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P1 [Official] McLaren P1 Supercar
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The McLaren P1 (codenamed P12) is a flagship sports car produced by McLaren Automotive. It is the second installment in McLaren's Ultimate Series after the McLaren F1. Considered to be the spiritual successor to the F1, the P1 was one of the first high performance sports cars to be introduced incorporating hybrid technology; the Porsche 918 Spyder having begun taking orders prior to the P1 and the LaFerrari introduced alongside it.
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wouldn't it then be "blurple" or maybe "blaple?"
and I do think it is THE color on this bad-boy.
and I do think it is THE color on this bad-boy.
autocar official justification about p1 disappointing performance:
"I won’t keep coming back to it, but a couple of readers have suggested the performance figures we recorded in our recent road test were “disappointing”. I know. In the same way that the sun “isn’t quite warm enough”, I didn’t quite agree, either.
However, it was a justifiable query. McLaren suggests that the P1, from rest, will reach 100km/h in 2.8sec (as it did in our hands), 200km/h in
6.8sec (which we missed by a few tenths) and 300km/h (that’s 186mph to you and me) in 16.5sec.We didn’t reach the 180mph mark until 18.0sec had ticked by.
That’s still epically fast – a McLaren F1 needed 22sec to reach 186mph – but it’s short of the claim, it’s true. You get a feel for how reliable car
makers are in their assertions, and we’ve quickly discovered a company like McLaren doesn’t make claims its cars can’t match.
So why didn’t the P1 match its manufacturer figures in our hands? Well, we record a car’s times with two people aboard.
That’s a legacy from when it took one person to drive and another to operate the timing gear.
It doesn’t these days, but for consistency we’ve always stayed that way, and it often helps to have an extra pair of hands to make notes about gearchange points, rev limits and so on, so the driver is free to do his job.
Often as not, there’s a lot of fuel aboard, too.Webegin our performance tests with a full tank, so we can weigh it that way. We can also measure at
what rate it gets through the gas, so that if you’re doing a track day, you’ll have an idea of how frequently you might have to fill up. The fact that acceleration tests aren’t hard on tyres and brakes is another reason why we get them done early. So with our figures, you’ll always know what
a car will do, not what it can do. At least our driving can’t be blamed for the discrepancy – not since the inexorable rollout of launch control on fast cars, which has stifled inter-mag competition in seeing who can get a car off the line most rapidly. As long as you select the right sequence of
buttons in a P1, it’s a simple case of applying full throttle, holding on and giggling.
No matter; nobody who sat in the P1 thought its acceleration anything other than outrageous.
All except one passenger, who’d kindly helped us with a photo location. He said it was only the second-biggest accelerative thrill he’d experienced. He had, though, been in the back seat of an RAF Panavia Tornado, which “does what [the P1] just did, but instead of for a few seconds it
does it for about a minute and a half, and up to around 15,000 feet”. Which seemed a fair point.
"I won’t keep coming back to it, but a couple of readers have suggested the performance figures we recorded in our recent road test were “disappointing”. I know. In the same way that the sun “isn’t quite warm enough”, I didn’t quite agree, either.
However, it was a justifiable query. McLaren suggests that the P1, from rest, will reach 100km/h in 2.8sec (as it did in our hands), 200km/h in
6.8sec (which we missed by a few tenths) and 300km/h (that’s 186mph to you and me) in 16.5sec.We didn’t reach the 180mph mark until 18.0sec had ticked by.
That’s still epically fast – a McLaren F1 needed 22sec to reach 186mph – but it’s short of the claim, it’s true. You get a feel for how reliable car
makers are in their assertions, and we’ve quickly discovered a company like McLaren doesn’t make claims its cars can’t match.
So why didn’t the P1 match its manufacturer figures in our hands? Well, we record a car’s times with two people aboard.
That’s a legacy from when it took one person to drive and another to operate the timing gear.
It doesn’t these days, but for consistency we’ve always stayed that way, and it often helps to have an extra pair of hands to make notes about gearchange points, rev limits and so on, so the driver is free to do his job.
Often as not, there’s a lot of fuel aboard, too.Webegin our performance tests with a full tank, so we can weigh it that way. We can also measure at
what rate it gets through the gas, so that if you’re doing a track day, you’ll have an idea of how frequently you might have to fill up. The fact that acceleration tests aren’t hard on tyres and brakes is another reason why we get them done early. So with our figures, you’ll always know what
a car will do, not what it can do. At least our driving can’t be blamed for the discrepancy – not since the inexorable rollout of launch control on fast cars, which has stifled inter-mag competition in seeing who can get a car off the line most rapidly. As long as you select the right sequence of
buttons in a P1, it’s a simple case of applying full throttle, holding on and giggling.
No matter; nobody who sat in the P1 thought its acceleration anything other than outrageous.
All except one passenger, who’d kindly helped us with a photo location. He said it was only the second-biggest accelerative thrill he’d experienced. He had, though, been in the back seat of an RAF Panavia Tornado, which “does what [the P1] just did, but instead of for a few seconds it
does it for about a minute and a half, and up to around 15,000 feet”. Which seemed a fair point.
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How about now?
@Beemer B773ER if too many pics in a single post, please consider uploading and showing them as thumbnails instead to help your fellow members with their browsers. I've edited your posts (#728 and #730) above showing them like that.
@DjordjeC63 let me know if still slow for you we'll move them to the pics thread.
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The P1 in that bronze colour looks fantastic, IMO after seeing this video of the two cars side by side, I like the looks of the P1 more than the LaFerrari. It looks much smaller than the Ferrari, especially the front nose where I think LaFerrari has alot of front overhang. If they had included the 918 in the video, then for sure my choice would the Porsche, then the P1 and finally LaFerrari.
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I like the way both look for different reasons. La Ferrari looks more exotic, while P1 looks more racy. La Ferrari has a more fluid design while P1 has better proportions. La Ferrari's greenhouse is to die for, while P1's rear end is. Can't really go wrong with either.
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True but for the same money (almost) I buy the P1 and the 918 non weisach.
How?
mini_cooper4
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They are comparing the P1 with its direct competitors. What else are they supposed to discuss here? Is it just a place where you only share info and reviews about the particular vehicle?
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I suppose so, just want to increase the level of participation over on that thread.
Bucketslash11
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just create a hybrid hypercar thread
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Then discussion over here will simply die off.
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