Hot! Mercedes-Benz, What's Next?

[Deleted member 57437]

The forgotten AMG

Wretched rust-buckets, those pre-MOPF W/S203s'. The post-MOPF cars were much improved.

 

[J.E]

Wretched rust-buckets, those pre-MOPF W/S203s'. The post-MOPF cars were much improved.

C55 is post-MOPF.

 

[fortuner]

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I had this the 4 door ..Non 507 editon the beat car i owned in my life i loved every moment i regret ever selling it..

My silver Arrows it was a beast and the sound and handling was wow

 

[Serpens]

V8s are back on the table in the U.S. as of tomorrow.

 

[Deleted member 57437]

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Dr. Ferdinand Dudenhöfer appears to be relatively "bullish" on Mercedes-Benz. He applauds the company's future focus on the elevated segments of the automotive market and views their chances of succeeding in this strategy, alluding to the M-B.EA, AMG.EA and Maybach.EA BEV platforms, as "good".

 

[leylandi]

Timetable AMG E Performance

• AMG GT 63 SE Performance 4matic+ (843 hp), can be ordered
• S 63 E Performance 4matic+ (223 series) incl. V8; from about summer 2022
• C 63 E Performance 4matic+(W/S206) with M139 R4 with 653 hp summer/autumn 2022
• AMG SL 63 E Performance R232 is combined with 4-cylinder and/or V8 (still 2022)
• GLC 63 SE Performance (X254) 2023 (probably based on 4-cylinder M139)
• E 63 SE Performance (W214) autumn 2023 probably with a 4.0 liter V8 from the performance level of the S-Class (no 800 hp).

 

[Serpens]

Timetable AMG E Performance

• AMG GT 63 SE Performance 4matic+ (843 hp), can be ordered
• S 63 E Performance 4matic+ (223 series) incl. V8; from about summer 2022
• C 63 E Performance 4matic+(W/S206) with M139 R4 with 653 hp summer/autumn 2022
• AMG SL 63 E Performance R232 is combined with 4-cylinder and/or V8 (still 2022)
• GLC 63 SE Performance (X254) 2023 (probably based on 4-cylinder M139)
• E 63 SE Performance (W214) autumn 2023 probably with a 4.0 liter V8 from the performance level of the S-Class (no 800 hp).

Thanks, summertime for the S63 is what I was hearing too. I'm eager to get my hands on one.

 

[Merc1]

Does the S63 E Performance get the full 800+ HP?

M

 

[Serpens]

Does the S63 E Performance get the full 800+ HP?

M

From what I understand, yes. It's the same P3 system found elsewhere.

 

[Pagani]

I hope the SL 63 has nothing to do with the 4-cylinder engine.

 

[Serpens]

I hope the SL 63 has nothing to do with the 4-cylinder engine.

Of course it doesn’t- the SL63 comes with a V8, SL63e gets the hybrid system with the V8. Same story with the S-class.

Some markets will be getting the I4 + P3 hybrid system though as a separate trim.

 

[Sunny]

Super Leicht 63e weighing just 5000+ lbs... thank god for the F1 tech.

 

[hoffmeister_fan]

SL's haven't been super leicht in ages....

 

[TATE]

 

[Sunny]

SL's haven't been super leicht in ages....

Indeed, but 5000+ lbs? They should rename it as SH 63.

 

[Mick Briesgau]

There’s no way to justify the enormous weight gain as soon as MB starts to electrify it’s offerings. The sad thing is, in most cases it doesn’t even bring any advantages. As is the case with C Class W206 vs W205 or the W213 E 220d with the new OM 654M.

 

[merc4]

From what I understand, yes. It's the same P3 system found elsewhere.

Jesmb.de reports that the engine gets probably the SL63 specification so the overall output should be 789 PS.

 

[Merc1]

C&D is confirming that the A-Class is being dropped from the U.S. lineup.

• Mercedes-Benz has confirmed that the A-class sedan will depart the U.S. lineup.
• The AMG A35 had already been dropped, and now the A220 model will no longer be available after the 2022 model year.
• The GLA-class crossover will now be the cheapest Mercedes, and the CLA-class sedan will stick around for now.

Look for the CLS 450 to be next. Totally irrelevant car now next to the AMG GT 4Door models, 43, 53, etc.

M

 

[MAJESTIC]

C&D is confirming that the A-Class is being dropped from the U.S. lineup.

• Mercedes-Benz has confirmed that the A-class sedan will depart the U.S. lineup.
• The AMG A35 had already been dropped, and now the A220 model will no longer be available after the 2022 model year.
• The GLA-class crossover will now be the cheapest Mercedes, and the CLA-class sedan will stick around for now.

Look for the CLS 450 to be next. Totally irrelevant car now next to the AMG GT 4Door models, 43, 53, etc.

M

Even though I like the little A-Class (Niece recently purchased an A220 Sport), It's time for Mercedes to get back to the top end of the market. I know they will never be able to recapture the Mercedes-Benz essence/mystique of the 80s and 90s, (cheapest model was nearly $60,000 adjusted for inflation) but all these lower tier FWD models are bad for business and image. The goal should NOT be a Mercedes in every driveway; leave that to BMW and Audi.

 

[Serpens]

C&D is confirming that the A-Class is being dropped from the U.S. lineup.

• Mercedes-Benz has confirmed that the A-class sedan will depart the U.S. lineup.
• The AMG A35 had already been dropped, and now the A220 model will no longer be available after the 2022 model year.
• The GLA-class crossover will now be the cheapest Mercedes, and the CLA-class sedan will stick around for now.

Look for the CLS 450 to be next. Totally irrelevant car now next to the AMG GT 4Door models, 43, 53, etc.

M

I think they'll let the CLS live out its sad existence for the next 2-3 years as it's sold at a premium vs. E-class. The culling of these low-margin vehicles is to be expected though given Ola's sentiments.