F-Type [Official] Jaguar F-Type

[mini_cooper4]

Pity it's not gonna be naturally aspirated then eh?

Any info on the engines ?

 

[martinbo]

Supercharged V6 in differing states of tune appears most likely.

 

[Monteverdi]

I just adore those rear lights + the whole rear I love, so retro

Which reminds me...

No, it should remind you this:

 

[mini_cooper4]

Supercharged V6 in differing states of tune appears most likely.

Better be supercharged even though it's not worth the money as the base model will be under 400PS for sure...

 

[Deckhook]

Not only is size and weight similar to SL but I imagine its price might approach that level too. At least it's way better looking.

 

[Kilcrohane]

I wonder if all these expensive open 2-seaters are now missing the point.

When you have a faster, much lighter, manual box-option M135i, with similar power to the base-spec 340 PS F-type, for half the price, and for example, a coming, much quicker, probably lighter M3, with around 450 PS for around the same price, £60k, it makes me think the market for these open 2-seaters must be dwindling, and that includes the likes of the 6-series convertible and Merc SL.

True enthusiasts, not poseurs, will probably want at least the option of a twin-clutch 'box or preferably a full manual, and will appreciate the smaller dimensions and lighter weight of the likes of the M135i, S3, M3 and so on.

That leaves the market for expensive, £60k-plus 2-seater open-tops to increasingly a few aging narcissists and predominantly women. Trouble is, younger women, especially 20s-40s, are now increasingly hooked on sporting SUVs/crossovers, like the Q5, as an exemplar, which means the market for these cars must be constrained at best.

 

[mini_cooper4]

I wonder if all these expensive open 2-seaters are now missing the point.

When you have a faster, much lighter, manual box-option M135i, with similar power to the base-spec 340 PS F-type, for half the price, and for example, a coming, much quicker, probably lighter M3, with around 450 PS for around the same price, £60k, it makes me think the market for these open 2-seaters must be dwindling, and that includes the likes of the 6-series convertible and Merc SL.

True enthusiasts, not poseurs, will probably want at least the option of a twin-clutch 'box or preferably a full manual, and will appreciate the smaller dimensions and lighter weight of the likes of the M135i, S3, M3 and so on.

That leaves the market for expensive, £60k-plus 2-seater open-tops to increasingly a few aging narcissists and predominantly women. Trouble is, younger women, especially 20s-40s, are now increasingly hooked on sporting SUVs/crossovers, like the Q5, as an exemplar, which means the market for these cars must be constrained at best.

Drive wise I do prefer the BMWs you suggested but I'm not an aging narcissist just a 22yo man who want's to spend his sunny days in something he really would enjoy. Working my a** off every single day means I should spend my "free" time in whatever I like. I don't think F-Type's price is reasonable, tho

 

[martinbo]

Gimme a Boxster S over this any day. As nice looking as this Shaguar is.

 

[Deckhook]

The person who would consider the F-type or any of it's rivals wouldn't take a second look at a M135i or probably an M3 convertible either because those two are totally different types of cars and for the more part targeting a different type of customer, look at the latest Z4 it's much more of a cruiser than before and is much better received because of it.

The market isn't huge but it's there and has been from not long after the car was invented.

 

[omoderncultureo]

http://www.flickr.com/photos/upcomingvehiclesx/sets/72157629741019823/

 

[HighestOfHigh]

^Now that is hot...

 

[Deckhook]

The interior is very Aston Martin in my opinion. Compared to its main rivals (6er, SL, Maserati) it's by far the most appealing looking which in this type of car has to be one of the most important requirements.

 

[Kilcrohane]

The interior is very Aston Martin in my opinion.

- but Aston Martin interiors are so antiquated they have to be carbon dated. Ah, I see what you mean.

Seriously people, the 'new' steering wheel looks gash. The climate control knobs look like something Amstrad would have rejected in the 1980s; the 'leaper' instead of the 'growler' on the steering wheel boss looks crass, as does the whole wheel; the auto gear shifter looks like something a games console maker would reject as being too childish, the triangular piece on the passenger side of the centre console looks a joke, like some cringing affectation to be a wannabe Audi TT.

The whole thing looks like a person who would be desperately trying to show they're still sporty and young, by buying what they think are the latest 'in' bits, but only comes across as a sad tosser, trying to recapture his long gone youth.

The fact is Jaguar can't hide it's still just essentially a five inches cut from the wheelbase, outdated, grand touring barge XK, with a Miami Beach retirement complex special slusher auto gearbox, and a tarted up old XK instrument panel, with even dreadful orange!!! flappy paddles. Trying way too hard. It's like Joan Rivers trying to pass herself off as next year's new hot model.

Other than that, I think it's fabuluous. Which no doubt the octogenarian retired physicians in Florida will be saying as they drool - literally - over the faux swede "sporty" steering wheel, and wet themselves with incontinent excitement - literally - over the fine English Connolly leather "sporty" bucket seats.

Sad car, for sad tossers.

 

[Nexus]

It's interesting that they put the seat controls on the door, that is kind of a Mercedes trademark.

 

[Deckhook]

@Kilcrohane

So I take it you aren't that impressed. LOL.

 

[Deckhook]

Would like to see its interior in some contrasting colour other than this black as coal here.

 

[Gianclaudio]

The interior is very Aston Martin in my opinion. Compared to its main rivals (6er, SL, Maserati) it's by far the most appealing looking which in this type of car has to be one of the most important requirements.

I'm sorry Deckhood, but interior wise the SL and 6er are waaaay nicer looking and exterior wise, the 6er and Maserati are nicer too.
Don't get me wrong, it's a nice car, but IMO still not comparable to the beauty of a 6er and nowhere the Maserati

 

[Giannis]

As nice looking as this Shaguar is.

 

[Centurion]

- but Aston Martin interiors are so antiquated they have to be carbon dated. Ah, I see what you mean.

Seriously people, the 'new' steering wheel looks gash. The climate control knobs look like something Amstrad would have rejected in the 1980s; the 'leaper' instead of the 'growler' on the steering wheel boss looks crass, as does the whole wheel; the auto gear shifter looks like something a games console maker would reject as being too childish, the triangular piece on the passenger side of the centre console looks a joke, like some cringing affectation to be a wannabe Audi TT.

The whole thing looks like a person who would be desperately trying to show they're still sporty and young, by buying what they think are the latest 'in' bits, but only comes across as a sad tosser, trying to recapture his long gone youth.

The fact is Jaguar can't hide it's still just essentially a five inches cut from the wheelbase, outdated, grand touring barge XK, with a Miami Beach retirement complex special slusher auto gearbox, and a tarted up old XK instrument panel, with even dreadful orange!!! flappy paddles. Trying way too hard. It's like Joan Rivers trying to pass herself off as next year's new hot model.

Other than that, I think it's fabuluous. Which no doubt the octogenarian retired physicians in Florida will be saying as they drool - literally - over the faux swede "sporty" steering wheel, and wet themselves with incontinent excitement - literally - over the fine English Connolly leather "sporty" bucket seats.

Sad car, for sad tossers.

I think you're being too harsh. Jaguar has taken leaps and bounds to reinvent themselves and have done so rather well with XF and this F-Type is more youthful than we've ever seen a Jaguar in the past. This is not for the obvious Morgan Stanley mid-executives but a sports car for enthusiasts alike. I not the biggest Jaguar fan myself but the Black F-Type is exceptionally cool, perhaps even more so than the borderline outdated Vantage.

 

[Merc1]

Why do some here think this is a SL or 6-Series competitor? This is supposed to be a sports car, a sort of in between Boxster S and 911 rival, not a SL or 6er.

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