i8 [Official] BMW i8 World Premiere

[martinbo]

^Oh, me too...

Those are Schnitzer's wheels, right?

Anyway, it looks stunning!

I think it's a full AC Schnitzer exterior kit for the i8. Looks fantastic.

 

[klier]

I dig the spoiler.

 

[PanterroR]

I think it's a full AC Schnitzer exterior kit for the i8. Looks fantastic.

Yeah, yeah, i've noticed that too... Sublime!

I've also seen many i8s with some crazy Vossen wheels that also look amazing... Like this one:

 

[Betty Swollocks]

Kind of defeats the object of buying the i8 as it will affect the fuel consumption. Great looking car, and with proper alloys like those, it looks like the car it could have been. An R8 rival. But at 362hp it's barely a rival for the M240i and costs nearly three times as much.

Low production numbers see BMW declaring it a success, but this is a development car being tested by customers, and at their expense.

 

[klier]

Amazing negative swing to it again, bravo.

 

[Mick Briesgau]

Amazing negative swing to it again, bravo.

No, Klier, it's called reality.

 

[klier]

No, Klier, it's called reality.

No, it's called negativity, and I don't need to hear your opinion regarding the subject, because everything negative towards BMW you applaud too.
It's all down to the way you look at things, and you are happy to see some negative point of view.

Good for you, BTW. I am just happy to point this out.

 

[braaf]

^ No, it is actually called being negative. Unfortunately there are people that can't seem to fathom the concept of progression. It doesn't always have to loud shouty and ridiculous. BMW launched this sub brand with the aim of getting the jump on the competition by developing cars that will one day be the norm on our roads.

Nothing wrong with that.

 

[BMW3GT]

Amazing negative swing to it again, bravo.

It was post "666" in this thread

 

[martinbo]

Look let's not get into another bun fight in an official thread that ought to be consigned to the internal combustion section.

VAG gave Audi the green light to develop the R8 - on a shared sports car platform - solely in order to showcase the marque's sporting aspirations.
The i8 was developed with a different mindset - to showcase BMW's progressive aspirations whilst proving that BMW's sporting heritage can be preserved.

The R8 and i8 may be rivals in terms of price listings but that's where it ends. These are two very different cars with entirely different deliverables.

 

[Mick Briesgau]

Unfortunately there are people that can't seem to fathom the concept of progression.

I'm glad you are so clever that you can.

 

[klier]

It was post "666" in this thread

Aah, that explains everything then, LOL

 

[Zafiro]

Why the dislike about I8. I'm just happy BMW are offering something different unlike any other main stream product coming from BMW. I8 adds something different. I think it would be cool to see a future M version.
I would rather be driving a I8 than a 7-series or M5.

 

[klier]

Why the dislike about I8.

Fairly simple: MB is years behind. And that hurts.

 

[braaf]

I'm glad you are so clever that you can.

I said nothing about being clever. I merely alluded that people are not willing to get with the program and hence don't want to embrace what BMW is doing and prefer to pour negativity over it.

Truth is BMW got the jump on the competition which i applaud.

 

[klier]

The R8 and i8 may be rivals in terms of price listings but that's where it ends.

They are not even rivals in pricing. The R8 is much more expensive. Base price alone is almost 40k difference. And the R8 V10 plus is 60k more expensive.
I don't call that rivals anymore. You can buy an i8 AND an M2 for that money.

I see you disagree, 3GT. Maybe it doesn't hurt for you.
Or were you saying MB is up to date? If so, a very big LOL to you.

 

[DblPen]

Kind of defeats the object of buying the i8 as it will affect the fuel consumption. Great looking car, and with proper alloys like those, it looks like the car it could have been. An R8 rival. But at 362hp it's barely a rival for the M240i and costs nearly three times as much.

Low production numbers see BMW declaring it a success, but this is a development car being tested by customers, and at their expense.

I dont know if that is at customers expense, every reviewer seems to love i8

 

[BMW3GT]

I see you disagree, 3GT. Maybe it doesn't hurt for you.
Or were you saying MB is up to date? If so, a very big LOL to you.

So Bimmer is up to date?

“Can you afford to wait until 2021 to unveil the BMW iNext and still be competitive?”
Daniela Bergdolt, vice chair of German shareholder protection association DSW, asked Krueger at the meeting.

“The 7-Series isn’t getting anywhere against the S-Class so far,” Ingo Speich, a fund manager at Union Investment, said at the meeting.

bloomberg.com


No hate against BMW, but just right now it looks like that Krueger looses his faith in BMW I, because iNext will due in 2021.
Yes klier, when the BMW I subbrand was launched there was zero competition from MB. But don't believe they will keep lagging behind in terms of electric vehicles.

 

[Betty Swollocks]

Oh dear, I really didn't intend for this to ignite a big debate about the i8. Genuinely. I guess I should have seen it would though.

I don't know where to start with the replies, but what I will say is that it was seeing the i8 wearing large, fat alloys, that prompted me to make the comments. The people who have done this clearly wanted a performance car, and it begs the question "why not buy a proper performance car then?"

No, it's called negativity

It's an opinion. Are people only allowed to post positive comments? For the record I think the i8 looks fantastic.

^ No, it is actually called being negative. Unfortunately there are people that can't seem to fathom the concept of progression. It doesn't always have to loud shouty and ridiculous. BMW launched this sub brand with the aim of getting the jump on the competition by developing cars that will one day be the norm on our roads.

Nothing wrong with that.

"It doesn't always have to be loud, shouty and ridiculous".

Eh? That's exactly what it is! It's an outrageous looking car, futuristic, turns heads and a 2+2. And that's the issue I have with the i8! Why not put the technology in a more practical car? The issue I have is that the exterior is making promises its drivetrain can't deliver. I can most definitely fathom "progression" and I would have no issue with the technology being used in a different vehicle.

VAG gave Audi the green light to develop the R8 - on a shared sports car platform - solely in order to showcase the marque's sporting aspirations.

The i8 was developed with a different mindset - to showcase BMW's progressive aspirations whilst proving that BMW's sporting heritage can be preserved.

I can't disagree with that. The R8 achieved its aim. I also think the i8 has achieved BMW's aims also. My issue is solely with the rationale behind somebody making the decision to purchase an i8. Whilst the R8 was successful as a showcase for Audi, it was also a genuine contender against its natural rivals. Why would somebody look at an i8 and think "yeah, that's the car for me"?

Is it because of its outright performance? No. There are many cars, some from BMW themselves, that are quicker than the i8.

Is it because of the price? No. The i8 is one of BMW's most expensive cars.

Is it because of the running costs? No. The real world fuel economy is apparently atrocious, and if running costs were a priority then somebody would buy a diesel or a different hybrid. And are running costs really an issue for someone who can afford to buy the i8 in the first place?

Is it because its practical? No.

The only reason I can see why somebody would buy an i8 is because it's different, looks futuristic and it's the latest technology. From a car fan like myself, that seems a very alien idea to me.

Just because the car has no natural rivals, it doesn't automatically mean the car makes sense from a rational point of view.

Why the dislike about I8. I'm just happy BMW are offering something different unlike any other main stream product coming from BMW. I8 adds something different. I think it would be cool to see a future M version.
I would rather be driving a I8 than a 7-series or M5.

"Different"? Hardly a vote of confidence. I certainly agree it's different. That's not the issue. "Different" is how people usually describe something that is pointless/ugly/quirky.

 

[Betty Swollocks]

Truth is BMW got the jump on the competition which i applaud.

BMW "got the jump" on the competition by choosing to avoid competing altogether with the R8 and 911.

They are not even rivals in pricing. The R8 is much more expensive. Base price alone is almost 40k difference. And the R8 V10 plus is 60k more expensive.
I don't call that rivals anymore. You can buy an i8 AND an M2 for that money.

I know you were replying to Martin, but I certainly don't see the i8 as a rival to the R8.

And the price difference with the R8 is only since the 2nd generation R8 was launched. When the i8 was launched, the R8 V10 was much closer, and the R8 V8 was actually CHEAPER than the i8.