One:1 [Official] Koenigsegg One:1


The Koenigsegg One:1 was presented at the 2014 Geneva Motor Show held in March. Koenigsegg built six cars apart from the car presented at the Geneva Motor Show, all of which were already sold. Koenigsegg took two cars to the 2014 Goodwood Festival of Speed, where they were displayed alongside other sports cars such as the McLaren P1, LaFerrari, the Porsche 918 Spyder and the Pagani Huayra.
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Zonda said:
Koenigsegg is basically a tuner with a custom chassis. It's hard to regard them as highly as a bespoke manufacturer.
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AFAIK Koenigsegg's puts more into the development and manufacture of their own engine than Pagani does. So if that is the criteria to measure if a company is a tuner or not, it makes Pagani more of one than Koenigsegg. You don't have to like Koenigsegg or their creations. I don't. And would any day have a Zonda over any of them. But that doesn't make it okay to slander them by attaching a silly "tuner' label on them, when they clearly are not that.
 
Simplified: Koenigsegg started out with one objective, build the fastest road car in the world. There was a catch, Christian wanted it to look a certain way. He needed a custom chassis. Therefore tuning a Corvette or any other easy solution was ruled out.
However he did choose the easy way in a lot of details that to me are fundamental to an expensive hypercar.
For example the Ford block, quality, general sophistication, supercharging, turbocharging and a general history of flip flopping.

Given the ambition they started out with and how they worked to get there makes me consider them on the same level as a tuner. The same end could have been achieved, and better by simply tuning an already good car.

I'm not comparing them to Pagani, nor being biased in any way. These are just my views on Koenigsegg.
 
Zonda said:
Simplified: Koenigsegg started out with one objective, build the fastest road car in the world. There was a catch, Christian wanted it to look a certain way. He needed a custom chassis. Therefore tuning a Corvette or any other easy solution was ruled out.
However he did choose the easy way in a lot of details that to me are fundamental to an expensive hypercar.
For example the Ford block, quality, general sophistication, supercharging, turbocharging and a general history of flip flopping.

Given the ambition they started out with and how they worked to get there makes me consider them on the same level as a tuner. The same end could have been achieved, and better by simply tuning an already good car.

I'm not comparing them to Pagani, nor being biased in any way. These are just my views on Koenigsegg.
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It seems to me Pagani is using AMG engines to make their cars fast... Ford has perhaps less class or isnt a name to be cocky with but it gets the job done with almost twice the power of an AMG in the Huyra. They both have taken the same road, just not in the same directions!!!! If one is a tuner, the other one is just the same... Look at Alpina and Ruf, both car manufacturers without their own body or engines (except the RUF CTR3 which is basicly a tuned and chopped 911). I think a rethink could do some good...;)
 
^ The Ford block is something you can buy.. and put in your go cart if you wish to die.

Mercedes do not make engines for anyone, so the story behind the Engine in the Zonda is that Juan Manuel Fangio who had massive respect at Mercedes (obviously), made AMG provide that engine to Pagani.
As long as he promised that he will only and forever use Mercedes engines. ( fangio knew about the bulletproof nature of MB engines)

As the Zonda became a classic and in turn drew much attention to AMG and Mercedes, they decided to make a bespoke engine for the Huayra, which is not made for any other Mercedes car.

So its very different from buying a standard ford block and tuning the livin shit out of it.

Let me put it straight to you

The Ksegg is a blunt force object, while a Pagani is a surgical tool.

You pick what you like most.
 
Only the early Koenigseggs used the Ford V8 engine blocks. From CCX onwards they use their own block specifically made by them or rather made for them.

The new engine is of all aluminum construction, made out of 356 aluminum with a T7 heat treat to further enhance block integrity and cylinder bore chill during casting. Specifically created and cast for Koenigsegg by Grainger & Worrall, a casting specialist with F1 experience in drivetrain components, the engine is built, assembled and tested at their Ängelholm production plant.
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I don't really care for any of the Koenigseggs and like Paganis more, especially the Zondas. But on the engine front, Koenigseggs have more credibility than Pagani. Calling either a "tuner" is really a dumb and uninformed comment.
 
LaArtist said:
^ The Ford block is something you can buy.. and put in your go cart if you wish to die.

Mercedes do not make engines for anyone, so the story behind the Engine in the Zonda is that Juan Manuel Fangio who had massive respect at Mercedes (obviously), made AMG provide that engine to Pagani.
As long as he promised that he will only and forever use Mercedes engines. ( fangio knew about the bulletproof nature of MB engines)

As the Zonda became a classic and in turn drew much attention to AMG and Mercedes, they decided to make a bespoke engine for the Huayra, which is not made for any other Mercedes car.

So its very different from buying a standard ford block and tuning the livin shit out of it.

Let me put it straight to you

The Ksegg is a blunt force object, while a Pagani is a surgical tool.

You pick what you like most.
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I understand your post, but it goes about being a tuner or a manufacturer.

Sorry but being able to buy the engine from Ford or AMG doesnt define that question nor does it solve it.

In my eyes they are both the same: manufacturer. :)
 
^Again, Koenigsegg never bought entire engines from Ford like Pagani does from AMG. They used to use the Ford V8 blocks and rest of the engine was their own but even that stopped with CCX. Now they make their own engine, including the block.
 
Koenigsegg talking about the engine in Agera R. Funny thing is they make even their own ECU. While even the large scale manufacturers just buy them from suppliers like Bosch or Magneti Marelli.

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You don't have to like the car or the guy, but give the guy his due.
 
How much one1 is faster than Agera R in 0-200 kmh 0-250 and 0-300 ? What do you think?
 
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Do they have any times for the cars that took part in this race? I would be interested to see how well this did against other cars that took part, such as possibly LaFerrari, 918 and P1 or even 650S or 911 Turbo. The track is very narrow, amazing they can travel at such high speeds through the different corners.
 
Rolf said:
Do they have any times for the cars that took part in this race? I would be interested to see how well this did against other cars that took part, such as possibly LaFerrari, 918 and P1 or even 650S or 911 Turbo. The track is very narrow, amazing they can travel at such high speeds through the different corners.
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Unfortunaly they only meassured the laptime for 918 and P1 in E-mode so the laptimes for those two were really slow. And I dont recall they even meassure the laptime for the K.egg.

The laptime done by Loeb in his Peugeot 208 T16 Pikes Peak was insane to watch. Quickest car that day.

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Koenigsegg

Koenigsegg Automotive AB is a Swedish manufacturer of high-performance sports cars based in Ängelholm, Skåne County, Sweden. The company was founded in 1994 in Sweden by Christian von Koenigsegg, to produce a "world-class" sports car. Many years of development and testing led to the CC8S, the company's first street-legal production car which was introduced in 2002.
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