Lucid is a luxury EV maker founded in 2007. Majority-owned by the Saudi PIF, it builds the ultra-efficient Air sedan and Gravity SUV. Official: Lucid
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Interior design, color palette and being different...
It had already been seen in some concepts of other brands and it looks quite good or interesting at least, going further the Z4 concept had its only two front seats of different colors and it was subtly cool, combining and very much in accordance with its interior environment
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With all the quality issues of this car; maybe they put different seats by error….?
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It used to be pretty common back in the day, the driver would have different colour and often materials than the wealthy owners in the back.
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Still, a factory monochrome interior option by Lucid would be nice.
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EQS build quality is far worse - link
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Not sure about packaging. A number of reviews have demonstrated the EQS has the most comfortable rear accommodations and in fact the knee height when seated in the Air is just downright awkward.
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There's a lot of images of the Lucid's rear seats, many of which I believe are deliberately misleading.
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There's a lot of images of the Lucid's rear seats, many of which I believe are deliberately misleading.
I dunno...
Couldn't the fella in the back seat of the Lucid have comfortably extended his legs forward, hence providing a less cramped posture ?
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Yeah he could have. But the seat squab still looks short and the height to the floor not generous.
The other image I posted which shows the front seats are actually recessed at a level below the rear footwell (completely opposite to the Taycans foot garages), further drives the point home that the rear floor is actually very high. Maybe on the higher capacity battery vehicles?
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I believe that actually is the case with the Lucid(s).
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So far the sales are not looking terribly good. This article from March 1st says they only delivered 300 cars up to that point in 2022 and they lowered the goal for 2022 overall from the initial 20000 units, to 12-14000 units (and even that seems a bit optimistic at this point). It's worth nothing that Tesla is selling about 10000 Model Ss annually, which have more versions and are cheaper than the top version of the Air (which is the only model Lucid plan to sell in 2022).
With such meager numbers I wonder how long it's gonna take for them to start making getting money back on the initial investment. It took Tesla like 10 years to start being profitable and that was only after they introduced the Model 3 and Y. Lucid, who are positioning themselves as a luxury company, will have to accomplish the same with much lower number of cars produced. The next car they are planning to make is a luxury SUV - which could be a big earner, but at the same time it's gonna be in a segment that's getting crowded very quickly.
With such meager numbers I wonder how long it's gonna take for them to start making getting money back on the initial investment. It took Tesla like 10 years to start being profitable and that was only after they introduced the Model 3 and Y. Lucid, who are positioning themselves as a luxury company, will have to accomplish the same with much lower number of cars produced. The next car they are planning to make is a luxury SUV - which could be a big earner, but at the same time it's gonna be in a segment that's getting crowded very quickly.
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Comparing Lucid to Tesla is not fair, because:
1.Lucid had the perfect timing for releasing the car -> post-pandemic when available cars were limited , so Lucid was a good alternative to whatever car was not available ( including Tesla Model S )
2. Tesla is not selling 10000 Model S per year. They sold 10000 Model S last year . Not bad for a almost decade old design. In Q1 2022 they sold around 10000 Model S ( Facelift one ) , and demand is still there . It's just that Tesla does not care about Model S/X... ( I personally have an order for Model X for almost one year now )
3.Tesla was the new dog , under dog. Lucid walks on Tesla's footprint. If it wasn't for Tesla , Lucid would had not sold 10 cars at that price point. They proved that an over 100.000USD car is worth the price
And as I said in the past pages , LET THEM DELIVER 10-20-100.000 cars.
It's easy to keep tracking a few hundred cars . Pretty hard to keep the same pace at >100.000 cars ( fit & finish , service , etc. )
1.Lucid had the perfect timing for releasing the car -> post-pandemic when available cars were limited , so Lucid was a good alternative to whatever car was not available ( including Tesla Model S )
2. Tesla is not selling 10000 Model S per year. They sold 10000 Model S last year . Not bad for a almost decade old design. In Q1 2022 they sold around 10000 Model S ( Facelift one ) , and demand is still there . It's just that Tesla does not care about Model S/X... ( I personally have an order for Model X for almost one year now )
3.Tesla was the new dog , under dog. Lucid walks on Tesla's footprint. If it wasn't for Tesla , Lucid would had not sold 10 cars at that price point. They proved that an over 100.000USD car is worth the price
And as I said in the past pages , LET THEM DELIVER 10-20-100.000 cars.
It's easy to keep tracking a few hundred cars . Pretty hard to keep the same pace at >100.000 cars ( fit & finish , service , etc. )
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FWIW, Lucid scored an order for 100k cars from Saudi Arabia over 10 years. https://insideevs.com/news/582319/l...hicle-order-from-saudi-arabia-over-ten-years/
But look at them now, they are minting money. 33% gross profit margin in Q1!
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That's interesting... if very questionable. What exactly is the Saudi government planning to do with 100k Lucid Airs? Saudi Arabia has a grand total of 14 electric chargers at the moment. This is just them buying their own cars with their own money (and then dumping them in the desert for all we know).
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heres my spin: this is a me too deal (let's get the stock up) after tesla and polestar locked in big time deals and it means nothing in real life.
The Saudis (Middle East indirectly) are invested in Lucid and they MUST transfer to EVs and renewables asap. Locking in 100k cars in a time where global car production has lost 15 Mn cars in 20 months is easy. Everybody needs cars. Just look at their multiple billion company Velocity that is about to take off.
What I would like to see is that deal audited: contract, financials, handovers, invoicing, revenue recognition, everything.
The Saudis (Middle East indirectly) are invested in Lucid and they MUST transfer to EVs and renewables asap. Locking in 100k cars in a time where global car production has lost 15 Mn cars in 20 months is easy. Everybody needs cars. Just look at their multiple billion company Velocity that is about to take off.
What I would like to see is that deal audited: contract, financials, handovers, invoicing, revenue recognition, everything.
The plan is to use them as official state cars, think of the way Cadillacs/Chevys are used by the US Govt.
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Not just "invested"! The Saudi Arabia Private Investment Fund is the majority shareholder of Lucid Group.
Saudi Arabia owns more than half of Lucid Motors
New details on the $1 billion investment emerge.
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Lucid is scheduled to officially open its first German "Studio", located in Munich, in approx. two weeks time. First deliveries are scheduled for July.
It will be interesting to see how German consumers respond.
It will be interesting to see how German consumers respond.
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