My Father's New Car - What To Choose?

[coolraoul]

I never drove any Lexus.
I never sat in the IS, either. But I sat in many Lexuses, mostly GS including the all-new. What always shocked me are the buttons: squared, grey, shiny. Awfully old-looking...

I would say that these cars are lifeless, too perfect to be interesting. Maybe it is the Japanese idea of a car, a perfect machinery...But it is not my idea of a car.

I read in many reviews that the IS was not very comfortable, without feeling very sporty...

Anyway, I prefer the Germans because they have charisma, they have character. Not as much as the Italians, but...the Italians sometimes have a bad character and that is not always good...

Lexuses are a bit blank to my eyes. But I reckon they are very valuable, very good cars. For someone that wants a luxurious, reliable, discreet car they sure are worth a look.

My choice here is the C-Class, I love it. It feels very solid, build to last, it is very pleasant to live with, comfortable, very good-looking. I find the old Benzes values in this car and I like it.

 

[Centurion]

The Lexus isn't as bad as some of us German car fans might think it is. I've driven the GS as well but wasn't phased, everything was too numb and soft like a Volvo. Having driven the IS twice I can't find anything faulty about it except that the steering has a Logitech Force Feedback gaming wheel feel to it. Interior is pretty alright even though the feel of the buttons is no where near the new C-class.

Just like all Lexus car it's comfort orientated but I have driven the IS250 Sport as well. The sportiness was pretty subtle but offered a nice balance between the sport and comfort. It absorbed small pot poles but you could feel the deep ones.

All in all, my opinion on the IS250 is positive. Drives good, looks good and offer decent quality. Wouldn't choose one over the Germans unless i was offered one at a very low price.

 

[Amo]

It's a tough one...

I personally would go for the Lexus. In my opnion, it looks great and has a quality feel. It's just as good as the other too.

If your Dad is wanting a really fast sporty machine, then it would have to be the E90. If he is wanting something with the same power, but is a bit more sophisticated, it should probably be the C-Class. If he wants both, and wants something 'different', go for the Lexus.

Just my opnion.

 

[habashi2]

we have both the new c-class and the 3-series, the c lass is much more comfortable than the 3 series but the 3 series is more fun to drive, its sportier. its a matter of what u r looking for. from the inside i think the bmw looks better but both have the same quality feel. I think u should buy the merc because its newer and the 3 series will be facelifted at the end of this year.

 

[Poverty]

Sorry Yannis, he isnt an Audi guy. Never was and probably never will. Sorry Yannis

Tell him audi is completely different to what he thinks it is. Old people still think because something was not too great back in the 1980's that chances are it still is today. My dad thought that untill I took him to a audi garage.

Just tell him to go along to one as fun. You to guys can go there one weekend. Father, son and cars. A great combo.

 

[bmer]

I'd just go test drive them all (including the A4) with an open mind (no prejudice ).

 

[ateekt]

Bimmer & than Lexus, driven both & realized both are highly satisfying (luxury & sports) compacts ...!

P.s; Why the handy bar like Audi is missing here ...?

 

[kovachian]

Was the A4 automatically disqualified for some reason?

 

[Sir Altitude]

The Lexus is good, indeed. The merc should be very good, as well. However, dude, you've always respected the power and beauty of the BMW. That should be the answer for you. BMW all the way!

 

[Tarek]

C avantgarde please Andreas

 

[Mr. M]

A C200 Avantgarde would be a good bet for him.

 

[Zafiro]

I went to the MB dealer with my father today to look at the new C-class Wagon. There were 4 sales people but they did not show any intrest to help my father. He left the dealer disappointed.
If they arent serviceminded they can forget about selling cars. Idiots!!


Only good thing coming from this visit was to see this beast, C63 AMG.

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[Centurion]

That's how sales people at BMW, Audi and Mercedes in particular tend to act in Sweden. No test drive of that C63 demo car??

 

[Zafiro]

That's how sales people at BMW, Audi and Mercedes in particular tend to act in Sweden. No test drive of that C63 demo car??

Audi is the best to get testdrives IMO, at least where I live. And regarding C63, we didnt ask. My father didnt even look at the car, he just walked past it.

 

[Mr Robert]

Sales people should know that they are nothing but whores and that the customer is king...

 

[Centurion]

Sales people should know that they are nothing but whores and that the customer is king...

You're 100% In not of the cases they themselves can't afford the cars they are selling. They should be the ones bending down spreading for the costumers.

 

[Deleted member 25]

Sales people should know that they are nothing but whores and that the customer is king...

Quite harsh but that's how they should act.

 

[Mr Robert]

Quite harsh but that's how they should act.

Pardon my french...

You're 100% In not of the cases they themselves can't afford the cars they are selling. They should be the ones bending down spreading for the costumers.

Best example ever must be the Audi Showroom at Norrmalmstorg in Stockholm, everytime I visit there are a couple of a bit too young boys there who are supposed to act as informants/sales people... well... how do I say this... they seem totally occupied with their hair and maybe to some extent with rectifying the tennis racquet frimly stuck in their rectum...

Thankfully there is a VW dealer next door and the girls there are both knowledgeable and socially competent...

 

[Centurion]

Best example ever must be the Audi Showroom at Norrmalmstorg in Stockholm, everytime I visit there are a couple of a bit too young boys there who are supposed to act as informants/sales people... well... how do I say this... they seem totally occupied with their hair and maybe to some extent with rectifying the tennis racquet frimly stuck in their rectum...

Thankfully there is a VW dealer next door and the girls there are both knowledgeable and socially competent...

Poor you, so you haven't been properly taken care of by Schtekare from Danderyd? But I hear ya, there's nothing more annying than having to deal with some 20 years old kid who have got a job as a sales person thanks to his father pulling some strings. I've actually been to that dealer in STHML and when I was there they were pretty alright.

In general the service and hospitality is poor at dealerships in Sweden. In Orange County they were fantastic, proper sales guys who not only did not how to sell a car but also how to make a potential customer feel relaxed and comfortable. They approach you in a very relaxed and casual manner. I paid a visit to Porsche, Lexus, Mercedes(Fletcher's), BMW, VW and Nissan. The four mentioned first offer equally as good service although the guy I dealt with at Mercedes was veteran sales guy and was superb as his job. VW were cool as well except that the woman who accompanied me in a GTI was very.........erm..........short of words and barely said anything at all. At Nissan the sales people were a bit obnoxious and didn't know how to properly take care of customers.

 

[Zafiro]

its one thing if its young kids in the age of 18 coming in but if there is a older man in the 50's and another one in the age og 30 you expect they show intrest in us. You wont sell cars if you dont help the people visiting.