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[Serpens]

Mercedes cars’ new look will come slow and steady as BMW and Audi opt for revolution

Mercedes cars’ new look will come slow and steady as BMW and Audi opt for revolution | Auto Express

Mercedes is never one for radical redirection, but a new face at the top will make his mark

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Just FYI - they don't consider the Pfeiffer > Wagener transition to be a revolution, for example. You can still have significant change while not being considered a revolution.

 

[Design FIRST]

Just FYI - they don't consider the Pfeiffer > Wagener transition to be a revolution, for example. You can still have significant change while not being considered a revolution.

"Revolution" ? The W201...leading to the W124 that replaced the W123 perhaps ?

 

[Serpens]

"Revolution" ? The W201...leading to the W124 that replaced the W123 perhaps ?

I think the W140 > W220 transition is an obvious example of a revolution.

 

[Design FIRST]

I think the W140 > W220 transition is an obvious example of a revolution.

Yep-good example IMHO.

 

[Uygar]

They desperately need a brand new design language imo, something fresh yet still quintessentially Mercedes. Pretty much all the models have looked similar for the past 10 years. Adding stars and big grilles on dated bodies don’t work either, at least for me.
Thankfully they started experimenting with the GT 4-Door, VLE and stuff. High expectations for the next generation models.

 

[leylandi]

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[Esp5]

"Revolution" ? The W201...leading to the W124 that replaced the W123 perhaps ?

Everything Bruno Sacco did with respect to its predecessors—the W124 vs. the W123, the W140 vs. the W126, and the R129 compared to its predecessor.
if you ask me, It was one of the most significant revolutions in automotive history.
I don't know if such a radical leap into modernity had ever been seen in Mercedes' history, but it hasn't been seen since.

 

[Serpens]

Everything Bruno Sacco did with respect to its predecessors—the W124 vs. the W123, the W140 vs. the W126, and the R129 compared to its predecessor.
if you ask me, It was one of the most significant revolutions in automotive history.
I don't know if such a radical leap into modernity had ever been seen in Mercedes' history, but it hasn't been seen since.

Not to take away from Bruno, but he also had the advantage of updating models that had been in production for a very long time. The W123 had been in production for 11 years, the W126 for 12 years, and the R107 for 18 years.

 

[Esp5]

Not to take away from Bruno, but he also had the advantage of updating models that had been in production for a very long time. The W123 had been in production for 11 years, the W126 for 12 years, and the R107 for 18 years.

I understand, that's why those cars seem to have skipped a whole generation, and even two in the case of the SL R129.
Such extended lifecycles weren't so unusual for the time, but the R107 must be a world record.

 

[Uygar]

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Golden era. Look how chiseled and premium they look. Now they’re all blobby.

 

[Serpens]

I'd hardly call that a golden era, especially with that generation SL in the photo. As a matter of fact, there was many posts on this forum criticizing Mercedes design during that era. SL, CLS, W212 E-class facelift, SLK all caused controversy here.

 

[Merc1]

Right. That generation SL was loathed by many. A golden era design wise would have clearly been the days of the W201, W124, W126.

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[Dopebouy]

Golden era. Look how chiseled and premium they look. Now they’re all blobby.

Yeah they should definitely bring back boxy style to Mercs. Something like a modern take of W212 E, X166 GL & Bruno Sacco Mercs would do.

 

[Esp5]

Something like a modern take of W212 E, X166 GL & Bruno Sacco Mercs would do.

W212 and Bruno Sacco should never be mentioned in the same sentence

 

[Ozy]

Now Mercedes has too large a lineup to have a “golden era”, there is never a point in time where all of their cars represent one single design language - yes they are similar with facelifts and etc, but those are just compromises, just like now with the S, GLE/GLS… I think the vision iconic is a very great base for the future generations, and ironically it was also designed by Wagener. We can see that on concept arts - this direction is very Mercedes like, applicable to their lineup, and feels high end. They have all the right answers inhouse, just the decision-makers suck.

 

[Dopebouy]

W212 and Bruno Sacco should never be mentioned in the same sentence

What’s wrong with the W212?

If the W224 comes out looking like this? Even Rolls-Royce would be pressuring their designers

 

[Esp5]

What’s wrong with the W212?

It must be the least successful E-Class in terms of design of all; it consistently lost in sales against its competition and forced Mercedes to undertake its most expensive and extensive facelift up to that point,
far from Sacco's masterpieces

 

[Dopebouy]

It must be the least successful E-Class in terms of design of all; it consistently lost in sales against its competition and forced Mercedes to undertake its most expensive and extensive facelift up to that point,
far from Sacco's masterpieces

The W212R & CLS Gen 2 were PEAK though.

 

[Esp5]

The W212R & CLS Gen 2 were PEAK though.

The W212 was beyond repair for me, but the CLS 2 was and still is a gem.

 

[Dopebouy]

The W212 was beyond repair for me, but the CLS 2 was and still is a gem.

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