Lucid Lucid Air Concept

[Bridster]

That's cool, but... Lucid Motors Slashes 2022 Production Target in Half; Shares Sink

Originally they planned to make 20000 cars in 2022, then after the first quarter - where they delivered only 360 cars - they slashed that down to 12-14000, and now after the second quarter where they delivered only additional 679 cars, they further revised their target for the year to 6000-7000. Which, looking at how the first half of the year went, seems very optimistic at that.

While the car is technically very strong and they certainly have the orders, it seems they have having huge problems getting the production going. Having a super high performance tri-motor version that they will be able to sell at a premium at low volumes might be helpful, but in the grand scheme of things it's only a minor thing.

Either way, I am still curious what the specs will look like...

 

[Cashmere]

That's cool, but... Lucid Motors Slashes 2022 Production Target in Half; Shares Sink

Originally they planned to make 20000 cars in 2022, then after the first quarter - where they delivered only 360 cars - they slashed that down to 12-14000, and now after the second quarter where they delivered only additional 679 cars, they further revised their target for the year to 6000-7000. Which, looking at how the first half of the year went, seems very optimistic at that.

While the car is technically very strong and they certainly have the orders, it seems they have having huge problems getting the production going. Having a super high performance tri-motor version that they will be able to sell at a premium at low volumes might be helpful, but in the grand scheme of things it's only a minor thing.

Either way, I am still curious what the specs will look like...

Lucid desperately needs some good news. Scaling production is insanely hard. The tri motor has been in the works since the original unveil and Im expecting it to beat the plaid in terms of performance to grab any meaningful attention.

 

[kiki voinea]

Lucid desperately needs some good news. Scaling production is insanely hard. The tri motor has been in the works since the original unveil and Im expecting it to beat the plaid in terms of performance to grab any meaningful attention.

Worked for Tesla ... ( Just look at all the products they listed and never got )

 

[Cashmere]

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[TopspeedPT]

Lucid Air Sapphire

over 1,200 horsepower (895 kilowatts)

An electric motor powering each rear wheel and a third motor turning the front axle

0-60 mph(96 km/h): < 2s
0-100 mph(161 km/h): < 4s
0-60 mph(96 km/h): < 2s
1/4: < 9s

(All with no further modifications or protracted preconditioning routines)

Starts at $249,000

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[Bridster]

Hmm, "over 1200hp"... that should be a lot over 1200hp if they claim to be 1s faster in the quarter than the Air Dream which has 1111hp.

Also, times with "no further modification", but at a drag strip with roll-out substracted ... Still, pretty impressive if true.

 

[Cashmere]

Digging the wheel covers and the beefy brakes. Just wish this was going on sale right away as opposed to 2023. The market is going to look very different next year.

 

[Joelpeyeye]

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[Merc1]

Yikes. Germany's headache is approaching migraine level.

M

 

[martinbo]

Pity that their ability to actually manufacture in proper numbers is lacking.

 

[Ghost1]

Too expensive. 250k

 

[BMW4ever]

Too expensive. 250k

+1. How much does an extra motor really cost?

But the killer is it's too Ford Granada Scorpio, or too any large car of the late 80s/early 90s, where aero was premium - like EVs now:

- like an abandoned F-segment Acura from the mid-90s.

Peter Rawlinson has finally realised that people don't buy $100k, or more, EVs because of efficiency, or saving the world, but because they're sexy or have some utlility - Taycan for the former, rich soccer mum/younger trophy wife for the iX, E-tron.

A large 4-door sedan, with what looks like a hatch back, is not sexy - even with black/charcoal wheels, everything.

In fact, the closest comparison is probably the 2009-2019 Jaguar XJ, which disastrously also looked like an oversize hatchback, and the antithesis of previous. slinky, sexy Jag sedans, where the body dominated the glasshouse, or appeared to do - 'how much bogroll can you fit in the back of that, in its ginormous hatch opening boot?'.

another swing and a miss from Rawlinson the engineer, who doesn't get the selling bit.

 

[A.P.]

Plaid is like $150 000 without FSD?
How is this a Plaid killer when it costs $100 000 more and will likely deliver the same performance with a lot more hp?

 

[Sunny]

Plaid US base price is 136k. 21" wheels adds 4.5k. Ceramic brake kit is 20k. So roughly equivalent cost - 160k.

 

[CrunchSlaughtered]

Plaid is like $150 000 without FSD?
How is this a Plaid killer when it costs $100 000 more and will likely deliver the same performance with a lot more hp?

And the Plaid is, most probably, not 1020 hp. Each of the three motors can deliever 400 hp so it is battery limited to 1020 hp. But they constantly improve the cells increasing their power factor, so I wouldn't be surprised if in certain circumstances the car can have 1200 hp.

 

[AndreB]

Useless, they should bring to the market the Model 3 killer. I'm selling all Lucid stocks, this company is dead.

 

[Centurion]

Useless, they should bring to the market the Model 3 killer. I'm selling all Lucid stocks, this company is dead.

The next car will be an SUV. I don’t think a Model 3 competitor will be a priority over the coming 5 years.

 

[Centurion]

Peter Rawlinson has finally realised that people don't buy $100k, or more, EVs because of efficiency, or saving the world, but because they're sexy or have some utlility - Taycan for the former, rich soccer mum/younger trophy wife for the iX, E-tron.

Correct. No one buys a $100,000 EV because they went to save on fuel or are short on money.

This car has 5th element vibes and looks sexy as hell.

 

[BMW4ever]

Correct. No one buys a $100,000 EV because they went to save on fuel or are short on money.

This car has 5th element vibes and looks sexy as hell.

it didn't please the weather gods.

In the 'light' of day, it still looks like a 90s 'aero' car. It's too 'blobular', too upturned jelly mould, made worse with those dustbin lid wheel covers. The Taycan is almost identical in size, but manages to escape this, probably because of the 'coke bottling' of the waist line. and the 'haunching' of the wheelarches. The Taycan is also in fact a 2+2, making no bones it's not a family hauler, escaping the non-sexy tag. Men buy Taycans. They know it's a sports car with 2 superfluous doors. Who buys a Lucid Air? A family man, down to earth, responsible? He'd baulk at $150k or more, even if very rich. His wife would buy the car - a practical family-hauler, SUV - she'd wear the pants.

Rawlinson is an excellent engineer, but the sooner he gets out the SUV car the better. Because the air is rapidly escaping the Air.

 

[klugscheisser87]

Correct. No one buys a $100,000 EV because they went to save on fuel or are short on money.

This car has 5th element vibes and looks sexy as hell.

Plaid and Lucid Air are the yesterdays M5 for the generation we are already not.

Amazing vehicle and tech.