Hot! Mercedes-Benz, What's Next?

[AbsoluteUnit]

Wow! Here is Australia a decade is only 10 years.

I think he means what is designed out for 10 years won't be completed manufacturing for 15 years.

 

[klier]

Wow! Here is Australia a decade is only 10 years.

He said the next decade. Which I assumed to be til the end of this one and then the next decade. Guess he meant the next decade from now on, which still doesn't change my initial comment. The next decade is NOT set.

 

[Swissbob]

Developing a car in Germany takes 3-5yrs, cars which should be released after 2030 can be still changed.

 

[Mr. Mercedes]

He said the next decade. Which I assumed to be til the end of this one and then the next decade. Guess he meant the next decade from now on, which still doesn't change my initial comment. The next decade is NOT set.

You guys take me too seriously lol.

I read his interview from 2022 posted further up in the thread. He spoke about how fantastic the EQE and EQS were . Prior to their market failures ofcourse. But LORD help us!

Do we know more about what this guy has worked on? The AMG Vision GT is his most known work I believe.

 

[AbsoluteUnit]

You guys take me too seriously lol.

I read his interview from 2022 posted further up in the thread. He spoke about how fantastic the EQE and EQS were . Prior to their market failures ofcourse. But LORD help us!

Yeah I mean he's not just going to go out to the media and say "yeah these cars f#cking suck, and are ugly as sin".

 

[Mr. Mercedes]

Yeah I mean he's not just going to go out to the media and say "yeah these cars f#cking suck, and are ugly as sin".

My mummy told me it's better to say nothing, rather than lie.

If you read the interview, he wasn't asked to comment on those models. He chose to. He could have referenced other models in his discussion. He was there alongside Gordon when these cars were signed off and he probably has been in step with much of Gordon's philosophy for a while now. This is Mercedes. The replacement designer has been groomed alongside the outgoing one, and they are not about to start any sort of BMW design revolution.

That said Gordon stepped up when Pfeiffer was clearly out of steam, but he stood and cheered alongside him right up to that point, while they delivered some pretty questionable designs. But with Pfeiffer gone, they delivered some truly beautiful cars. Perhaps this is the case again, and Baudy will be the breath of fresh air Mercedes needs for their EV approach. Will we see the first of this in the new AMG Coupe and SUV next year?

 

[AbsoluteUnit]

My mummy told me it's better to say nothing, rather than lie.

If you read the interview, he wasn't asked to comment on those models. He chose to. He could have referenced other models in his discussion. He was there alongside Gordon when these cars were signed off and he probably has been in step with much of Gordon's philosophy for a while now. This is Mercedes. The replacement designer has been groomed alongside the outgoing one, and they are not about to start any sort of BMW design revolution.

That said Gordon stepped up when Pfeiffer was clearly out of steam, but he stood and cheered alongside him right up to that point, while they delivered some pretty questionable designs. Perhaps this is the case again, and Baudy will be the breath of fresh air Mercedes needs for their EV approach. Will we see the first of this in the new AMG Coupe and SUV next year?

Sometimes its a case of buttering the appropriate bread until its your time to shine.
Sad reality in most mega corporations.

 

[Esp5]

A pearl left by Gordon long before EQS's, EQE's etc.
Interview from 2010

Interviewer: Will future Mercedes designs be shaped by aerodynamics?
Gordon: No. We will never sacrifice design for aero.

Thread 'Mercedes' new design direction: Interview with Gorden Wagener'

Feb 22, 2010

Mercedes' new design direction

22 February 2010



All future Mercedes will have styling their styling influenced by the F800 Style design concept, the firm's design boss Gorden Wagener has revealed.
Speaking to Autocar at the launch of the F800, Wagener revealed said the F800's front end will feature on all future Mercedes, starting with this year's next-generation CLS.
Wagener also said all future Mercedes would come with LED daytime lights as standard, although the light's "expression" would not be aggressive.
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[Luca]

Maybe it was time to choose a new externally designed leader... anyway, only time will prove my statement right or wrong.

 

[Merc1]

What is the word on the G Cabriolet and the CLE63?

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[Centurion]

As is the case with many chief designers, "hits" and "misses" are not uncommon. And, of course, there is always some sort of intervention by corporate, non-designer, suits.

But whatever, whether by his own choice or not, it is time for Herr Wagener to seek another environment. It will benefit him as well as Mercedes-Benz.

Overall Wagoner has done a fab job with the brand. I am a fan of what he's done with the A class and introducing a line of entry level Mercs that arent simply sclass design language squeezed into a fwd hatchback or sedan form factor.

 

[klugscheisser87]

Ready, steady, go: On 10 March 2026, the all-new and all-electric Mercedes-Benz VLE will celebrate its world premiere in Stuttgart
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The all-new VLE will be the first Mercedes-Benz model based on the newly developed, modular, and scalable van architecture that ushers in a completely new era. The VLE will celebrate its world premiere on 10 March 2026 in Stuttgart, the birthplace of the automobile.

The all-new VLE brings together the best of two worlds, combining limousine-like ride and handling with MPV-style versatility. With up to eight seats and innovative features in the interior, the VLE redefines space. The portfolio of the VLE will range from flexible vehicles for families and leisure-active customers to exclusive shuttles.
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German Horror Story; Mercedes-Benz.

Gordon ran away before switching on the light…

 

[klier]

Overall Wagoner has done a fab job with the brand. I am a fan of what he's done with the A class and introducing a line of entry level Mercs that arent simply sclass design language squeezed into a fwd hatchback or sedan form factor.

No it's the opposite now, the made the S class look like an A class.
Worst MB head of design ever. Zero creativity and MB identity completely lost.

I truly hope this is the turning point toward more traditional angular designs and the end of the grille that belongs on an SL but is on every f#cking car now.

 

[lukeswiss]

No it's the opposite now, the made the S class look like an A class.
Worst MB head of design ever. Zero creativity and MB identity completely lost.

I truly hope this is the turning point toward more traditional angular designs and the end of the grille that belongs on an SL but is on every f#cking car now.

Looking forward to the new design philosophy, understated luxury. Squarer designs, only 3 stars on the car, one on the front, one on the back and one on the steering wheel. More leather, solid aluminium buttons, engineering things to feel nice to the touch. Is this possible ? I hope so.

 

[Mick Briesgau]

Looking forward to the new design philosophy, understated luxury. Squarer designs, only 3 stars on the car, one on the front, one on the back and one on the steering wheel. More leather, solid aluminium buttons, engineering things to feel nice to the touch. Is this possible ? I hope so.

I wouldn’t count on it.

 

[Mr. Mercedes]

I'd be surprised to see drastic changes such as the Neu Klass. I suspect Mercedes will continue to take an evolutionary approach, even if they do become more daring. Any notable change in design direction will be spread over at least 2 generations, and I doubt Wagener would have been Baudy's proponent if he didn't respect the vertical and horizontal design homogeneity Mercedes has for most of their history respected and worked hard to re-establish over the last decade. They also have to continue with some ICE variants that are not getting anywhere close to the extent of updates their BMW Counterparts are. Drastic changes in new models could result in a mess of a line up.

Baudy has been in charge of AMG Design for some time, and what we see in the new AMG Coupe and SUV will probably give us a good indication of where things are heading in the short to medium term.

All IMO of course.

 

[LaArtist]

Gordon did his thing. But it’s time for a fresh change. Can’t wait to see who takes over and what direction will be taken

Wishing for more understated and less blingy cars , but ofc it’s a Benz needs to be flashy anyway, but not over board stuff please

 

[Uygar]

Looking forward to the new design philosophy, understated luxury. Squarer designs, only 3 stars on the car, one on the front, one on the back and one on the steering wheel. More leather, solid aluminium buttons, engineering things to feel nice to the touch. Is this possible ? I hope so.

There’s this video of an IG creator counting every Maybach logo on the SL, and there was more than thousand of them