Beats the piss out of anything the Italians, Germans or British are doing, in my humble opinion.
kiki voinea
Cornering Connoisseur
Honestly , looking at what US manufacturers threw in the last years VS what german manufacturers got out....
US FTW
But my guess is that DE is looking more East than West.
Bridster
Oversteer Expert
Unless we are talking about visuals, the car came out within a year of the 720S, has -70PS, weighs +120kg despite only using a V6, is slower in straight line and on track, and has zero practicality or road usability with cramped cockpit and no luggage space. I think that just calling it mediocre would be pretty generous.
Centurion
Apex Apex Predator
The Ford doesn't photograph as well because the design is very familiar. However in person it's like a squashed jet fighter on wheels. It's actually a touch shorter than an Aventador.
Centurion
Apex Apex Predator
Ford should have made a convertible to make getting in and out easier.
Convertible:
Coupe:
Primarily yes, I am talking about the visuals, but the fact is that in any operational scenario that involves me driving it, pretty much any shortfall on the Top Trumps stats are irrelevant.
Tourbillon
Cornering Kingpin
Have you driven a McLaren or 720S? I haven't but I know those who have, and they are VERY highly regarded.
Comfortable, well specified and the ride is apparently quite remarkable, very. It's reasonably practical too.
To be honest Top Trumps is the icing. Not the cake. And procurement or price wise. Massive difference. But I guess it's more "exotic" because of build rates in comparison.
Interesting.
Nope not driven one, but I'm sure they are very good cars.
These may well all be the case, but again, in any real world scenario where I'm the one driving it and using it, the differences will more than likely be trivial - or at the very least negated by the fact the GT looks ten times better than the 720 (looks wise, the 675LT is the sweet spot for Mclaren in my personal opinion). If I'm factoring in reasonable practicality and ride comfort as a priority, I'm buying neither. Your mileage may vary.
Well, obviously the chances of seeing a GT are much smaller, but generally speaking I don't see that many Mclarens on the road either, but for me it's not the build rates, it's why they built them.
bmwz4coupe
Subscriber
Racing pedigree…?
Building a car to win at Le Mans, that commemorates the success of another car you built to win at Le Mans, in both cases being successful... when building supercars isn't what you actually do, and genuinely running a product that is pretty close to what you sell (zero waivers to race unlike basically all the other cars, when by comparison a 720S GT3 is 90% different to the road car by Mclaren's own admission).
Obviously I'm aware that Mclaren has a ton of racing heritage, but the fact is they're going to push out iteratively developed super cars year in, year out, whether they go racing or not, and more often than not, they don't, and when they do, they're not that successful.
... that's not say that the Mclarens are in any way bad cars, but it's a big chunk of the appeal for me personally. I'd suggest that without its Le Mans, and GT racing wins, the Mclaren F1 would not be as fondly remembered. It matters.
Tourbillon
Cornering Kingpin
hoffmeister_fan
Kraftwagen König
Really like this spec.
Tourbillon
Cornering Kingpin
Last one. It' "gone" too.
A spectacular car, after the first one they made "hommage" I thought they were throwing in the towel, to appear with this genius, it was difficult task to design and they managed to make another supercar and it also sold out, VW's dream with at least a couple of concepts Ford makes it a reality and maybe in a few years a third GT will come in EV version
Tourbillon
Cornering Kingpin
Ford CEO Jim Farley says the V6-engined GT was never meant to happen!
Blue Oval bosses originally wanted a Mustang racecar to win the GT class at Le Mans in 2016!
You know the story by now. It was coming up to the 50th anniversary of Ford’s first ever Le Mans win – that famous triumph for Bruce McLaren and Chris Amon in the GT40 MkII – and of course the company wanted to honour that moment in history.
As a result, Ford and Multimatic teamed up to build the all-conquering, twin-turbo V6-engined Ford GT, which won the LM GTE-Pro class in 2016 and would then go on to make production as a road car.
Examples of that GT road car now frequently change hands for many millions of dollars at auction, but did you know that it was never actually meant to see the light of day?
We’re serious. Ford CEO Jim Farley let slip at the recent unveil of the Mustang GTD that the plan was never to build another modern-day GT, and that it was the Mustang that was supposed to win Le Mans in 2016.
UK?
This 1937 Mercedes 540K won best in show at the Pebble Beach Concours d'Elegance
“When we decided to make Mustang global – to sell it around the world in left- and right-hand drive – for the previous generation, we knew the 50th anniversary of the Le Mans win was coming up,” said Farley.
“We started to talk inside the company about winning Le Mans with the Mustang.
“Larry Holt and Multimatic were the easy choice for us. And we went around talking to the sanctioning bodies like IMSA about what it would take for a Mustang to win. Multimatic started doing a lot of simulation, and it became clear that we couldn't really win with the silhouette of a Mustang. We would be too dependent on the ACO and the French regulators.”
Blimey. It could have all been so different.
“We decided at that time to take a totally left turn with Multimatic and Larry's technical leadership,” admits Farley. “And we designed the Ford GT. But the original idea was never to have a new GT. We wanted to win Le Mans with the Mustang.”
That’s not to say that the GT project ended up being a rather large win for Ford. “GT's been very successful,” said Farley. “We're really happy with the car. It's sold well. But, you may remember, we raced the car before we sold the road car. Which was a feat in itself.”
“It just took some talking to the ACO,” says Holt. We can only imagine how those conversations played out.
And yet, we ended up in a situation that gave us both the brilliantly bonkers GT and (now that the rules are set to change in 2024) a proper GT3-spec racing Mustang built by Multimatic that will compete at the famous French endurance race. Whether it can hit the ground running like the old GT remains to be seen…"
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Blue Oval bosses originally wanted a Mustang racecar to win the GT class at Le Mans in 2016!
You know the story by now. It was coming up to the 50th anniversary of Ford’s first ever Le Mans win – that famous triumph for Bruce McLaren and Chris Amon in the GT40 MkII – and of course the company wanted to honour that moment in history.
As a result, Ford and Multimatic teamed up to build the all-conquering, twin-turbo V6-engined Ford GT, which won the LM GTE-Pro class in 2016 and would then go on to make production as a road car.
Examples of that GT road car now frequently change hands for many millions of dollars at auction, but did you know that it was never actually meant to see the light of day?
We’re serious. Ford CEO Jim Farley let slip at the recent unveil of the Mustang GTD that the plan was never to build another modern-day GT, and that it was the Mustang that was supposed to win Le Mans in 2016.
UK?
This 1937 Mercedes 540K won best in show at the Pebble Beach Concours d'Elegance
“When we decided to make Mustang global – to sell it around the world in left- and right-hand drive – for the previous generation, we knew the 50th anniversary of the Le Mans win was coming up,” said Farley.
“We started to talk inside the company about winning Le Mans with the Mustang.
“Larry Holt and Multimatic were the easy choice for us. And we went around talking to the sanctioning bodies like IMSA about what it would take for a Mustang to win. Multimatic started doing a lot of simulation, and it became clear that we couldn't really win with the silhouette of a Mustang. We would be too dependent on the ACO and the French regulators.”
Blimey. It could have all been so different.
“We decided at that time to take a totally left turn with Multimatic and Larry's technical leadership,” admits Farley. “And we designed the Ford GT. But the original idea was never to have a new GT. We wanted to win Le Mans with the Mustang.”
That’s not to say that the GT project ended up being a rather large win for Ford. “GT's been very successful,” said Farley. “We're really happy with the car. It's sold well. But, you may remember, we raced the car before we sold the road car. Which was a feat in itself.”
“It just took some talking to the ACO,” says Holt. We can only imagine how those conversations played out.
And yet, we ended up in a situation that gave us both the brilliantly bonkers GT and (now that the rules are set to change in 2024) a proper GT3-spec racing Mustang built by Multimatic that will compete at the famous French endurance race. Whether it can hit the ground running like the old GT remains to be seen…"
Ford CEO Jim Farley says the V6-engined GT was never meant to happen
Blue Oval bosses originally wanted a Mustang racecar to win the GT class at Le Mans in 2016
Revvd
Oversteer Expert
MkIV officially unveiled. I hope more specs are to be revealed, because so far they only told us power levels of the switchable engine maps: 500, 700, 800 HP and downforce: 2,400 lb @ 150 mph (1,182 kg @ 250 kph).
Also, this was said:
Also, this was said:
I'm guessing it's gonna have to be well under 1,000 kg for that to be true.
StartYourEngines
Tarmac Traveler
Actually it may not be necessary.
Some of the post-2010 LMP2 race cars should roughly generate their own weight in downforce around 240-245 km/h.
This is producing 1089 kg at 241 km/h, so it could very well weigh around 1100 kg (kerb) and nicely fitting both the required speed range and its LMP2-like pace claim.
Then, we should however consider that the track pace of LMP2 cars changed quite a bit during the last 10 years or so. For example, with the introduction of the LMH top class (with cars much slower than previous, latest era LMP1-H race machines) LMP2 cars got slowed down on purpose by limiting their downforce.
So, I suspect the comparison which is being made here between the MKIV and LMP2 is probably taking into account the latest iteration of the latter class.
Nevertheless, this is quite an achievement for the Ford GT, because at the end this is a track version of a road car which was pushed to reach sport prototypes level of performance, apparently far exceeding even the level of GT3 and LM-GTE race cars.
So not bad at all.
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