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@martinbo, I am definitely surprised by your glowing reaction. I figured you'd thought that this was a gigantic money-pit vanity project where funds could have been spent elsewere within VW.
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The Bugatti Chiron is a mid-engine two-seater sports car designed and developed in Germany by Bugatti Engineering GmbH. It was manufactured in Molsheim, France, by French automobile manufacturer Bugatti Automobiles S.A.S.. The successor to the Bugatti Veyron, the Chiron was first shown at the Geneva Motor Show on 1 March 2016.
@martinbo, I am definitely surprised by your glowing reaction. I figured you'd thought that this was a gigantic money-pit vanity project where funds could have been spent elsewere within VW.
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The headlights looks a bit weird and so does that rear end, but as a whole the design is breathtaking.
Seriously, this is THE SHIT!
PS. I, too, am gobsmacked by this thing. Nothing near as I was when the LaFerrari/ 918/ P1 trio was front page news.
Seriously, this is THE SHIT!
PS. I, too, am gobsmacked by this thing. Nothing near as I was when the LaFerrari/ 918/ P1 trio was front page news.
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Masterpiece...Best-Car-Ever as expected.
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It's now been a few hours since I got to see the official images, and I do not even know how to get my head around this car really.... Having never developed any sort of sympathy for the Veyron throughout its lifespan of 10+ years, I was somewhat strangely looking forward to this car, but boy oh boy was I unprepared for the sheer intensity of the assault this car brought to my senses... Whether it is the much-improved exterior,or the absolute perfection of an interior, or the mind-bending performance figures; this is possibly the first time I ever see the release of a car, where I simply know it's GAME OVER for any competition others would even dare to throw at it. Veyron was always called the "Concorde moment" for the automotive industry, but I simply cannot help thinking Bugatti have even outdone their usual ridiculously-high standards.... The goalposts are not moved... They have just been obliterated.... All hail the new King!
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I wish Bugatti had done something other than a Veyron 2.0
I understand the business model. No one outside of Koenigsegg cares about absolute HP or top speed so you don't have to worry about much competition and can milk the car for a decade with endless one-offs but it's a tired and outdated concept, especially for this price point. Been there, done that.
I understand the business model. No one outside of Koenigsegg cares about absolute HP or top speed so you don't have to worry about much competition and can milk the car for a decade with endless one-offs but it's a tired and outdated concept, especially for this price point. Been there, done that.
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It appears the Chiron has one-uped the G11 in regards to one-piece metal trim length:
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Gianclaudio
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Meh, lipstick and some Alfa Romeo vibes on the (now even fatter) pig.
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The Bugatti Vader has a cooler grill and more FORCEpower
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It's defintely less roly-poly than the Veyron and more aggressive. However despite some of the interesting details, it just doesn't get me tingling in the naughty bits like the Hypercar Trinity or Paganis do to me. It's still too ponderous whereas the other LaFer et al. are more lithe. I remember going to a car dealer in SoCal some years ago where they had a Veyron and a Carrera GT... I stared at the Veryon for a good 15 minutes absorbing the details, and I felt very little. Whereas I was nearly slobbering and obsessing over the CGT.
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The Chiron is the ultimate villain car in my view. Come to think of it, Wolfgang Durheimer, the CEO of Bugatti, looks a lot like the archetypal Bond villain Max Zorin in the James Bond - a view to a kill - movie.
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I think these days petrol heads are getting a bit nostalgic, the new generation of hybrid hyper cars are here, but for some, they want good old fashion power and torque from a big engine. It just feels more authentic that way. Much like the sports car market lust for manual gearbox and NA engines. Technically they are outdated concepts, but that doesn't make them less desirable.
Plus within the vast VW empire, you can always find a car to suit your needs. There isn't really any purpose for Bugatti to go after the same market as the 918, or the Lamborghini Aventador.
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Ultimately we are all petrol heads, and we are happy to see the Chrion because cars like this might not happen again.
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"Simply outrageous" would be an understatement with regard to this cars´ technical/engineering attributes. In terms of visual appeal, the Chiron is so much more compelling than the Veyron could ever be (in my humble opinion). The more angular rear end works wonders.
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Very true, very true, but I get both sides of the argument though... It's that whole bit where you want to make something and see how far you can push it. Also, though I do wonder what that money could have been spent on... a Ur-Quattro for the new generation? Actually spending a few additional dollars/euros so they wouldn't be in the tarpits they currently in? This is just me thinking out loud... but, sincerely, let's enjoy this impressive technical feat.
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More color combination suggested on the Bugatti Website, including full exposed carbon fiber body panels. There are so many possibilities with the combination of two tone color and the character C shape framing the side window and door opening.
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The Most Entertaining Facts, Figures, and Boasts from the Bugatti Chiron Press Release
February 29, 2016 at 4:28 pm by Alexander Stoklosa
There is nothing subtle about Bugatti’s new Chiron hypercar. How could there be? It has a quad-turbocharged 16-cylinder engine, costs $2.6 million, and boasts a top speed of 261 mph. As you’d expect, the press release for the Chiron is as unsubtle as the car itself, which is wholly appropriate. Press releases for regular cars tend to be overly positive missives, grabbing at all available firsts, superlatives, and best-in-class features. For the Chiron, this posturing is taken to new levels, and Bugatti layers on the braggadocio thicker than Donald Trump in an insecure moment. The Chiron’s press release is so quotable, in fact, that we couldn’t resist dragging a few of its more jaw-dropping factoids and immodest bluster in front of you for fun:
“With the Chiron, Bugatti has made the best even better.”
– As opposed to, you know, making the Chiron worse than the Veyron it replaces.
“The design of the Chiron combines significantly more ‘beast’ with a very high level of ‘beauty.’ ”
– Didn’t Disney make a movie about this?
“Electromagnetic compatibility comparable to that of a military vehicle.”
– This boast isn’t structured very well, but Bugatti is referring to the Chiron’s level of protection against electromagnetic interference.
“More than 60,000 litres [2118 cubic feet] of air per minute are pumped through the engine.”
– Like the Veyron, the Chiron gulps in a ton of air to feed its quad-turbocharged W-16 engine at full whack. Put another way, the Chiron’s engine can ingest roughly half the interior volume of a 53-foot semi-trailer in air per minute.
“The coolant pump is also a very high-performance unit. In one minute, it circulates 800 litres [211 gallons] of water through the entire engine.”
– The Chiron’s cooling system consists of two main circuits, one for the engine and another for the turbochargers’ intercoolers. The engine’s loop holds 9.8 gallons of coolant, all of which passes fully through the engine and three radiators once every three seconds.
“The total active surface of the six converters used for exhaust gas treatment is about 230,266 m², corresponding to the area of more than 30 soccer fields.”
Translated from metric units, that’s 2,478,563 square feet, or roughly the same area as 43 American football fields.
“It goes almost without saying that the Chiron has permanent four-wheel drive.”
– If you didn’t know the Chiron has permanent four-wheel drive, you’re a dummy and a loser.
“If all the [carbon] fibres used in the monocoque were laid out end to end, they would stretch nine times the distance between the earth and the moon.”
– To give you a more grounded idea of how many carbon fibers are utilized in the land-based Chiron’s monocoque, if laid end to end, the fibers would wrap around the Earth more than 86 times.
“Thanks to Bugatti’s outstanding expertise in airbag design, it proved possible to develop an airbag that shoots through a carbon-fibre housing.”
– Airbags deploy through hard housings in most vehicles, notably plastic-dashboard, steering-wheel-hub, and seat covers that are designed with seams that split in specific ways. It’s impressive that Bugatti has figured out how to safely deploy an airbag through carbon fiber. (We do question the use of the verb “shoots” in this particular context, however, given that a large portion of the industry is currently ensnared in the Takata airbag scandal, which involves inflators that could propel shrapnel toward occupants.)
“Thanks to the new asymmetrical design, the brake caliper can dissipate an extraordinary amount of braking energy. It also looks like a small work of art.”
– This story, by the way, is a small work of art.
“ ‘Safety first’ remains Bugatti’s motto.”
– We weren’t aware that this was Bugatti’s motto.
“Ettore Bugatti, whose motto was ‘nothing is too beautiful and nothing is too expensive,’ would certainly have taken pleasure in this example of sheer craftmanship.”
— We’ve heard that, for an undisclosed sum of money, Bugatti will offer customers bespoke motto consistency.
“And of course, all these [HVAC] systems continue to perform reliably even at speeds significantly over 400 km/h [249 mph].”
– Because what’s the point of going 250–261 mph if you can’t do so in air-conditioned comfort?
“Even in the case of the headlamps, Bugatti has not attempted to save high-quality materials, using carbon fibre for the light trims.”
– Bugatti wouldn’t dare risk an opportunity to add ’spensive stuff to its multimillion-dollar hypercar.
“Audio-system connoisseurs will appreciate the use of a one-carat diamond membrane in each of the four tweeters, delivering a crystal-clear sound.”
– This isn’t hyperbolic wordplay on Bugatti’s part—the harder a speaker’s membrane, the clearer and sharper its sound reproduction. Also, do your car’s speakers feature diamonds? We didn’t think so.
“It is almost unsurprising that the [Accuton audio] system can even be adjusted for different interior materials. It is even possible to take different types of leather into consideration.”
— If you can detect the subtle differences in sound deflection off of varying types of leather, you should market your skills to Bugatti for obscene amounts of money—and then use that money to buy a Chiron.
“For the first time, it is possible to stow a suitcase with the size of a cabin trolley approved for air travel (44 litres) in the luggage space of a Bugatti.”
— $2.6 million, and you can fit one whole carry-on bag in the Chiron? Now Bugatti’s customers can finallygive up commercial air travel altogether.
“The interaction of an aluminum trim strip of this size and shape and the carbon-fibre outer skin poses a special challenge, which Bugatti has mastered impressively. This detail alone already demonstrates Bugatti’s ability to facilitate the impossible.”
– Move over Mother Teresa, Bugatti will take over the miracles from here.
“The Bugatti oval is the only component of the Chiron that has not been subjected to the painstaking weight saving programme that is normal practice in the development of a super sports car. This part is allowed to be heavy. The eyecatcher, with a circumference of 26 cm, consists of solid 970 fine silver and enamel and has a total weight of 155 g, including 140 g of silver.”
– From now on, we’ll be excusing our beer guts with the line, “this part is allowed to be heavy.”
February 29, 2016 at 4:28 pm by Alexander Stoklosa
There is nothing subtle about Bugatti’s new Chiron hypercar. How could there be? It has a quad-turbocharged 16-cylinder engine, costs $2.6 million, and boasts a top speed of 261 mph. As you’d expect, the press release for the Chiron is as unsubtle as the car itself, which is wholly appropriate. Press releases for regular cars tend to be overly positive missives, grabbing at all available firsts, superlatives, and best-in-class features. For the Chiron, this posturing is taken to new levels, and Bugatti layers on the braggadocio thicker than Donald Trump in an insecure moment. The Chiron’s press release is so quotable, in fact, that we couldn’t resist dragging a few of its more jaw-dropping factoids and immodest bluster in front of you for fun:
“With the Chiron, Bugatti has made the best even better.”
– As opposed to, you know, making the Chiron worse than the Veyron it replaces.
“The design of the Chiron combines significantly more ‘beast’ with a very high level of ‘beauty.’ ”
– Didn’t Disney make a movie about this?
“Electromagnetic compatibility comparable to that of a military vehicle.”
– This boast isn’t structured very well, but Bugatti is referring to the Chiron’s level of protection against electromagnetic interference.
“More than 60,000 litres [2118 cubic feet] of air per minute are pumped through the engine.”
– Like the Veyron, the Chiron gulps in a ton of air to feed its quad-turbocharged W-16 engine at full whack. Put another way, the Chiron’s engine can ingest roughly half the interior volume of a 53-foot semi-trailer in air per minute.
“The coolant pump is also a very high-performance unit. In one minute, it circulates 800 litres [211 gallons] of water through the entire engine.”
– The Chiron’s cooling system consists of two main circuits, one for the engine and another for the turbochargers’ intercoolers. The engine’s loop holds 9.8 gallons of coolant, all of which passes fully through the engine and three radiators once every three seconds.
“The total active surface of the six converters used for exhaust gas treatment is about 230,266 m², corresponding to the area of more than 30 soccer fields.”
Translated from metric units, that’s 2,478,563 square feet, or roughly the same area as 43 American football fields.
“It goes almost without saying that the Chiron has permanent four-wheel drive.”
– If you didn’t know the Chiron has permanent four-wheel drive, you’re a dummy and a loser.
“If all the [carbon] fibres used in the monocoque were laid out end to end, they would stretch nine times the distance between the earth and the moon.”
– To give you a more grounded idea of how many carbon fibers are utilized in the land-based Chiron’s monocoque, if laid end to end, the fibers would wrap around the Earth more than 86 times.
“Thanks to Bugatti’s outstanding expertise in airbag design, it proved possible to develop an airbag that shoots through a carbon-fibre housing.”
– Airbags deploy through hard housings in most vehicles, notably plastic-dashboard, steering-wheel-hub, and seat covers that are designed with seams that split in specific ways. It’s impressive that Bugatti has figured out how to safely deploy an airbag through carbon fiber. (We do question the use of the verb “shoots” in this particular context, however, given that a large portion of the industry is currently ensnared in the Takata airbag scandal, which involves inflators that could propel shrapnel toward occupants.)
“Thanks to the new asymmetrical design, the brake caliper can dissipate an extraordinary amount of braking energy. It also looks like a small work of art.”
– This story, by the way, is a small work of art.
“ ‘Safety first’ remains Bugatti’s motto.”
– We weren’t aware that this was Bugatti’s motto.
“Ettore Bugatti, whose motto was ‘nothing is too beautiful and nothing is too expensive,’ would certainly have taken pleasure in this example of sheer craftmanship.”
— We’ve heard that, for an undisclosed sum of money, Bugatti will offer customers bespoke motto consistency.
“And of course, all these [HVAC] systems continue to perform reliably even at speeds significantly over 400 km/h [249 mph].”
– Because what’s the point of going 250–261 mph if you can’t do so in air-conditioned comfort?
“Even in the case of the headlamps, Bugatti has not attempted to save high-quality materials, using carbon fibre for the light trims.”
– Bugatti wouldn’t dare risk an opportunity to add ’spensive stuff to its multimillion-dollar hypercar.
“Audio-system connoisseurs will appreciate the use of a one-carat diamond membrane in each of the four tweeters, delivering a crystal-clear sound.”
– This isn’t hyperbolic wordplay on Bugatti’s part—the harder a speaker’s membrane, the clearer and sharper its sound reproduction. Also, do your car’s speakers feature diamonds? We didn’t think so.
“It is almost unsurprising that the [Accuton audio] system can even be adjusted for different interior materials. It is even possible to take different types of leather into consideration.”
— If you can detect the subtle differences in sound deflection off of varying types of leather, you should market your skills to Bugatti for obscene amounts of money—and then use that money to buy a Chiron.
“For the first time, it is possible to stow a suitcase with the size of a cabin trolley approved for air travel (44 litres) in the luggage space of a Bugatti.”
— $2.6 million, and you can fit one whole carry-on bag in the Chiron? Now Bugatti’s customers can finallygive up commercial air travel altogether.
“The interaction of an aluminum trim strip of this size and shape and the carbon-fibre outer skin poses a special challenge, which Bugatti has mastered impressively. This detail alone already demonstrates Bugatti’s ability to facilitate the impossible.”
– Move over Mother Teresa, Bugatti will take over the miracles from here.
“The Bugatti oval is the only component of the Chiron that has not been subjected to the painstaking weight saving programme that is normal practice in the development of a super sports car. This part is allowed to be heavy. The eyecatcher, with a circumference of 26 cm, consists of solid 970 fine silver and enamel and has a total weight of 155 g, including 140 g of silver.”
– From now on, we’ll be excusing our beer guts with the line, “this part is allowed to be heavy.”
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Bugatti Automobiles S.A.S. is a French luxury sports car manufacturer. The company was
founded in 1998 as a subsidiary of the Volkswagen Group and is based in Molsheim, Alsace,
France. The original Bugatti automobile brand was established by Ettore Bugatti (1881-1947)
in 1909 at Molsheim and built sports, racing and luxury cars. In November 2021, the company
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