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[Centurion]

Re: Forthcoming Audi RS6 talk

AWD is very good for getting the most out of a car during acceleration but I bet a 997 carrera driver has more fun on a track than a RS4 driver. Life isn't only about reaching your goal, it's also about having fun on your way there.

 

[Sayyaaf]

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Well I guess the people in warm climates do not get to experience the fun you have with Quattro.

aha .. I had such experince previously in the US .. but it could get really ugly when u r trying to control ur car ....

 

[Matt]

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So I think if your in So Cal RWD is the way to go but if you live in North where the weather is always snowing and raining then it makes more sence to get an AWD car. Do we all agree with that?

 

[Sayyaaf]

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What I like about AWD, especially Quattro, is that when you floor it to the full at a start, the car sucks itself to the ground and you fly away. Not as with a RWD or FWD that just spin and spin.

so I guess we are totally the opposite .. I like having the tire spinnin most of the times ... unless I don't want it to do so and turning the anti-spinning systems (ASR?) ON ..

so finally it all depends on the driver and weather conditions ..

 

[warot]

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So I think if your in So Cal RWD is the way to go but if you live in North where the weather is always snowing and raining then it makes more sence to get an AWD car. Do we all agree with that?

I don't... like I said, I've lived in countries where it goes down to minus 30C and we haven't had one car that was AWD. Get the right tires and you will be set. Come summer, you'll have a car that is a "true" sports car.

 

[Lemantech]

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I don't... like I said, I've lived in countries where it goes down to minus 30C and we haven't had one car that was AWD. Get the right tires and you will be set. Come summer, you'll have a car that is a "true" sports car.

i don't think it is that easy. We have to ask the guys who probably know like Snake or Martinbo..

 

[warot]

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i don't think it is that easy. We have to ask the guys who probably know like Snake or Martinbo..

Why? Of course they will say that AWD is going to be better than RWD in winter conditions... I'm not saying which one is better, but I'm just telling you guys that AWD is not necessary for winter, even in a place like Russia. Sure it is better, and some people would probably safer in an AWD, but with proper sets of winter tires, you will do fine.

 

[Lemantech]

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Why? Of course they will say that AWD is going to be better than RWD in winter conditions... I'm not saying which one is better, but I'm just telling you guys that AWD is not necessary for winter, even in a place like Russia. Sure it is better, and some people would probably safer in an AWD, but with proper sets of winter tires, you will do fine.

well in the place i live in its not only snowy....its hilly, icey, etc. You can't just have winter tires....our audi has winter Tires, Quattro, and it sometimes STILL slips.

 

[Choleric]

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Why? Of course they will say that AWD is going to be better than RWD in winter conditions... I'm not saying which one is better, but I'm just telling you guys that AWD is not necessary for winter, even in a place like Russia. Sure it is better, and some people would probably safer in an AWD, but with proper sets of winter tires, you will do fine.

Well when you are at a stoplight on hill, in snowy conditions, you let me know just how fine you will do. My friend owns a RWD Infiniti and he cannot even get halfway up the hill that leads to my neigborhood when it snows and yes he has snow tires.

I say if you can afford it buy both, RWD and AWD. And in regaurds to being fun, thats depends on the person because I do not live in my car and I do not go out joyriding, so I personally would rather have my safe, rooadgripping, and 'boring' Quattro vehicle.

 

[warot]

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Well when you are at a stoplight on hill, in snowy conditions, you let me know just how fine you will do. My friend owns a RWD Infiniti and he cannot even get halfway up the hill that leads to my neigborhood when it snows and yes he has snow tires.

I say if you can afford it buy both, RWD and AWD. And in regaurds to being fun, thats depends on the person because I do not live in my car and I do not go out joyriding, so I personally would rather have my safe, rooadgripping, and 'boring' Quattro vehicle.

I'm not trying to say what you have to buy... I'm just stating our experience. So where do you live? I'm not saying that the wheels will never slip but in the 5 years that we were there, not once were we stuck there. Although I have to say that the main streets are cleaned briskly... the little streets however... Here were the cars:
VW Caravelle, MB E230 and VW Passat... 2 FWD and 1 RWD.
I did say that AWD would be better, but it's not always necessary.

 

[Choleric]

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I'm not trying to say what you have to buy... I'm just stating our experience. So where do you live? I'm not saying that the wheels will never slip but in the 5 years that we were there, not once were we stuck there. Although I have to say that the main streets are cleaned briskly... the little streets however... Here were the cars:
VW Caravelle, MB E230 and VW Passat... 2 FWD and 1 RWD.
I did say that AWD would be better, but it's not always necessary.

Im sorry if it sounded as if there was some animosity in what I said it was not meant to.

I understand your point and agree I to was simply stating my situation. I live(d) in Omaha which gets snow for a good portion of the year and it sits in the Missouri valley so it is very hilly through out the city and surrounding countryside. So I appreciate the quattro quite a bit and I think in my city AWD versions of most cars probably sell more than the standard RWD or FWD.

 

[Zafiro]

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I live in Sweden and as you know we have wintertimes , although not compared to Alaska I dont have a problem with RWD during wintertime. I use the brain and were decent wintertires and Im OK during driving. If the car didnt have DSC or antispinn it would not be good but all the electronics today helps a lot, even saved me from crashing.

I suggest you use you brain, buy great set of wintertires (there are different kind of wintertires) and you will be fine most of the times. Thats my experience.
BTW RWD is better than FWD if its snowy and you are going uphill.

 

[MikeJ]

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Yes, it's possible to manage with RWD in slippery conditions but in city driving old ladies in 1.0-liter Micras will beat you off the lights and round corners...
You're absolutely right about the importance of good winter tires - nothing but studded ones for me...

BTW RWD is better than FWD if its snowy and you are going uphill.

Maybe if you can take the hill with speed, but if you have to stop there you're in trouble.

 

[Zafiro]

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Yes, it's possible to manage with RWD in slippery conditions but in city driving old ladies in 1.0-liter Micras will beat you off the lights and round corners...
You're absolutely right about the importance of good winter tires - nothing but studded ones for me...



Maybe if you can take the hill with speed, but if you have to stop there you're in trouble.

I just read in a swedish wintertest and they said RWD is better than FWd cause the power goes to the rearwheels and push the car up the hill. The best solution for a FWD is to turn the car so the front wheels lending downhill and use the reverse and start driving.

(tusan vet inte hur jag säger det på engelska men det underlättar om du backar upp för en backe med en framhjulsdriven bil, hoppas du förstår Mike )

 

[Yperion]

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A Greek TV car show called "Traction" had taken a A4 quattro along with some SUVs in the snow for testing and it was amazing how the A4 could outhandle all the other cars in the snow even with normal (not winter) tires. If you live in a country with wet/snowy roads quattro is a huge advantage.

 

[Zafiro]

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If you live in a country with wet/snowy roads quattro is a huge advantage.

But not a "must" You live in Greece, summer everyday

 

[Deleted member 182]

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I just read in a swedish wintertest and they said RWD is better than FWd cause the power goes to the rearwheels and push the car up the hill.

This is right when you have very little snow. You should also have some extra weight in the trunk. FWD in general is better in snowy conditions because it spins and thus removes snow from the front end of the car while RWD just stacks the snow in the front.

 

[Yperion]

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But not a "must" You live in Greece, summer everyday

Well that's not exactly true. I live in an island and the weather is good most of the time (although we have too much rain in the winter) but in central Greece there is snow at least 2-3 months each year.

 

[Zafiro]

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Well that's not exactly true. I live in an island and the weather is good most of the time (although we have too much rain in the winter) but in central Greece there is snow at least 2-3 months each year.

Cant you just tell Zeus to give you summer all the time?

 

[MikeJ]

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I just read in a swedish wintertest and they said RWD is better than FWd cause the power goes to the rearwheels and push the car up the hill. The best solution for a FWD is to turn the car so the front wheels lending downhill and use the reverse and start driving.

(tusan vet inte hur jag säger det på engelska men det underlättar om du backar upp för en backe med en framhjulsdriven bil, hoppas du förstår Mike )

Jag förstår.

I was looking for similar tests in my stash of car magazines but I only found a Finnish mag from 2003 where they were testing different four-wheel-drive systems in wintry conditions. They had a Suzuki Jimny with RWD/switchable 4WD, a Honda HR-V (from 100 % FWD to 50:50 split), a Skoda Octavia with the Haldex system (from 98:2 to 50:50 front/rear) and a Subaru Legacy with continuous 50:50 AWD. Sadly, the only hill test they did was towing a freakin' Mitsubishi Pajero up an icy 14% slope which doesn't sound exactly fair but I guess they wanted to prove a point. Anyways, the Jimny managed a whopping 2 meters in RWD but 29 meters in 4WD... The Skoda with its Haldex system disabled (=FWD) managed 16 meters, 83 meters in AWD... The HR-V managed 40 meters and the Subaru was the undisputed king with 103 meters.