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2:38.62 at VIR

Ford Accidentally Set a Lap Record With the GT at VIR

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A few months ago, Ford lent out one of its pre-production GTs for track testing, but it unfortunately suffered some mechanical issues. To figure out what was wrong, Ford sent that car, a different pre-pro GT, and racer/development driver Billy Johnson to Virginia International Raceway (VIR) for some testing. Oh and while they were there, Johnson set a lap record.

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Johnson ran a 2:38.62 around VIR's Grand Course layout, which handily beat the previous production-car record, the Dodge Viper ACR's 2:40.02. Amazing, considering the whole affair wasn't a pre-planned lap-record attempt.

"It was a last minute deal," Johnson told Road & Track. "I think I had a two-day notice before I was on a plane to go up [to VIR]. It was to validate an issue with another car...We just happened to turn a fast time when we were testing something else."

Johnson notes that the GT he drove at VIR wasn't even the ideal spec for setting a record—it wasn't a Competition Series car, which comes with an A/C delete, among other weight-saving features. The record-setting GT also lacked the optional titanium exhaust, which also saves a few pounds.

Only three people from Ford, including Johnson, were on hand at VIR when the record was set. Ideally, a lap-record attempt would happen after a race weekend when there's more rubber on the track (and thus, more grip), and you'd have a whole support crew too.

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But don't think Ford had the deck stacked against it. Johnson, for his part, races the GT in the World Endurance Championship (WEC), and played a role in developing both the road and race versions of the car. He's more than a little familiar with the GT.

And don't forget, the Ford GT is more like a race car than anything else you can register. When you put the GT in its Track mode, the car lowers by 50mm and its suspension is put in its stiffest setting. This makes it a monster on road courses like VIR, according to Ford Performance boss Jamal Hameedi.

"The tracks that kind of play to the strengths of the car are faster tracks with higher-speed corners," Hameedi told Road & Track. "Those really bring out the advanced chassis and aero of the car."

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But don't expect the GT to follow in the Viper ACR's footsteps and set more lap-records just for the sake of it. "We've got new cars to work on," Hameedi said
 
Anybody else get disappointed when special cars are specced in boring, unimaginative specs? . It know it's complete discretionary, but still..
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The Ford GT looks like nothing else on the road, so it is a shame that the performance doesn't match the styling.

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The Ford GT looks like nothing else on the road, so it is a shame that the performance doesn't match the styling.

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I'm waiting for the crazy guy who'll retrofit the Ford 6.2L V8 or the 5.4L V8 from the 2005-06 GT and give it some real muscle. As amazing as it looks, it's not a dream car like the 05-06 GT.
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With an upgraded supercharger and modern tires, I'd be will to wager the last GT would embarrass the new one in a straight line and on the track, while being much more comfortable.
 
^I am of the opposite view - didn't care too much for the previous GT, since the stying was just of a rip off of the original GT40, without much thought, and minus it's racing ethos. The new one seems to get that right - design a race car and sell a street version.

Performance is short compared to what is out now (720s, 488, GT2 RS), but it is not slow, and 5 years down when every car from now will be slow compared to what is the out then. What will matter then is the character and a racing pedigree and of course exclusivity.

ps. Admit, "Ecoboost" doesn't help
 
^I am of the opposite view - didn't care too much for the previous GT, since the stying was just of a rip off of the original GT40, without much thought, and minus it's racing ethos. The new one seems to get that right - design a race car and sell a street version.

Performance is short compared to what is out now (720s, 488, GT2 RS), but it is not slow, and 5 years down when every car from now will be slow compared to what is the out then. What will matter then is the character and a racing pedigree and of course exclusivity.

ps. Admit, "Ecoboost" doesn't help

That's an interesting prespective. I'm a huge fan of the last one and considering one.

Don't forget the last Matech GT1 was a very successful race car. Some teams ran theirs for 5-6 years, so lots of racing pedigree.
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I forgot the porky Murcielago was also a very respectable racer.
 
I believe that Ford had a different philosophy this time, as they wanted a race car to participate in GT racing, but the regulations of the class require the manufacturer to have a production road car to form the basis of the race car. Ford found some loopholes and did it the other way around by building a race car and then turn it into a road car.

Since its introduction, the racing version was / still a very strong player because essentially it's a purpose-built racing prototype disguised as regular street supercar. Maybe that's why Ford didn't care to make the road version the quickest car on the block as its purpose is to fulfill the racing requirements.

This Ford GT is similar to these cars in principle:

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I believe that Ford had a different philosophy this time, as they wanted a race car to participate in GT racing, but the regulations of the class require the manufacturer to have a production road car to form the basis of the race car. Ford found some loopholes and did it the other way around by building a race car and then turn it into a road car.

Since its introduction, the racing version was / still a very strong player because essentially it's a purpose-built racing prototype disguised as regular street supercar. Maybe that's why Ford didn't care to make the road version the quickest car on the block as its purpose is to fulfill the racing requirements.
How is the Ford GT race car measuring up to other race cars which is converted from the road version? IMO a road car which is based from a race car should be the quickest on the track, why shouldn't it be if track racing is designed into the car.
 
How is the Ford GT race car measuring up to other race cars which is converted from the road version? IMO a road car which is based from a race car should be the quickest on the track, why shouldn't it be if track racing is designed into the car.
For the race car, the Ford GT is at its best in the corners due to its high downforce package (assuming cars have the same tyre compound), and the compromise is a lower top speed, but overall the car is very strong, as it won 24 hours of Le Mans in 2016 and won Daytona 24 in 2017 and 2018. However, there is a number of factors that determines how the car performs in a racing series.

GTE cars (where Ford participates with the GT) are built to a certain rulebook, and among the things that I know, the engines cannot rev more than 6500~7000 RPM. Each manufacturer can acquire a number of waivers to optimize the performance of their car, and then there is the Balance of Performance (BoP) rule, where each car is given a set of modifications that either gives a performance advantage or restricts it, in order to provide a "fair" competition. This BoP generates controversy, but I won't discuss it in order not to take things off topic. In general, race cars are highly adjustable so the performance may vary from a track to another, and from a championship to another.

I think that labeling the GT as underperforming is relative. If it's related to acceleration, it is possible that Ford didn't calibrate the launch control or whatever mechanism available optimally. GTE cars don't use any of the electronic aids such as ABS, stability control or traction control systems, and they are not the best machines for acceleration due to the limitations mentioned above. In the test of Motor Trend, the GT was slower compared to the Huracan Performante (superior AWD traction) or the McLaren 720S (lighter and more powerful), and I assume that both cars have a better optimized traction control compared to the Ford.

In terms of the track performance and laptimes, it depends on the track layout, the conditions and on how confident and comfortable the driver feels when driving the car at its maximum. Motor Trend used Big Willow for the test and the Ford came in last, while Car and Driver used Virginia International Raceway and the car was quicker than the Porsche 918. I didn't read the whole articles so I don't know how the car behaved on track.

There hasn't been any direct test comparison with measured performance and statistics at the moment for the GT (as far as I know) so whenever there will be one, things will be more clear and understandable. But even if the GT will be considered as underperforming, the car is a winner because it has won true trophies, and it'll be a better future classic compared to the McLaren or the Lamborghini that will probably have successors which is unlikely for the Ford, but you never know. This is my personal assumption, so you may see things differently.

Excuse the long post :)
 
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Regarding Cena's case, it seems Ford lawyers dropped the ball and forgot to put a lien on the title. Also, it's possible he registered the car under an LLC and sold it.
 
Honestly, even in person the sound is not that different from any GTR with an exhaust. Lots of turbo spool noises though. That thing is glued to the road, pretty remarkable.
 
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