S-Class (W223) Mercedes-Benz S-Class (W223) Facelift

[leylandi]

The 222 and 223 aren't fundamentally different cars. As far as I know, they both use the same platform. So 20% is a good percentage.

 

[Nikita6996]

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[McLaren64TR]

Looking at the shared images, frankly, nothing really impresses me.

The grille lighting, as I said before, is completely copied from BMW.

The W223, considering the last four generations, is, in my opinion, the least exciting S-Class model.

 

[Uygar]

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Is this some sort of a leak or AI?

 

[Uygar]

Looking at the shared images, frankly, nothing really impresses me.

The grille lighting, as I said before, is completely copied from BMW.

The W223, considering the last four generations, is, in my opinion, the least exciting S-Class model.

How dare you say “copied” !!!

 

[Esp5]

Looking at the shared images, frankly, nothing really impresses me.

The grille lighting, as I said before, is completely copied from BMW.

The W223, considering the last four generations, is, in my opinion, the least exciting S-Class model.

I don't know if it's a copy or not, but it would make more sense for the inner bars of the grille to be illuminated, rather than just the outline, which is completely unremarkable.

I always found the W223 quite indecipherable compared to the W222 unless you look at the headlights or taillights.

 

[Merc1]

Little recap of some official information shared by MB with journalists who attended the car’s pre-preview :

• New V8 Engine: The new flat-plane crank V8, named the M177 EVO, will debut in the S580. Specifications are approximately 537 hp and 750 Nm. It features a mHEV BSG (Belt-driven Starter Generator) hybrid system—meaning no full-electric coasting—and is fully Euro 7 compliant.
• S580e PHEV Updates: The plug-in hybrid will also see improvements. The 3.0L engine increases from 367 hp to 449 hp, and the electric motor receives a boost of about 10 hp, bringing the total output to 585 hp.
• Engine Lineup: The S350d, S450d, S450, and S500 models are confirmed. Both diesel variants will be equipped with an electrically heated catalyst.
• Major Investment: The Mercedes CEO mentioned a significant investment for this facelift, with roughly 50% of the components redesigned (approximately 2,700 parts).
• Design Changes: Aesthetically, the front grille has grown in size, and—as previously noted—the front and rear light signatures will feature three-pointed stars.
• Software: The MB.OS has been overhauled to provide a more "intuitive and personal" experience.
• Suspension: While the hardware of the E-Active Body Control system remains the same, it can now receive data from other Mercedes vehicles via the cloud (Car-to-X), allowing it to adapt preemptively to road surface conditions.

Via : Autoexpress, Carmagazine, Autocar

Wow the S580e is going to be a beast.

M

 

[Merc1]

They already do the road scanning. They've been doing that since Curve Control was introduced as part of e-ABC

Don’t bother. The source is hosed.

M

 

[McLaren64TR]

How dare you say “copied” !!!

I know some people will be upset about this, but this grille lighting is a feature completely copied from BMW.

 

[klier]

As if that is something to be proud of. These lit up grilles are horrible.

 

[Uygar]

As if that is something to be proud of. These lit up grilles are horrible.

Totally depends on the car. I love it on the BMW’s.

 

[kiki voinea]

I know some people will be upset about this, but this grille lighting is a feature completely copied from BMW.

They added the illuminated star , just to be one copy step ahead

 

[McLaren64TR]

They added the illuminated star , just to be one copy step ahead

This is an innovation that BMW cannot respond to.

 

[Merc1]

I’m reading on motor1 where the facelift is getting…….heated seatbelts!

https://www.motor1.com/news/784995/mercedes-s-class-heated-seatbelts/

M

 

[Jacke]

I’m reading on motor1 where the facelift is getting…….heated seatbelts!

https://www.motor1.com/news/784995/mercedes-s-class-heated-seatbelts/

M

not needed,they could try with different door panels tho

 

[AbsoluteUnit]

I’m reading on motor1 where the facelift is getting…….heated seatbelts!

https://www.motor1.com/news/784995/mercedes-s-class-heated-seatbelts/

M

That's pretty funny, but I'm sure those customers who live in cold places are probably gonna love it

 

[Mr. Mercedes]

Let me reiterate, so that the rushed fanboys stop hitting those keys

When I said road scanning , I meant real road scanning ( Lidar aka lasers , or radars )

I have driven the W223 , and felt nothing revolutionary . Maybe like 10-20% better than W222.

Cameras are not that great for truly understanding things (ahem , Tesla )

Again, I would suggest the fanboys to see that video again , and focus on the jiggles

20% better than a W222 is significant.

You are beating a dead horse.

What is the problem with a system that is relying on both radars and communications? You are coming up with BS based on some promotional footage.

Everyone here knows the ride quality of the S-class is fantastic, and in some iterations possibly still an industry benchmark. It would take some pretty comprehensive testing between the 7, RR and Maybachs to determine which exactly provides the ultimate experience in terms of NVH and ride quality.

We get it. You loved the W222, hated the W223. Move on to the 7-series thread which obviously is still tikling your fancy.

 

[bialkov]

 

[Merc1]

That's pretty funny, but I'm sure those customers who live in cold places are probably gonna love it

Yep.

M

 

[Merc1]

not needed,they could try with different door panels tho

Yep. Agree. If you’re going to spend development money on something like this then……

M