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Lucid is a luxury EV maker founded in 2007. Majority-owned by the Saudi PIF, it builds the ultra-efficient Air sedan and Gravity SUV. Official: Lucid
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And it appears to go far beyond raw performance figures. Judging by most reviews so far, this seems to be quite the gem of an automobile in general.
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Indeed. It is head and shoulders above everything else they have tested.
And more than just raw range what is even more impressive is that it's more efficient than a Model 3 LR despite being bigger car and 2x the power.
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^ Crazy numbers. America is back.
Pretty wild considering it's beating the benchmark with two fingers in its much bigger nose.
The EQS is only that in name. It has nothing whatsoever to do with an S class like we know them (in terms of refinement/quality, etc), and a G30 5er appears to be of higher quality, with just as much luxury and features, if not more so.
I suppose the Lucid is on 7er level (we'll see soon enough), but the EQS is not an S class level. 7er will be S class level, and far above the EQS from what I've seen with that interior preview (and rear VIP seats very similar to the Lucid Air in fact...).
Pretty wild considering it's beating the benchmark with two fingers in its much bigger nose.
The EQS is only that in name. It has nothing whatsoever to do with an S class like we know them (in terms of refinement/quality, etc), and a G30 5er appears to be of higher quality, with just as much luxury and features, if not more so.
I suppose the Lucid is on 7er level (we'll see soon enough), but the EQS is not an S class level. 7er will be S class level, and far above the EQS from what I've seen with that interior preview (and rear VIP seats very similar to the Lucid Air in fact...).
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Why would you buy Lucid? They buy their batteries from LG and Samsung. Granted their total package is unmatched right now, but I do not see why a future next gen BEV OEM wouldn't use the next version of these batteries if they wanted..
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@klido they not develop their own batteries ?? Are they not the suppliers of formula E batteries
On the part of buying them out they are funded by huge Saudi investment those people roll in money i can't see them selling on trh contrary i could see them buy out small or battling manufacturer especially in Europe.
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I suppose you mean me, but no, according to Google the supplier for the batteries of the Dream edition is Samsung, and the supplier of the next gen cells will be LG.
Maybe the problem is old school OEM brands wanting to develop everything themselves and not rely on others to manufacture integral parts. They're too used to have everything in their own hands, but this might not work in this digital age which has now fully started.....
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Lucid's market cap is 62B. Buying it out would require paying some multiple of that. No legacy car company has that kind of capital lying around and neither is their stock worth that much more. The only car company that can possibly afford Lucid is Tesla (hope that never happens for competition sake). That probably leaves tech company like Apple/Google.
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AFAIK currently Lucid uses the same battery cells (LiIo 2170 not LFP) as the Tesla Model 3/Y.
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Indeed. It is head and shoulders above everything else they have tested.
And more than just raw range what is even more impressive is that it's more efficient than a Model 3 LR despite being bigger car and 2x the power.
Interesting to see the Taycan smashes it's EPA rated range.
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EPA doesn't test at a constant 70mph like this test. Different tests, different results.
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Sure but none of the other manufacturers (except Ford) exceeded their EPA test results in this test.
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Max power has 0 refference to the efficiency factor. A 700 kW motor can be more efficient at delivering 50 kW, than a 70 kW motor. For the energy consumption the most important factors are the efficiency of the motor and inverter at the needed for the test power (efficiency varies in the rpm range and in the type of motor - induction, permanent magnet, PM with switchable reluctance and so on) the weight of the vehicle (and here usually, but not always, the more powerful car is also the heavier), other consumers of electricity - servos, heating, processors, screens, lighting etc, the friction and the drag. Most probably the Lucid is about 1/2 t heavier than the Tesla, which makes the result even more impresive.
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A more powerful motor means that the windings and the other el components can sustain higher current or voltage, which means lower resistance at the same power, compared to a less powerful motor. And lower resistance leads the better efficiency and less generated heat.
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Nice review of an actual owner
I don't think that customer service is going to be on normal clients or when they will have more than 30000-50000 cars sold ( see Tesla )
That software is still laggy as hell , even after 5 OTA updates.
I don't think that customer service is going to be on normal clients or when they will have more than 30000-50000 cars sold ( see Tesla )
That software is still laggy as hell , even after 5 OTA updates.
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