Press Release Mercedes Benz to build midsize pickup by end of Decade


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Renault in fact, has announced they will be making a medium size truck "based" (badge engineering) in the Navara/Frontier, so I too think the Mercedes pickup is going to be a Nissan with another badge.

Yes and if you look carefully at the render, you will notice that it has the same rear window kink of the new Navara. So I guess Wolfgang will agree with both of us that the Mercedes pickup will be a Nissan Navara with a Mercedes GLE front. So there is a fat chance of an AMG version to happen.
 
And where's going to be made? Mexico or Argentina? Some reports say Argentina; Daimler already had bought pickups from the competition to examine them.....
 
Agree, the new pickup might be based on the Metris/Vito or Navara platforms, as the GLE doesn't offer the one metric ton (1000 kg) payload, it seems. :)
 
The buzz about the Benz pickup
Daimler's surprise announcement that it will launch a Mercedes-Benz pickup by 2020 contained no technical details, but offered one major clue: The midsize truck will be built by the company's commercial vans division.

That means there's a good chance the pickup will be based on the bones of the midsize Vito van that will be launched as the Metris this fall in the United States.

Mercedes-Benz USA spokesman Christian Bokich said there are no plans to sell the pickup here, but at Mercedes-Benz of Plano in Texas, the sales staff chattered Friday, March 27, about the possibility.

"My dad has always been a die-hard Ford truck man, but he said if Mercedes ever built a pickup, he'd buy one," said Brandon Reininger, Internet sales manager. "I don't think we'd sell thousands, but I wouldn't have a problem pushing it."

The Wall Street Journal reported the vehicle will be built with four- and six-cylinder engines. The Vito-Metris is also offered with those two sizes of engines. One version of the Vito-Metris is offered with rear-wheel drive -- essential for a pickup -- and another with all-wheel drive.

"This is going to be smaller than the Sprinter," said AutoPacific Inc. analyst Dave Sullivan. "If I had to venture a guess, I'd say it will possibly be built off the Vito in Spain."

Mercedes officials were not saying much about the truck's specs. But the company has been eyeing the growing global market for midsize trucks. The company said the midsize truck will be aimed initially at four markets: Latin America, Australia, South Africa and Europe.

In those markets, the Mercedes pickup would compete against the Ford Ranger, Volkswagen Amarok and Toyota Hilux trucks.

Daimler Chairman Dieter Zetsche said in a statement. "The Mercedes-Benz pickup will contribute nicely to our global growth targets." Source: Automotive News
 
Ah-ha! My FORD truck will be replaced with this Benz when the time comes.

FYI. Speaking of which, the 2016 FORD ranger LCI:
 

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I could swear it's just going to be a rebadged Nissan Frontier.....

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A new report indicates the Mercedes-Benz pickup truck will actually be built by Nissan.

Several days ago, the Daimler-owned company made a rather surprising announcement, reveling plans for a mid-size pickup truck set to come out by 2020. They said it's being developed by the Mercedes-Benz Vans division and now two sources close to the German marque told Wall Street Journal the model will actually be built by Nissan.

Moreover, it will allegedly be based on the Navara and will be powered by Mercedes-Benz four- and six-cylinder engines. It is believed the talks between the two parties are now at an advanced stage, but some of the details are “still being worked out.”

The pickup truck wearing the three-pointed star will be commercialized in Europe, Latin America, Australia and South Africa and will be out before the end of the decade.

Source: wsj.com via europe.autonews.com
 
It will be body-on-frame, right!?

If not, M-B can forget selling it in SA(Africa)...or Thailand, Australia, Japan etc.

It simply has to be rugged, though and Toyota Hilux reliable IF marketed as a pick-up truck. For leisure use even if it's something like a ute (old Ford Ranchero) it won't last a day in Africa. We like our trucks xtra though and xtra reliable.;)
 
It will be body on frame. Mercedes will not try to reinvent the wheel like Honda did in the U.S with the Ridgeline and failed miserably.
 
This is likely based on the new Nissan Navara NP300, which was pretty much designed through about 3 years ago. Paul Tan and an idiotic bunch of Australian journalists that got ahold of spy shots of it back in 2013, stupidly reported it as a Mitsubishi Triton and thus no one knew about plans for a redesign. The next US Frontier has been in customer clinics for awhile, shown at Nissan dealer meetings and was seen by some people in the US in 2013, as well as the next Honda Ridgeline.

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Many people are unaware that Nissan has internally redesigned the second generation North American Titan numerous times since 2008, until the final, FINAL article's design freeze in 2013. The styling of the smaller D23 was finalised by 2012. The Armada SUV replacement was frozen over a year ago, planned for 2016. That model was announced over 19 months ago.

Unusually it is taking Nissan more than 3 years (styling freeze to launch) on the US D40 Frontier replacement, but not sure why though. Point is, that the MB truck may be based on the D23 Nissan, that went into production last July and is much further along than journalists assume. It was suggested in September 2013, that both full-size and mid-size trucks from MB were planned to be developed off of the incoming redesigns of the Titan and Frontier/Navara. That fell through due to Nissan's inability to engineer satisfactory powertrains.
Mercedes-Benz was going to rebadge the Nissan Titan...

Daimler officials admitted to killing off two planned Mercedes-Benz pickups on the eve of the Frankfurt Motor Show.

Planned to be on the market before the end of 2016, sources have admitted that Benz would have rebadged a full-sized pickup off the Nissan Titan and a midsizer off the next Nissan Frontier. Inspired by Volkswagen's successes with its Amarok, Daimler negotiated with Nissan to use its truck architectures, complete with chassis, all-wheel-drive systems and suspension systems, though the latter would have received Mercedes-specific tuning.

Benz was to have gone its own way with regard to interior materials and design, though the sheetmetal changes would have been limited to the nose and the badge on the tailgate, our sources inform us. Benz engineers had already begun work at bringing the Nissans' NVH levels closer to its own expectations.

The pickups were to be Daimler's most complete transfers from its alliance with Renault-Nissan, but the dramatic expansion fell foul of Benz's demands for a wide range of engine variants, which Nissan didn't feel it could engineer the cars to accept. Mercedes-Benz sources said that the two-pickup program would only have worked if it had been allowed to tailor the engines for market demands.

Daimler also added complications by insisting on pre-engineering its version of the lighter Frontier-based pickup for potential hybrid and plug-in hybrid variants, neither of which were in Nissan's original plans.

Its not all bad news for the world's well-heeled tool twirlers, though, because Nissan sources admitted that Benz's idea for semi-premium pickups is almost certain to be picked up by its in-house premium brand, Infiniti.

One Infiniti official we spoke to on condition on anonymity told us: "We know about their pickup, but as long as they price it more enthusiastically than ours, we don't think it will impact our plans."

Aimed directly at silver-tailed tradesmen, the Mercedes-Benz pickups were to have been sold through the brand's light commercial division and would have carried short-cab, extended-cab, crew-cab and chassis-cab variants.

The pickups were among Daimler's planned shortcuts to achieve its target of doubling its sales to two million vehicles annually by 2020. Daimler isn't abandoning that target with the culling of the pickups, though, with sources pointing to 12 all-new models in the pipeline.

While the full-sized pickup was expected to be predominantly a North American player, the smaller truck would have worked best in the Australian, South American and Asian markets.

Rumors of a Mercedes-Benz pickup have circulated quietly within the automotive industry for years, but its development repeatedly saw difficulties and delays. Daimler had initial negotiations with VW to produce a Mercedes-Benz version of the Volkswagen Amarok, but the talks never gathered momentum.

But the commercial vehicle side of the deal between Benz and Renault-Nissan has also had its difficulties. The three-star score for the Renault Kangoo-based Citan compact commercial van was Daimler's worst European NCAP result in 16 years. It created enormous friction between the alliance partners, made more acute by the original Kangoo's four-star rating. Benz was forced to fit the Citan with curtain airbags and the result impacted the development of projects such as the pickup, with Daimler pushing for more early engineering input in chassis development.

There have been other friction sources, too, with Renault caught in the middle of Daimler's ongoing fight with the French government over the German company's refusal to use a new, environmentally friendlier air-conditioning refrigerant. The France banned sales of affected Mercedes-Benz vehicles and encouraged the rest of the EU's member states to follow suit. While Daimler won the subsequent court case, the French government's ownership stake in Renault placed the automaker in an invidious position.

While there have been mis-steps, there have been other successes. Infiniti's Q30 concept car from the Frankfurt Motor Show is based on the same architecture found beneath the Mercedes-Benz A- and B-classes, while next year's all-new two- and four-door Smarts will share their architecture with Renault's delayed Twingo.
This MB truck is due no more than 42 months for Job #1, as if they have already developed a full-size clay model of it, a design freeze isn't too far off (months-wise). It will definitely be launched in the 2018-2019 period worldwide. I for one, am shocked that MB would actually post any internal design work from an ongoing development programme, so early. That is unlikely to be the final design, but a discarded proposal.

I can see somewhat why they do not want to offer one in the US. (Bear in mind that I typed this days ago as post [HASHTAG]#18[/HASHTAG], but left it open in a Chrome tab. Therefore I did not see the subsequent reports that confirmed the D23 platform.)

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Get ready for the Mercedes-Benz among pickups: Mercedes-Benz Vans to launch midsize pickup

  • Expansion of product range for sustained global growth
  • Market for midsize pickups primed for first model from a premium manufacturer
  • Mercedes-Benz to enter the high-volume midsize segment before end of decade
  • Main markets: Latin America, South Africa, Australia, and Europe
Stuttgart – Before the end of the decade, Mercedes-Benz will expand its product range into a promising segment by launching the first pickup from a premium manufacturer. Thanks to their versatility, all-round utility, and payload of about one metric ton, pickups are popular across the world and thus have good sales potential.
“The Mercedes-Benz pickup will contribute nicely to our global growth targets,” says Dr. Dieter Zetsche, Chairman of the Board of Management Daimler AG and Head of Mercedes-Benz Cars Division. “We will enter this segment with our distinctive brand identity and all of the vehicle attributes that are typical of the brand with regard to safety, comfort, powertrains, and value.”
Volker Mornhinweg, Head of Mercedes-Benz Vans, adds: “As part of our ‘Mercedes-Benz Vans goes global’ strategy, the pickup is the ideal vehicle for the international expansion of our product range with a newly developed model.”

A promising segment with global scope
The midsize pickup segment is currently undergoing a transformation worldwide. More and more pickups are being used for private purposes, and commercial as well as private users are increasingly asking for vehicles that have car-like specificiations. Mercedes-Benz is the first premium manufacturer to respond to this market shift by developing its own pickup. A similar example was the successful introduction of the M-Class around 20 years ago. As the first sport utility vehicle (SUV) from a premium manufacturer, the M-Class completely redefined the segment.
The new Mercedes-Benz pickup will initially be targeted at markets in Latin America, South Africa, Australia, and Europe, all of which are posting sustained growth in this segment.

Mercedes-Benz Vans: Center of competence for commercially and privately used vehicles
The Mercedes-Benz Vans division is responsible for the new vehicle. With its many years of experience in developing, manufacturing, and marketing vehicles that are used commercially as well as privately, Mercedes-Benz Vans is ideally suited to enter the midsize pickup segment and launch a Mercedes-Benz pickup on the market for the first time in the company’s history. Current models such as the V-Class and the Vito demonstrate that Mercedes-Benz Vans has the high level of expertise to successfully serve customers from a wide variety of private and commercial sectors.
“We can perfectly serve customers looking for a vehicle that offers a high level of utility and at the same time has the comfort, safety, and design of a Mercedes-Benz passenger car,” says Mornhinweg. “We will design our brand’s first pickup according to this recipe for success.”

I intensely disagree with that. What an obtuse statement, as it's not as if this is coming from Rolls-Royce. Since when did these not exist?
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Land Rover was even first to equip both driver and passenger side airbags on an SUV in early 1994 with Discovery and Range Rover Classic (just as 944 Turbo Porsche and W126). The Geländewagen got them in 1996 of course.
 
True, Mercedes-Benz's plans for a mid-size pickup reach further back. For example at the IAA Commercial Vehicles in September 2004 MB showed the Viano Activity Concept. The front seats already swivel around like in the recently introduced F 015 Luxury in Motion. Hopefully they now found a partner to bring it to production with. :)

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The front seats swivel around like in the recently introduced F 015 Luxury in Motion.
 
Agree, the new pickup might be based on the Metris/Vito or Navara platforms, as the GLE doesn't offer the one metric ton (1000 kg) payload, it seems. :)
That's why I asked the question: Body on frame? The Vito is a unibody. And frankly like @Kowalski said it will be an Epic Fail at being a unibody design. Not even the mighty Mercedes can reinvent the wheel. Must be a shared ladder frame / body on frame in collaboration with Nissan. As VW did when the Amarok body on frame pick up came into being, for the Van series from VW is also unibody. There is a huge difference in marketing a unibody van with a loading 'tub' and a real body on frame pick up truck. Two totally different concepts. Nissan Navara + Ford Ranger + Amarok in pictures:
 

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MB has not stated yet whether it will be body-on-frame or unibody. Kowalski may be correct though, as MB has dropped some hints, also mentioning the M-Class, their first SUV in the luxury segment, in 1997, which is a body-on-frame in the first generation until 2005, with a frame weighing around 264 lbs. Thus one might well suspect this scheme may be repeated with a mid-size pickup, positioned in the so called (by MB) 'rough luxury' category. :)

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“Years ago, SUVs used to be, well, rough,” Mr. Mornhinweg, head of Mercedes-Benz Vans, said in an interview. “Then they became prettier. Now, we see the same trend in pickup trucks. We see opportunities to enter this market as the first premium brand.”

Daimler plans to build the truck in cooperation with Nissan Motor Co. using the basic framework of Nissan’s Navara and using Nissan factories to produce the vehicle, two people familiar with the situation said.

The talks, which are at an advanced stage, involve using the basic architecture of Nissan’s Navara pickup truck for the new vehicle and producing it in Nissan factories, the people said. Nissan was not immediately available for comment. The Navara is called the Frontier in some markets.

“The details are still being worked out,” one of the people said.

Mercedes-Benz would use the Navara framework, but would provide “everything with which the customer comes in contact,” the person added. That would include the powertrain, the interior, the design and other elements.

Mercedes-Benz declined to disclose any details of production plans, a specific launch date or pricing, but said it is making preparations to produce the vehicle “in large numbers” in various regions of the world within the next five years.


The truck will carry a payload of about one metric ton (2,200 pounds) and come with four- or six-cylinder engines. Mercedes-Benz is targeting Latin America, South Africa, Australia, and Europe for its debut. It says there are no current plans for a U.S. launch.

Global sales of such midsize trucks were 2.34 million vehicles last year, according to IHS Automotive, a research group. The market is growing, but it isn’t booming. Sales are expected to rise to 2.83 million by 2020, says IHS.

Mercedes-Benz is counting less on growth in the market, than on demand for trucks with greater luxury and comfort from existing buyers.

We call it rough luxury,” said Kai Sieber, director of design, brands & operations at Mercedes-Benz Vans.

The cab sports two rows of seats, easily fitting a family of four or a builder’s crew, and will contain many of the same interior components and features typical of Mercedes-Benz’s cars and vans. There will be a luxury version with leather interior and chrome furnishings. And there will be a more robust version with a washable interior for the workhorse. Source: WSJ
 
The body-on-frame chassis seems likely, but is not confirmed yet. :)

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New Mercedes pick-up truck on the way
Mercedes will add a new pick-up truck to its line-up in 2017 with high-spec passenger car and tough working versions

Mercedes is all set to enter yet another new segment – the one tonne pick-up market. Speaking to Auto Express, Mercedes vans CEO Volker Mornhinweg told us Mercedes will launch a pick-up by the end of 2017 to rival the likes of the Volkswagen Amarok.

As the sketch shows, the pick-up will use familiar Mercedes styling cues like a wide three-bar grille, swept-back headlights and curvy front wings. The overall design shares key similarities with Mercedes’ range of SUVs like the recently revealed GLE and GLE Coupe, and features a double-cab arrangement on a ladder chassis with a single cab under consideration. Towards the rear, Auto Express understands there are slim taillights either side of a wide tailgate and the rear bumper can be removed to aid the loading of large objects.

Under the bonnet, the newcomer will use four- and six-cylinder petrol and diesel engines paired with manual and automatic transmissions. A petrol-hybrid variant is likely to arrive later.

Inside Mercedes is keen to make the pick-up feel like any other passenger car in its range, so we can expect a familiar design and focus on technology seen on the recent Mercedes V-Class MPV. Posh features like a floating tablet-like central screen and the latest active safety and driver assistance are expected, but to make sure the pick-up can handle a rugged way of life, it’ll more than likely use tough plastics as well.

The new, as-yet unnamed pick-up will sit alongside the existing Mercedes-Benz light commercial vehicles range of Sprinter, Metris, Vito and Citan vans. And just like the Metris/Vito panel van and V-Class MPV, it’s believed Mercedes will offer two versions of the pick-up for different markets: Commercial and a plusher high-spec model for passenger car duties – the latter featuring big car equipment like leather and wood trim.

The new pick-up will not only widen Mercedes’ car and passenger model range, but will also allow the German company to take a share of the lucrative pick-up market which currently accounts for 2.3 million sales globally. It’s thought Volkswagen’s decision to enter the sector with the Amarok in 2010 has forced Mercedes’ hand – the Amarok set new standards in the class by being a step-up in image over the likes of the Mitsubishi L200 and Ford Ranger, and it taps into a growing trend of buyers wanting pick-ups with more car-like features.

Volker Mornhinweg has given the project the green light – his arrival five years ago has led to Mercedes rethinking its business model by offering more global products rather than purely focusing on Europe. Mercedes’ other commercial vehicles are already sold internationally – the Sprinter, for example, is sold in 130 markets and produced in five different factories.

With its new pick-up, Mercedes is expected to do what it did with the M-Class two decades ago – help to redefine the segment by offering a product that focuses more on comfort and luxury but that still offers a decent slug of off-road ability and ruggedness.

Mercedes’ styling studios in USA and Asia all submitted sketches but the final design was from Mercedes’ Sindelfingen studio. It’s expected to reach Mercedes van dealerships by the end of 2017.

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/mercedes/90977/new-mercedes-pick-up-truck-on-the-way
 
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Mercedes-Benz may bring pickup to U.S. market


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— Daimler AG's Mercedes-Benz USA unit chief said the German automaker is studying whether to bring a small pickup to the United States — but if it did, it wouldn't be before 2018.

"It is something we are going to look at," Stephen Cannon, president and CEO of Mercedes-Benz USA, said on the sidelines of the New York International Auto Show. "We're going to evaluate and see if it makes sense for the U.S. market. This is the largest pickup market in the world."

Last week, Daimler said that by the end of the decade it would launch the first pickup from a premium manufacturer. Cannon said he likes the design of the pickup and thinks there are American luxury buyers who would embrace it. He noted that in nearby Greenwich, Conn., there are many pickup owners in the well-heeled community.

But BMW North America President Ludwig Willisch said his company would not build a pickup. "We haven't even thought about it," Willisch told The Detroit News in an interview.

"They aren't going to job sites," Cannon said. "There are customers in Mercedes-Benz demographics that can afford a Mercedes-Benz pickup. ... It's got to feel like a luxury product — even though it's going to compete in a pickup segment."

Cannon said a decision on a U.S. pickup could be a year away. He said it wouldn't come to the United States until 2018 or 2019 at the earliest.

"The Mercedes-Benz pickup will contribute nicely to our global growth targets," says Dieter Zetsche, chairman of the board of management for Daimler AG and head of the Mercedes-Benz Cars division. "We will enter this segment with our distinctive brand identity and all of the vehicle attributes that are typical of the brand with regard to safety, comfort, powertrains and value."

The midsize pickup segment is transforming, Daimler said. The Mercedes-Benz pickup will initially be targeted at markets in Latin America, South Africa, Australia and Europe, all of which are posting sustained growth in this segment.

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Well Mercedes make buses, trucks and vans already, this is just normal business. Nothing new here!

Finally someone with a sensible comment. This isn't being made by the car division, it's being designed and built by the commercial vehicle division, it's a workhorse first and a play thing second.
 
That's why I asked the question: Body on frame? The Vito is a unibody. And frankly like @Kowalski said it will be an Epic Fail at being a unibody design. Not even the mighty Mercedes can reinvent the wheel. Must be a shared ladder frame / body on frame in collaboration with Nissan. As VW did when the Amarok body on frame pick up came into being, for the Van series from VW is also unibody. There is a huge difference in marketing a unibody van with a loading 'tub' and a real body on frame pick up truck. Two totally different concepts. Nissan Navara + Ford Ranger + Amarok in pictures:

Ford and Holden would disagree with you, the Ford and Holden Utes are unibody, they are tough, reliable and work in conditions just as demanding as anything South Africa has.

But as many have mentioned the Mercedes Ute will be most likely based on a Nissan so it won't be unibody.
 
Very weird move from MB. Cadillac stopped selling the Escalade EXT with the latest generation. Lincoln is also not doing well. Who are they targeting ?
 
Who are they targeting ?

Midsize pickups. :)


Mercedes officials were not saying much about the truck's specs. But the company has been eyeing the growing global market for midsize trucks. The company said the midsize truck will be aimed initially at four markets: Latin America, Australia, South Africa and Europe.

In those markets, the Mercedes pickup would compete against the Ford Ranger, Volkswagen Amarok and Toyota Hilux trucks.

Daimler Chairman Dieter Zetsche said in a statement. "The Mercedes-Benz pickup will contribute nicely to our global growth targets." Source: Automotive News
 
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