F-Type [Official] Jaguar F-Type

[Deckhook]

^Its odd to gamble with potential sales in such a way but if that's what they say they have done then it must be true, or at the very least PR talking.

I just feel that when you compare stats between the F-type and 911 you can clearly see that weight is the fundamental difference that will define how each car will ultimately perform. I am of the opinion (rightly or wrong) that to make a heavier car handle like a lighter one the suspension needs beefing up to the point that ride suffers which regardless of what their PR comment states I doubt they would take it to such an extreme as to let the ride quality suffer to such an extent.

Where as the Viper is awful on the road but performs on the track I reckon the opposite is true for the F-type.

 

[Kilcrohane]

^ Excellent, fact-based rebuttal, Guibo, to the ridiculous notion that Jaguar's high-ups never meant the F-Type to be portrayed as an out-an-out sports car. They and their media lackeys have being doing nothing but that, shouting form the rooftops that the F-Type was to be a genuine sports car, and a "Porsche 911 killer" at a lower price, since almost two years ago, way before the actual launch.

The stupid sods have been hoist by their own petard. They probably thought the power of a compliant, toadying media would be enough to paper over the cracks of a massively overweight, old, cut-and-shut platform, like they got away with, with the Evoque, 'new' Range Rover and 'new' R/R Sport before.

Perhaps if JLR spent less money paying the likes of Daniel Craig, Land del Rey, and Damian Lewis millions of dollars to promote their mutton dressed up as lamb products to gullible saps, and instead spent some of that money on actual engineering of NEW, from the bottom up products, they might start to get some respect from their peers.

 

[Deckhook]

2013 Jaguar F-type V6 S review

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The Jaguar F-type is finally here. We review the 375bhp supercharged V6 S - the best all-rounder?

What is it?

The Jaguar F-type V6 S, the middle-ranking version of one of the most long awaited, eagerly anticipated British sports cars ever. It’s priced from £67,520.

Technical highlights?

At this F-type’s heart is a supercharged 3-litre V6 engine, possessing 375bhp and 339lb ft – figures up 40bhp and 7lb ft over the base F-type and the XF and XJ 3.0 S/C petrol saloons which also use this engine. Driving the rear wheels via the eight-speed ZF automatic gearbox that has proved so bewitching in other applications, this F-type V6 S completes 0-60 in 4.8sec on its way to an electronically limited 171mph top speed.

Other highlights include a proper mechanical limited-slip differential (the top spec F-type V8 S uses an electronically controlled setup), a faster steering rack than the Jaguar XKR and a stability control system with a more lenient track mode.

What’s it like to drive?

The first thing you notice is the steering. It’s fairly light but it’s very direct, especially compared to other Jaguars, and it’s curiously reminiscent of a Ferrari 458 Italia or F12 Berlinetta. Happily, the rest of the car can keep up, the chassis responding to your inputs with alacrity, feeling taut and agile. Everything is very precise and as a result you have a huge amount of confidence on turn-in to corners.

You seem to make one initial dart into a corner with the steering and then concentrate on driving through with the rear wheels, which feels very natural. With the drivetrain and damping in ‘Dynamic’ mode and the DSC slackened to ‘Track’ (or switched it off altogether) the F-type’s tail will happily step out of line; it’s fun and the quick steering makes it easy to catch and hold, with the car still driving forwards using its mechanical limited-slip differential to good effect, but you need to be on your toes.

The engine is very strong, almost feeling naturally aspirated in its throttle response and broad torque range (the punchy 339lb ft maximum is available between 3500 and 5000rpm) while the eight-speed automatic transmission almost feels like it has sprint gearing. It’s hard to avoid needlessly shuffling between the gears at times, but the tactile rubber-lined steering wheel paddles (which are also copper coloured) plus very vocal parps on upshifts and pops and crackles on downshifts make it all a very interactive experience. Whether you hang onto your gears or not, this is a quick car.

How does it compare?

This F-type V6 S’s most natural rival is the Porsche 911 Carrera Cabriolet, with a 345bhp 3.4-litre flat-six engine, 178mph top speed and a bulkier £81,727 price tag. It also has the option of seven-speed manual or twin-clutch paddle-shift gearboxes. Find out how they compare exactly in issue 183 of evo – on sale Wednesday April 24.

Anything else I need to know?

The 335bhp F-type V6 costs £58,520, while the range-topping 488bhp supercharged V8 S costs £79,985. And the Jaguar F-type roadster is just the beginning – a coupe version, previewed by the sexy C-X16 concept car in 2011, is on the horizon, as (we suspect) are sportier R and R-S variants.
For an alternative review of the latest Jaguar XKR visit our sister site carbuyer.co.uk

 

[Deckhook]

Well f#@k and colour me pink, EVO's opinion of the F-type is exceedingly high. Maybe they too are on Jaguar's payroll...... what do you think Agent K.

 

[Betty Swollocks]

Well f#@k and colour me pink, EVO's opinion of the F-type is exceedingly high. Maybe they too are on Jaguar's payroll...... what do you think Agent K.

I don't think there's any point in even engaging Kilcrohane, which is why he's on my ignore list. He clearly has an agenda and it's also why he has been banned from various forums.

 

[Deckhook]

I don't think there's any point in even engaging Kilcrohane, which is why he's on my ignore list. He clearly has an agenda and it's also why he has been banned from various forums.

I didn't know that.... which ones and are they all JLR related?

 

[Pedro Alexandre]

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[ffforever]

I don't think Jaguar set out to outdo Porsche, I guess F type appeals to a more GT market. It helps that it is a very handsome looking car. A bit of patriotism is inevitable I guess, it happens everywhere...although Jaguar isn't British owned anymore..

 

[Betty Swollocks]

I didn't know that.... which ones and are they all JLR related?

He's been banned from the Autocar site (no surprise there) and several swinging and BDSM sites.

Oh, and before anybody complains this is libellous, Kilcrohane has been libelling Autocar and its writers on a daily basis saying they're lying, and accepting bribes to write good reviews. The sooner this clown is banned from here the better.

 

[klier]

Well f#@k and colour me pink, EVO's opinion of the F-type is exceedingly high. Maybe they too are on Jaguar's payroll...... what do you think Agent K.

They're English, that's enough most of the time...

 

[SCOTT27]

They're English, that's enough most of the time...

It was interesting because at Shanghai there was a UK publication criticising BMWs focus on SAVs for a video segment against Jaguar and their focus on sports cars over SUVs , till a little later Jaguar/ Land Rover personnel were all over the X4 and analysts admitting that Jaguar needs an SUV if it is to increase sales and profits... Go Figure.

 

[Betty Swollocks]

It was interesting because at Shanghai there was a UK publication criticising BMWs focus on SAVs for a video segment against Jaguar and their focus on sports cars over SUVs , till a little later Jaguar/ Land Rover personnel were all over the X4 and analysts admitting that Jaguar needs an SUV if it is to increase sales and profits... Go Figure.

I quote you......

But we will get to see an X2 , as BMW plans to have an X model in each model line

It might be the fact that BMW currently has FOUR SUV's for sale followed by a shortly to be launched FIFTH model in the X4, and a SIXTH in the X2 and Jaguar has ZERO SUV's for sale. At the same time it's possible to buy an X5 M, and X6 M, a two-tonne M5, an almost two-tonne M6, yet it's not possible to buy a Z4 M.

I'd say the criticism that BMW was FOCUSING* too much on SUV's and not sports cars is a valid point.

* remember the word "focusing". Not that BMW shouldn't build SUV's. Just that they're FOCUSING too much on them.

 

[Deckhook]

Agreed Betty, proper 2 seater sportscars with real bite is something BMW are lacking in. But is there much profit to be made there because there sure with SUVs and that's to thing you need to remember.

 

[Betty Swollocks]

Agreed Betty, proper 2 seater sportscars with real bite is something BMW are lacking in. But is there much profit to be made there because there sure with SUVs and that's to thing you need to remember.

I don't have to "remember" anything. I'm not questioning BMW's decisions. I'm responding to Scott's assertion that a certain UK car mag are being hypocrites by saying BMW are focusing TOO MUCH on SUV's and not enough on sports cars. With possibly 6 SUV's in the line up and very few genuine sports cars (maybe the M135i is the closest they have at the moment), there is nothing wrong with that point.

 

[SCOTT27]

I don't have to "remember" anything. I'm not questioning BMW's decisions. I'm responding to Scott's assertion that a certain UK car mag are being hypocrites by saying BMW are focusing TOO MUCH on SUV's and not enough on sports cars. With possibly 6 SUV's in the line up and very few genuine sports cars (maybe the M135i is the closest they have at the moment), there is nothing wrong with that point.

You are quite right, but lets not kid ourselves it is known in the industry that Jaguar plan to use the Évoque platform as well as the Range Rover Sport platform for compact , mid and large sized SUVs due to further demand for SUVs so they probably become like the rest of us by the end of this decade?

 

[Guibo]

I don't think Jaguar set out to outdo Porsche, I guess F type appeals to a more GT market. It helps that it is a very handsome looking car. A bit of patriotism is inevitable I guess, it happens everywhere...although Jaguar isn't British owned anymore..

Agreed. I'm still not seeing any evidence that Jaguar set out to build a "Porsche killer." I would personally look at both cars before buying. "Handsome" is right. I find it attractive in a way the rear- or mid-engined Porsches aren't; front-engined GTs styled right seem to have an innate elegance to them.

 

[Betty Swollocks]

You are quite right, but lets not kid ourselves it is known in the industry that Jaguar plan to use the Évoque platform as well as the Range Rover Sport platform for compact , mid and large sized SUVs due to further demand for SUVs so they probably become like the rest of us by the end of this decade?

Maybe they will Scott.

I won't lose sleep over it as I don't particularly care for Jaguar at all. BMW are my favourite manufacturer. If six SUV's help BMW grow and allow them to build exotic sports cars, then great. I'm still waiting for those though.

 

[Kilcrohane]

Autoblog finally features the Tiff Needell, Evo video of the "911 Killer" F-Type being, er, killed by a base 911 Cabriolet:

http://www.autoblog.com/2013/04/24/jaguar-f-type-pitted-against-porsche-911-cabriolet-by-tiff-neede/

Poor Jonathon Ramsey, the A/blog hack, can't come out and say it that the F-type is smashed by the 911, and even tries to hide the F-type's lard by quoting the base F-type's weight, not the tested 'S' model - sneaky - but typical of such hacks.

Read some, most, of the comments to see hilariously how the shills/trolls struggle in vain with spinning this huge PR hit to Jag's "911 Killer" F-type campaign.

Tiff Needell has totally discredited the F-type as a sports car, just as he did with the similarly pompous "automotive perfection" MP4-12C. Bravo Tiff!

 

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