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[Monster]

I disagree. The LaFerrari looks like a 458 and an F12 mated and put on steriods. Its rims are also super dull. There is nothing original about it the way the Enzo was. The P1 is much more original and far better looking from all angles. I think the Huayra looks better too in fact.

Is it such a bad thing if the LaFerrari take design elements from the 458 and the F12? They are both fantastic looking cars, and Ferrari did say LaFerrari is the combination of the best of the best of everything they are doing right now.

 

[Monster]

Call me a pessimist but I'm not convinced KERS is 100% reliable in production form where it has to work day in day out 24/7, especially if the Red Bull's KERS experience is typical of the breed.

That is just down to RedBull and the design/packaging of their car. Redbull uses Renault's KERS system, and the Lotus/Renault cars have far better reliability than the RedBull, also Ferrari rarely had any KERS related issues throughout last year. Look at the Audi R18 E-tron which won LeMans last year, their KERs system was functioning fine after 24 hour of continuous hard racing.

 

[lambornima]

Is it such a bad thing if the LaFerrari take design elements from the 458 and the F12? They are both fantastic looking cars, and Ferrari did say LaFerrari is the combination of the best of the best of everything they are doing right now.

I think so. I feel that the Enzo was much more different than what Ferrari was offering at the time. For a car of its stature I think it needs to look the part. The Veneno (even if you don't like it) doesn't look like anything else Lambo offers despite being based on another one of their products! The P1 also doesnt look anything like the MP4.

 

[Sunny]

That is just down to RedBull and the design/packaging of their car. Redbull uses Renault's KERS system, and the Lotus/Renault cars have far better reliability than the RedBull, also Ferrari rarely had any KERS related issues throughout last year. Look at the Audi R18 E-tron which won LeMans last year, their KERs system was functioning fine after 24 hour of continuous hard racing.

What is harebrained and utterly idiotic is the logic of using a certain technology's reliability in F1 where things are pushed to the nth degree as having any bearing on it's suitability on the street. Even in the 90s engines were regularly grenading every few races, so by this standard we shouldn't be using ICEs in our cars either.

 

[Levi68]

I disagree. The LaFerrari looks like a 458 and an F12 mated and put on steriods. Its rims are also super dull. There is nothing original about it the way the Enzo was. The P1 is much more original and far better looking from all angles. I think the Huayra looks better too in fact.

I can't take you agruments/opinions seriously anymore. I have the feeling all you do is bash/critcise the Ferrari, because nobody of us liked the Vometo. Well for by respect I'll say Veneno.

 

[Deckhook]

That is just down to RedBull and the design/packaging of their car. Redbull uses Renault's KERS system, and the Lotus/Renault cars have far better reliability than the RedBull, also Ferrari rarely had any KERS related issues throughout last year. Look at the Audi R18 E-tron which won LeMans last year, their KERs system was functioning fine after 24 hour of continuous hard racing.

Yeah all I'm saying is that I'm not entirely convinced these systems are 100% reliable and unfortunately the only experience we have of them is in race conditions which I will concede with Sunny aren't exactly the same as day to day being much more extreme.

I suppose when you are at the pinnacle which hypercars are then it will always be technology driven.

 

[klier]

^ they should have called you about the KERS system. If Deckhook is not convinced they shouldn't have put it on!!

 

[LaArtist]

@klier A bit late but here you go:

 

[Giannis]

I have a question. What's the difference between KERS and DRS? I stopped following F1 many years ago...

 

[sako97]

Probably one of the best shots of LaFerrari so far:

It really captures the car in perspective. BTW, it looks like Gordon Murray in the background.

I recommend looking at the superb gallery of Geneva 2013 by Athromobiles:
http://arthomobiles.fr/Salon Geneve 13/geneve13.htm

 

[Mafalda]

I have a question. What's the difference between KERS and DRS? I stopped following F1 many years ago...

KERS : kinetic energy recovery system (...or something like this ) = extra-boost from eletric engine
DRS = mobile rear wing to go faster when in straight line

 

[LaArtist]

I have a question. What's the difference between KERS and DRS? I stopped following F1 many years ago...

KERS ..is a kenetic energy recovery system.. that harnesses the energy from the heat off the brakes to boost the electric engine.

DRS is a drag reduction system where the aero on the car alters itself to reduced drag on straights when as much downforce is not needed as when cornering..

Thats it more or less..

For more details:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinetic_energy_recovery_system
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drag_reduction_system

 

[Mafalda]

PZERO Corsa, ho yeah!!!

 

[DjordjeC63]

Forza Ferrari!

 

[klier]

My GOOOOOOOODDDDD

 

[Tarek]

That car and the F12..damn you Ferrari!!

 

[Levi68]

Gorgeous looking. I just have no words. This car is not only probably the fastest ever built, but also the most beautiful. Anybody saying it looks like any other Ferrari and is not different enough is just lying.

 

[lambornima]

I can't take you agruments/opinions seriously anymore. I have the feeling all you do is bash/critcise the Ferrari, because nobody of us liked the Vometo. Well for by respect I'll say Veneno.

Well then that's your problem, not mine. I never said it looked bad (though I think the nose it a bit too long), I just said it looked like too much of a blend of the other Ferrari's right now which shouldn't be the case with their halo car (the Aventador actually received this criticism compared with the LP560).

And if you can't take someone's opinion because it contrasts with yours then, again, that's your problem. Plus I didn't even mention the Veneno. I'm comparing the Ferrari with its main competitor the P1. Don't worry though I think the LaFerrari looks like a beauty queen next to the 918.

 

[Levi68]

The Aventador actually received this criticism compared with the LP560.

I don't remember about that. But I wonder who said that, they look soooooo different, and both good, of course the Aventador much better, I would expect less from a more expensive and halo car. The Aventador is recognisably and beautifylly Lambo, can't say that about the Veneno. Well I'll this discussion for the other thread.


I don't think everybody has to like the all cars in the same way. I just want to show how much I like the LaFerrari, because most on GCF know that the only word that comes from my mouth is "LFA".

 

[Sunny]

KERS ..is a kenetic energy recovery system.. that harnesses the energy from the heat off the brakes to boost the electric engine.

Minor correction (actually major correction ) - KERS does not use or recover heat emitted by the brakes. Under braking, a vehicle equipped with KERS, uses it's electric motor as a generator to convert the kinetic energy of the vehicle into electric energy and then store that energy (either in a battery or a flywheel). Of course, driving the electric motor (now functioning as a generator) applies a further decelerative force on the vehicle.