss the CLK nameplate. There was too many names at MB, it was not really understandable. Now it's clearer.

BTW, the 207 (so, the new one) does share a lot with the 212 E-Class (which shares a lot itself with the 204 C-Class), so that it's not really clear if it's based on the C or the E. The size of it says C, but I read that the front axle for instance was directly coming out of the E...
All this platform game is not really decisive, it's how the car feels that matters and not whith which one it shares the most components imo.

 

[HighestOfHigh]

I don't think it's a mistake at all. The CLk hadn't made a name for itself like the SL or SLK or CLS. It was always a model that was kind of caught in between with a C class letter in it demanding E class prices. Didn't make much sense.

Very good point! The CLK always seemed to go along with the C-class, but it had E-class looks. Not to mention most Mercedes-Benz customers do full pay attention to every since model like some of us do. The only issue I have is that the CLS was suppose to be the "COUPE" version of the E-class. So in a way we have almost three E-classes. On the other hand the new CLS seems to be going more upmarket and the size of the new one seems to be biggers. So will it now be more towards the S-class?

Thats another thing I didn't understand is if it was based of the e-class, why didn't it get a CLE name plate?

Mercedes-Benz is up to something.....

 

[Merc1]

I realized I may have been confused... Yours is the 209? So the first CLK, right? In that case, it's this one I consider the best-looking CLK. The one with C-Class eyes, based on the W203, is the one I consider weak and heavy.

However, I do not miss the CLK nameplate. There was too many names at MB, it was not really understandable. Now it's clearer.

BTW, the 207 (so, the new one) does share a lot with the 212 E-Class (which shares a lot itself with the 204 C-Class), so that it's not really clear if it's based on the C or the E. The size of it says C, but I read that the front axle for instance was directly coming out of the E...
All this platform game is not really decisive, it's how the car feels that matters and not whith which one it shares the most components imo.

LOL....nope the first CLK is the C208...which is the one I have. The one I have was based on the W202.


M

 

[coolraoul]

Okay so I was right the first time. Strange how the new one is the 207 and the old ones are the 208 and 209...

However it's not a first. The Pagoda SL for instance was the W113 and its follower was the W107...

 

[GTA45E]

Now that is the way I feel about the E-class sedan. It's not smooth at all. So Boxy and it doesn't flow. Everything looks good until you get to the rear doors then it's a completely different car and the rear lights are just....off.

Hmmm, you do have a point but I think the whole E-Class body design is boxy with a certain (real) flow.. When you look at the whole car this way (instead of picking out certain details) you will see that it works well.
The overlaped hood and rear door cutaway adds to the boxy theme as a whole package. I believe MB did this to break away from the (CLS) coupe-sedan design scheme which so many other car makers are now following.

 

[HighestOfHigh]

Yes, it is a beautiful Box. Then again I feel like I'm looking at a Cadillac CTS.

After this ......




I expected to see something far greater then this new E-class. Probably something like a Mid-Size S-class with four lights in the front...anything but this box

 

[NarutoRamen]

Now, now, let's not compare the E to the CTS. The CTS is REALLY boxy, as it was designed to be. The E is less curvaceous than the outgoing E but it is nowhere near as boxlike as the CTS. Though, the CTS is a great looking car.

 

[GTA45E]

I think the new one looks better and a little more dynamic than the previous version. MB is done with those soft themes. (Look what happened to the SL for example) This new E-Class falls right in line with the second SL f/l.

We need to make a new thread on this subject...

 

[HighestOfHigh]

Lol true...we are suppose to be talking about the coupe version.

But GTA, the front is outstanding and far more aggressive then the previous model....but the middle and the rear....

 

[GTA45E]

I like the new one better man. You can tell the E hasn`t change that much. It has evolved..

 

[Merc1]

That is true when looked at it in pics like that. My only problem is that the new design isn't as "clean" as before, it has some fussy details that I need to see in person. Also the W211 didn't look as bad with smaller wheels either. Either way though I think I like the sedan better than the coupe.


M

 

[VroomVroom]

New E-class has so much character, clean smooth lines.

But I suppose all the E-class line up has been about the simple beauty of the car.

Either way I still love the new e-class

 

[Merc1]

This is what I want for my next car....a 07-09 E350/E550 4Matic or a 07 SL550. The W211 became perfection after the facelift.


M

 

[Yaz]

The C207 (going backwards now?)


M

You know, I've always wanted to ask about that. I mean I know they couldn't call it the C210 ('cause of the W210 I guess), but why a 207? If it were based on the W212, it should have been coded the C212 right?

Oh well, I guess we'll never get a straight answer for these questions.


Oh and please get an '09 W211 if you ever go that route. It's just perfection .