AMG ONE [Official] Mercedes-AMG Project ONE

[Matski]

The combination of power and down force should mean the AMG should be a lot quicker.

It's just a simulation, at the end of the day

I generally put it down to tyres.

When they tested the P1, 918, LaFerrari combo at Silverstone National circuit all three were slower than a BTCC Ford Focus of that era too.

The disparity between what a fairly simple car can do on racing slicks at most circuits, and what a massively over-engineered multi-million pound hype-car can do is one of the main reasons why I don't get that excited by this class of car.

 

[Bucketslash11]

I generally put it down to tyres.

When they tested the P1, 918, LaFerrari combo at Silverstone National circuit all three were slower than a BTCC Ford Focus of that era too.

The disparity between what a fairly simple car can do on racing slicks at most circuits, and what a massively over-engineered multi-million pound hype-car can do is one of the main reasons why I don't get that excited by this class of car.

all of that technology and all of that aerodynamics just to offset huge mechanical grip advantage of a lightweight car with slicks

kinda puts into perspective how grippy slicks are

 

[AbsoluteUnit]

I generally put it down to tyres.

When they tested the P1, 918, LaFerrari combo at Silverstone National circuit all three were slower than a BTCC Ford Focus of that era too.

The disparity between what a fairly simple car can do on racing slicks at most circuits, and what a massively over-engineered multi-million pound hype-car can do is one of the main reasons why I don't get that excited by this class of car.

I mean none of them are livable cars.

But if you put the AMG and Valkyrie on slicks they'd be a hell of a lot faster.

At the end of the day tho, these cars are mostly engineering exercises and hype tools

 

[Moctecus]

Is this due to the AMG having the track mode which reduces the height of the suspension and deploys the spoilers and air ducts to increase downforce at higher speeds? While the AM is more a static car with the suspension retaining same driving height?

The AMG One has mode-selectable adaptive suspension and mode-selectable active aerodynamics. Once a mode has been selected, the settings do not change without further input from the driver (e.g. pressing the DRS button). Its multi-link pushrod-actuated suspension with separate control over roll and heave is quite sophisticated, but it's still a passive suspension.
The Valkyrie, on the other hand, has fully active suspension and fully active aerodynamics. Both the suspension and the active aero elements are being adjusted constantly and automatically based on the selected mode. The 'sport' and 'track' suspension modes lower the target ride-height compared to the 'urban' mode. AM have talked about having to program the active suspension, so that the driver still gets some feedback from the car rather than everything being ironed out in the pursuit of optimum aero performance. Apparently, the feedback might still be somewhat reduced compared to a passive car.

 

[Revvd]

The comments on the difference in high speed handling is fascinating, especially as the AM was designed specifically to provide massive downforce. Is this due to the AMG having the track mode which reduces the height of the suspension and deploys the spoilers and air ducts to increase downforce at higher speeds? While the AM is more a static car with the suspension retaining same driving height?

As far as suspension goes, I'd say it's the other way around. AMG One is the static one and Valkyrie, with its active torsion bars, offers greater body control, which then takes away from the driving feel and makes it difficult to commit in order to explore the limits.
It kind of reads as if Valkyrie is driven with visual feedback more so than with the load cell that is your ass.

It's just a simulation, at the end of the day

Plus, AMG One is just about the hardest car to simulate... if one knew all the stats, which is not the case. They don't even claim a combined torque figure because it's impossible to quantify.
That said, I'm happy with the model, given that it's only 1.1s off on average vs all the IRL AMG lap times.

 

[Revvd]

But if you put the AMG and Valkyrie on slicks they'd be a hell of a lot faster.

At the end of the day tho, these cars are mostly engineering exercises and hype tools

It's so ridiculous that Mercedes actually developed bespoke slicks for AMG One. They really thought the owners were going to use it like that
Meanwhile I know of exactly one instance, out of 275 cars, where the owner put on the slicks and entered a track day (Mr. GERCollector).