Fisker Karma Revero (FKA: Fisker Karma) Hybrid Sports Sedan
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Fisker was a California EV maker founded in 2016. Known for the Ocean SUV and sustainable design, the company ceased operations in 2024 after bankruptcy.
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Exactly what I was going to say!
Looks stunning, one of the best designed cars I have seen in ages.
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I know I'm hella late. It's probably already mentioned in this thread, but doesn't this look like a BMW CS gone horribly wrong?
I know I'm hella late. It's probably already mentioned in this thread, but doesn't this look like a BMW CS gone horribly wrong?
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Interesting. 
The front end is repulsive.
The front end is repulsive.
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Sex appeal and eco-friendliness come together in this plug-in sedan.
With a new “eco-chic” mantra guiding the company, Fisker Automotive will shift its focus from custom-built exotics towards more environmentally friendly fare. The first product reflecting this change will be this plug-in hybrid luxury sports sedan debuting in January at the North American International Auto Show in Detroit.
As in all plug-in hybrids, the Fisker Karma sedan uses a large battery pack to deliver up to 50 miles of driving via an electric motor powering the rear wheels. Should your trip extend further than that, a small gasoline engine (about 2.0 liters) under the Fisker’s long, low hood will fire up to drive a generator and expand the car’s range to a claimed 620 miles.
As with all plug-in hybrids your mileage depends on how far you drive. If your trips are shorter than 50 miles, then the gas engine never fires up and you get infinite mpg, paying only for the electricity needed to charge your battery between trips. On a long trip, when the power is primarily delivered by the small gas engine operating in conjunction with the electric motor in series-hybrid mode, the mileage is probably around 40 mpg.
This sophisticated powertrain, dubbed Q Drive, was developed by Quantum Technologies, a supplier that has worked on hybrid powertrains for both the military and for GM for use in the Chevrolet Volt. As in the Volt, the Karma’s battery is long and thin, located in the center of the car where a driveshaft would sit in a conventional front-engine, rear-drive vehicle.
Previous Fiskers used existing vehicles as starting points, but this sedan rides on an “all-new-from-the-ground-up platform.” The construction details have not yet been revealed, but Fisker’s new Director of engineering, Thomas Fritz, worked with Henrik Fisker in the design of the BMW Z8. That car’s aluminum space-frame chassis suggests what might lie under the Fisker’s skin, which will likely be formed from either aluminum or composite panels for light weight.
Despite its environmental focus, the Fisker sedan is gorgeous. The swooping body looks like the offspring of a tryst between a Corvette Z06 and Maserati Quattroporte. Fisker took advantage of the new powertrain to mount the four seats particularly low, creating a vehicle no taller than a Porsche 911. But the machine is about 195 inches long 78 inches wide so it has plenty of space to accommodate four adults.
The sedan’s performance targets include a top speed of 125 mph and the ability to sprint to 60 mph in six seconds. The asking price will be in the $80,000 range, which is ambitiously low for such a technology-laden vehicle that will be built on a unique platform in the relatively small quantity of 15,000 per year. Fisker hopes to hold costs down by using an existing mass-produced gasoline engine and sub-contracting the manufacture of the car to a major subcontractor such as Magna or Karmann.
The good news is the Karma is more than a design concept—the car on display in Detroit is a signed-off design—essentially a pre-production car that will change very little before it goes on sale. Fisker hopes to begin production towards the end of 2009, just about when the similarly sleek Aston Martin Rapide and Porsche Panamera hit the market. It will be interesting to see if Fisker’s ambitious goals prove feasible.
Fisker Karma Hybrid Sedan - Car News - Car and Driver January 2008
I said Corvette earlier, but they're saying Maserati too. I guess I can see that.
M
With a new “eco-chic” mantra guiding the company, Fisker Automotive will shift its focus from custom-built exotics towards more environmentally friendly fare. The first product reflecting this change will be this plug-in hybrid luxury sports sedan debuting in January at the North American International Auto Show in Detroit.
As in all plug-in hybrids, the Fisker Karma sedan uses a large battery pack to deliver up to 50 miles of driving via an electric motor powering the rear wheels. Should your trip extend further than that, a small gasoline engine (about 2.0 liters) under the Fisker’s long, low hood will fire up to drive a generator and expand the car’s range to a claimed 620 miles.
As with all plug-in hybrids your mileage depends on how far you drive. If your trips are shorter than 50 miles, then the gas engine never fires up and you get infinite mpg, paying only for the electricity needed to charge your battery between trips. On a long trip, when the power is primarily delivered by the small gas engine operating in conjunction with the electric motor in series-hybrid mode, the mileage is probably around 40 mpg.
This sophisticated powertrain, dubbed Q Drive, was developed by Quantum Technologies, a supplier that has worked on hybrid powertrains for both the military and for GM for use in the Chevrolet Volt. As in the Volt, the Karma’s battery is long and thin, located in the center of the car where a driveshaft would sit in a conventional front-engine, rear-drive vehicle.
Previous Fiskers used existing vehicles as starting points, but this sedan rides on an “all-new-from-the-ground-up platform.” The construction details have not yet been revealed, but Fisker’s new Director of engineering, Thomas Fritz, worked with Henrik Fisker in the design of the BMW Z8. That car’s aluminum space-frame chassis suggests what might lie under the Fisker’s skin, which will likely be formed from either aluminum or composite panels for light weight.
Despite its environmental focus, the Fisker sedan is gorgeous. The swooping body looks like the offspring of a tryst between a Corvette Z06 and Maserati Quattroporte. Fisker took advantage of the new powertrain to mount the four seats particularly low, creating a vehicle no taller than a Porsche 911. But the machine is about 195 inches long 78 inches wide so it has plenty of space to accommodate four adults.
The sedan’s performance targets include a top speed of 125 mph and the ability to sprint to 60 mph in six seconds. The asking price will be in the $80,000 range, which is ambitiously low for such a technology-laden vehicle that will be built on a unique platform in the relatively small quantity of 15,000 per year. Fisker hopes to hold costs down by using an existing mass-produced gasoline engine and sub-contracting the manufacture of the car to a major subcontractor such as Magna or Karmann.
The good news is the Karma is more than a design concept—the car on display in Detroit is a signed-off design—essentially a pre-production car that will change very little before it goes on sale. Fisker hopes to begin production towards the end of 2009, just about when the similarly sleek Aston Martin Rapide and Porsche Panamera hit the market. It will be interesting to see if Fisker’s ambitious goals prove feasible.
Fisker Karma Hybrid Sedan - Car News - Car and Driver January 2008
I said Corvette earlier, but they're saying Maserati too. I guess I can see that.
M
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Not at all=). This car is special and if the cars delivered in late 2009 will look exactly like this one then this will be one hell of a buy. I'd happily take this over the CS concept.
Not at all=). This car is special and if the cars delivered in late 2009 will look exactly like this one then this will be one hell of a buy. I'd happily take this over the CS concept.
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I'm the kind of guy who likes the original a lot more than copies. So for me, if there was a choice between Karma and the CS, I'd go with the CS without a doubt.
I'm the kind of guy who likes the original a lot more than copies. So for me, if there was a choice between Karma and the CS, I'd go with the CS without a doubt.
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You think the Karma is a copy?
I'm the kind of guy who likes the original a lot more than copies. So for me, if there was a choice between Karma and the CS, I'd go with the CS without a doubt.
You think the Karma is a copy?
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Fisker planning 2009 European launch
Posted on Wednesday 16 January 2008
Surprisingly, one of the most exciting and advanced vehicles at this year’s Detroit Auto Show came from one of the smallest carmakers presenting at the event. The car is the new Karma plug-in hybrid saloon from Fisker Coachbuild and it’s scheduled to go into production next year. The bad news is that it will only be available in limited numbers in the U.S. and the same goes for the rest of Fisker’s range.
This may not always be the case, however, as Fisker is keen to expand sales into Europe. Speaking with Automotive News Europe, Fisker technology chief Alan Niedzwiecki explained that officials are currently searching for a suitable dealer network across Europe and that sales could start as early as next year. Fisker already has several ties with some of Europe’s biggest companies. The Fisker Latigo and Tramonto for example are based on BMW’s 6-series and the Mercedes SL, respectively, and Germany’s Asola is the supplier of solar panels for the new Karma.
Fisker hopes to build up to 15,000 units of its new Karma in the short term and is eventually planning to build up to 100,000 units annually. According to Niedzwiecki, 50% of sales are likely to be in Europe with the key market being Germany. The Karma is expected to cost upwards of $80,000 but if it proves successful Fisker eventually hopes to launch a new model costing around the $40,000 mark. In fact, Niedzwiecki claims there are currently three new models in the works. It seems Fisker Coachbuild is one company we’ll be writing about a great deal more in the future.
Posted on Wednesday 16 January 2008
Surprisingly, one of the most exciting and advanced vehicles at this year’s Detroit Auto Show came from one of the smallest carmakers presenting at the event. The car is the new Karma plug-in hybrid saloon from Fisker Coachbuild and it’s scheduled to go into production next year. The bad news is that it will only be available in limited numbers in the U.S. and the same goes for the rest of Fisker’s range.
This may not always be the case, however, as Fisker is keen to expand sales into Europe. Speaking with Automotive News Europe, Fisker technology chief Alan Niedzwiecki explained that officials are currently searching for a suitable dealer network across Europe and that sales could start as early as next year. Fisker already has several ties with some of Europe’s biggest companies. The Fisker Latigo and Tramonto for example are based on BMW’s 6-series and the Mercedes SL, respectively, and Germany’s Asola is the supplier of solar panels for the new Karma.
Fisker hopes to build up to 15,000 units of its new Karma in the short term and is eventually planning to build up to 100,000 units annually. According to Niedzwiecki, 50% of sales are likely to be in Europe with the key market being Germany. The Karma is expected to cost upwards of $80,000 but if it proves successful Fisker eventually hopes to launch a new model costing around the $40,000 mark. In fact, Niedzwiecki claims there are currently three new models in the works. It seems Fisker Coachbuild is one company we’ll be writing about a great deal more in the future.
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