S-Class (W223) Mercedes-Benz S-Class (W223) Facelift

[Swissbob]

The styling was largely the same, but the technology was going to be barely updated. They were basically betting on a huge push for electric vehicles and relatively stark drop off in ICE sales. It would've been more like the current GLE's first facelift.

Very interesting.

Obviously most other companies expected a big push for EVs as well.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/stellantis-swings-22-billion-annual-091333080.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAMeC_EgiDy7IDtT4oZ2s_VNKjdFbpMKdz-gjrStjBDyEqujU1YhFbAy-V0w9UdTCaFINCyx3zOiOjbrkgGq9JC_yIiW3whdFGQN-e4u-NKFiVsM8VITtF_Zno_XuJ1bf6DTN2r232egwQCGTrS75EZVlpwYp3_kxGJEWSn5uoQIl

 

[leylandi]

I predicted this when the frenzy of electric vehicle investments began. Companies over-invested, and their strategies went awry, just as I expected. BMW acted rationally by remaining neutral. It optimized its existing product range and maintained it at the lowest possible cost.

 

[SKY]

We need to sell one to someone

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Discreet trolling is also boring.

 

[Merc1]

Discreet trolling is also boring.

I don’t understand how or why he’s here.

M

 

[leylandi]

I remember BMW sending 40 G70s to be used at an event. But it didn't really work out.

Travelling by BMW i7 to the G7 summit at Schloss Elmau. BMW Group provides locally emission-free shuttle service for the meeting of heads of state and government, and announces its new generation of high-security vehicles – including, for the first t

The heads of state and government from the world’s most important industrialised nations convened at Schloss Elmau in Upper Bavaria on 26 – 28 June 2022 for the latest G7 summit. The BMW Group provided a shuttle service for the event, which was initiated by the German government. As well as the...

www.press.bmwgroup.com

 

[Merc1]

BMW and Toyota are just very shrewdly run companies. They both weathered the chip crisis well too.

M

 

[Design FIRST]

BMW and Toyota are just very shrewdly run companies. They both weathered the chip crisis well too.

M

Of the German manufacturers, BMW AG and it's board of directors played their cards best. Me, a former skeptic, is tipping my hat to them in recognizing a very difficult job done well. Alas, I cannot say this for the other German manufacturers. Especially M-B has left me disappointed. A company that has such a vast portfolio of innovative technological solutions, once pristine brand equity and an impressive roster of highly accomplished engineers, should be doing far, far better. As for VAG, Audi has simply disappointed on many counts. Porsche, although it's treasure chest of innovations is so extensive, it's brand equity seemingly invincible, has recently been appearing...simply lost somehow and not really quite clear of exactly where it is heading.

 

[Rolf]

BMW and Toyota are just very shrewdly run companies. They both weathered the chip crisis well too.

M

I think BMW did very well to avoid a slump in sales and shortage of chips during COVID, this one of the reasons their reliability rankings were up higher during the last 3 years of car ownership as they experienced less issues than other rivals with their infotainment systems and other electronic systems having glitches. Mercedes Benz was hit hard by the chip shortage and their reliability ratings have slumped due to the issues experienced during COVID.

 

[SKY]

I don’t understand how or why he’s here.

M

Mod team is full of people with an infinite patience. These weirdos that get banned from here for their insane obsession with a f*cking car company, should never been allowed to come back. They always start low profile but return to their tiresome ways after a while. Always the same story.

If a mod reads this, I would like to encourage you guys to consider being more strict with these people.

 

[Rolf]

Mod team is full of people with an infinite patience. These weirdos that get banned from here for their insane obsession with a f*cking car company, should never been allowed to come back. They always start low profile but return to their tiresome ways after a while. Always the same story.

If a mod reads this, I would like to encourage you guys to consider being more strict with these people.

I think many of us get annoyed when these previous members who come back, start their same repetitive argumentative stupid tactics with their obsession with a brand etc. This then adds useless long argumentative posts to a thread which become irritating to look at when we get notifications for new posts. The mods should take some considerations to give strict warnings or penalizations of like 2days banning for these old members.

 

[Design FIRST]

I suspect that in the very most cases, forum members participating in conversations, discussions, debates and full-blast arguments do not know each other personally and hence have never engaged person-to-person, face-to-face, eye-to-eye. Basically, faceless fingers typing on keyboards as a sole vehicle in order to transport thoughts, ideas and opinions. Making the effort to not let the conversation stray from automobiles/automotive issues (even though they can sometime become "political") is an effort well invested. After all, this is the common denominator. Let past conduct slide. People change-often for the better. Enbrace a bit more stoicism.

My 2 Euro cents.