Merc1 said:Though MB's own photos rarely make their cars look their best, the CLS is still gorgeous. I can't wait to see what they do at facelift time. I know the usual switch from a 4-slat to 3-slat grille is a given, but what else could they do? The car just got the new V8, Pre-safe and regular brakes (like the E-Class which it is based on) so it will be interesting to see what else they can do for the CLS.
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Mr. Mercedes said:Facelift must be 2 years or so off still no? For now it's gorgeous and doesnt need a touch up. But it's still got at least 5 more years to soldier on, so undoubtedly benz is planning a thorough working over to keep it competitive when the Audi and BMW coupes hit.
I just love this new 500 engine and 7 speed btw. It seems like benz is offering a huge bargain when you compare it to the old drivetrain. A huge improvement. Undoubtedly theres still more ponies to be squeezed out with direct injection.![]()
Roberto said:Oh yes Artist, I do think it looks good.
I love the way you said my opinion was "cool"
......of course I know you probably want to throw grenades at my house![]()
J/K

Thanks Hussein, you have explained that well -- although I still feel the CLS probably would not have existed if Daimler-Benz had not merged with Chrysler.hu§eindesign said:Surely the CLS is a totally new Mercedes concerrning its design. but nontheless it's still a mercedes.
The L-shaped headlights: it was just a matter of time until we would see it happen. they bacame expectable since the launching of the w220 S-class. well for me at least.
The triangular rear lights: one of Mercedes's most influental design elements on the automobil industry. They're here just a bit differently sculptured.
The character line: we saw it first on the first GST concept of 2002 and knew that it will be a new design element in coming Mercedes models. the treatment of the front fender is also inspired by the first GST concept.
The falling butt: we also started seeing it in a detuned form on the W220 S-class and the follwing models (C, E, CLK). The idea of the CLS as a dynamic sedan with the shape beauty of a coupé give the deisgners the chance continue using this styling in a more dominant way to harmonize with the whole silhouette of the car.
I think you don't see American or Japanese styling cues there Roberto. It's just the fact that Japanese and American car maker are more daring in terms of design the Germans, esp. Mercedes. It's right that Mercedes is known for openening new segments and discovering new niches everywhere, but they were never that radical in visualizing their ideas. It's just like they show others the example and let the other come with their ideas to make the new segment moreappealing by presenting more daring designs than those of MB.
In the case of the CLS, design was standing at the top of the list. The car was designed to revive emotions and to impress with its presens and dynamic lines, that's why MB designers were given more freedom to go wild. And the result was a designers' dream: A car that looks like its whole design process was based on sketches and not realistic renderings or 3D models.
i agree with you that it's not a typical MB or a typical German car but that's how I look at it![]()
Roberto said:You know, the more I look at the CLS, the more I think it doesn't look like a Mercedes-Benz at all -- in fact, it doesn't even look German -- it's more Japanese/American -- I can easily imagine it as a Lexus.
I know I will upset some people here, including my good friend Marcus ..but I mean this in all sincerity.
Although it shares some similar stylistic details with the CLS, the new CL looks much more like a "real" Mercedes.
....now I'll sit here and wait for the death threats to start rolling in.
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