Videos Mercedes-AMG GT 4-door vs Tesla Model S vs Porsche Panamera Turbo S vs BMW M5 Competition
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CrunchSlaughtered
RPM Ruler
Recently the guys at CARCOW have some problems with the aplying of the BoP
SCOTT27
Drift Dynamo
Straight line races are meaningless.
Seriously other than a race track or the Autobahn. Where will they unleash that potential? On the streets? Well some do especially in London. Others no. Because it's illegal.
Any car can drive in a straight line.
Are they the best on a true road? Some expensive performance cars do not meet those requirements in that respect even though they are fast on a straight run. If this is why you purchase a Performance car to be fastest from the lights when they turn green?
then....
Seriously other than a race track or the Autobahn. Where will they unleash that potential? On the streets? Well some do especially in London. Others no. Because it's illegal.
Any car can drive in a straight line.
Are they the best on a true road? Some expensive performance cars do not meet those requirements in that respect even though they are fast on a straight run. If this is why you purchase a Performance car to be fastest from the lights when they turn green?
then....
DjordjeC63
Vorsprung Visionary
So the Tesla with the shittiest brakes and tyres stopped better than the others... LOL
This is from Zeperfs, on left Tesla S 100d, on right is AMG GT63s.
Sometimes carwow looks like Tesla marketing, they never want to test it on track to make hotlap.
SCOTT27
Drift Dynamo
This is from Zeperfs, on left Tesla S 100d, on right is AMG GT63s.
Sometimes carwow looks like Tesla marketing, they never want to test it on track to make hotlap.
Was it true that a Tesla could not complete a lap of the Ring?
DjordjeC63
Vorsprung Visionary
DjordjeC63
Vorsprung Visionary
p.s. should we call this an issue?
When it comes to perfomance - straight line, acceleration numbers - that's what really matters. Nobody races these cars on tracks. +-
DjordjeC63
Vorsprung Visionary
The last time I though overheating was an issue with a car was a brief period during my undergraduate years, when I had borrowed my grandfather's Renault 5. That thing was as if it wasn't meant to be used at all!
Now I am thinking, do all electric cars have those heat issues? Or Tesla made their car so fast on force? Basically when your Tesla heats you dont have that same car that you read in brochure and paid for (performance wise).
And if it heated in minutes in German summer, what would happen in Spain or Balkan summer?
Shut your damn mouth heretic!
Straightline races are some of the greatest.. just not when it's carwho, and not when it's roadcars...
M.N.D
Oversteer Expert
QFT my friend
racing matters when race cars are involved.I'm kind of surprised that a post of mine consists of only 2 lines... that's a progress!
MR Simon
Bavarian Cruiser
correct. in my country where roads are very narrow with long trucks and buses that straight line power for overtaking is important.
CrunchSlaughtered
RPM Ruler
Do you think you need more than 600 hp to overtake a bus or a truck? These cars have too much power and a normal driver could never exploit it 100%.
Lupusmajor
Schwarzwald Sprinter
Or driver of BMW m5 was totally incompetent, or the car was broken. It would be not the first time to get a broken car for a test.
Lupusmajor
Schwarzwald Sprinter
This drag races are joust funny. For me is the proper way to do the test ONE DRIVER AGAINST THE CLOCK, ON THE SAME DAY WHIT ALL TESTED CAR'S.
manuelf
Kraftkurve King
Disagree to some extent.
The question simply is: What can you deduce from such numbers for a cars general driving experience?
If this is important to you, I personally would test/compare straigh line accellerations from rolling starts (with some higher speeds) and lap times. Why? Because in my world, people doing traffic light racing with their high powered cars are either 16 years old or mentally handicapped.
Accelleration capabilities from a roll are useful in many real world driving scenarios.
Good laptimes do underline a competent chassis, which you would then also feel on twisty roads ... so it directly leads to "driving pleasure".
The F90 did prove many times, that it is able to achieve low 11 sec. runs over 1/4 mile.
Whether in this test the test car had a problem or the driver wasn't able to do it right ... who knows.
I would also concede, that different OEMs do emphasize this aspect differently! Porsche (at least for its 911 series) is known for heavily investing in the launch from stand still capabilities and make it extremely durable! I appreciate this. So this is some aspect you might expect from Porsche to justify its extreme price premium?
Personally I don't care. With neither my E92 M3 nor my F82 M4 I did any LC start at all ... it is serious stress to any drivetrain, which does not make any sense to me... on the other hand I did push both to its limits on the Autobahn and backroads regularly
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