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I absolutely agree with you, you’re 100% right.

They underestimated the USA market, EVs are basically dead there.

They overestimated the Chinese market, where I expect the market share to go down 95%.
 
I absolutely agree with you, you’re 100% right.

They underestimated the USA market, EVs are basically dead there.

They overestimated the Chinese market, where I expect the market share to go down 95%.
They should’ve came with a strategy to do inline6s ,V8s & V12s for markets that have less emissions like the USA. That way everyone can be happy since some people actually prefer EVs.

Now China is making them look like clowns. Made them overinvest just so they could sell a car with more/better features than a Mercedes for 40% of the price!
 
They should’ve came with a strategy to do inline6s ,V8s & V12s for markets that have less emissions like the USA. That way everyone can be happy since some people actually prefer EVs.

Now China is making them look like clowns. Made them overinvest just so they could sell a car with more/better features than a Mercedes for 40% of the price!
Exactly.

Or they should blackmail the EU so they can use the USA homologation in the EU.
 
It's easy to judge in hindsight.

Probably meniioend before, but I see a difference between Mercedes and BMW when considering shareholders. BMW has a major, domestic shareholder (Family Klatten). Mercedes doesn't have a major shareholder. The larger shareholders are not domestic and all have different interests. BAIC, Li Shufu/Geely and Kuwait Investment Authority. That makes a long term strategy, in the best interest of the company, not an easy task.

Oh and regarding what's coming next; nothing exciting, really. Maybe the C-EV, as far as an EV can be exciting at all, but for the rest...
 
Although the CLA EQ sells well at the moment I expect the customers to move to the GLB EQ.
Agree.
The g might sell because of the design, as a baby G.
Agree.
The GLC and GLB should sell well in Europe. I guess those 2 will have 80% of the MB EQ cake.
Agree.
I Expect the GLA to be a little bit in the shadow of the GLB ( it’ll depend from the design).
Agree.
The C EQ,
Fleet managers will decide it's "fortune or failure".
Halo technological spearhead more focused on promotion than outright commercial success. Very limited scope of it's particular market segment.
and GT SUV

Somehow think that it could be surprisingly successful in the very limitied parameters of it's market segment.
... the CLA/SB on the midterm.

Agree. Competitors are not sleeping and the MMA vehicles could come under heavy assault. Very attractive purchasing/lease/financing offers will be of utmost essence.

In the USA none of these cars will sell.

California, the by far most significant region of the U.S. in this context may think differently.
 
Another poor decision choice. Why won’t they put that new V8 in this thing? it’s supposed to continue the CLS63/GT63 lineage.
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Probably meniioend before, but I see a difference between Mercedes and BMW when considering shareholders. BMW has a major, domestic shareholder (Family Klatten). Mercedes doesn't have a major shareholder. The larger shareholders are not domestic and all have different interests. BAIC, Li Shufu/Geely and Kuwait Investment Authority. That makes a long term strategy, in the best interest of the company, not an easy task.

Though it still won't put them in the same situation as BMW, Mercedes have instigated a share buyback scheme to reduce their exposure. BMW is now at <50% free-float, I think Mercedes is trying to get down to about 65% IIRC.
 
 
Though it still won't put them in the same situation as BMW, Mercedes have instigated a share buyback scheme to reduce their exposure. BMW is now at <50% free-float, I think Mercedes is trying to get down to about 65% IIRC.
I've read about Mercedes buying back its own shares. That will give them potentially more control and higher shareholder value. Well, in theory. I still see BMW in a better position.
 
I've read about Mercedes buying back its own shares. That will give them potentially more control and higher shareholder value. Well, in theory. I still see BMW in a better position.

Well, at BMW AG, there is a single shareholder who possesses minority blockage rights (Sperrminorität of at least 25%) and happens to be German, namely Stefan Quandt. His sister, Susanne Klatten, is the second largest shareholder with some 21%. Hence, they are an extremely dominant German brother/sister duo that can and do massively influence corporate decisions.

There is no such constellation at M-B currently.
 

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