Hot! Jaguar: What's Next?

[KiwiRob]

Indeed, it appears that VAG is committing to REEV technology with M-B at least insinuating the same. I imagine that BMW is very seriously considering a return (following the original i3 and to a certain extent i8) to REEV tech as well. Range and packaging propostions are arguably compelling.

For which markets? As I posted above for Europe and China the charging infrastructure makes having an REEV pointless.

 

[Design FIRST]

For which markets? As I posted above for Europe and China the charging infrastructure makes having an REEV pointless.

I support this argument in certain isolated cases. Scandanavia including Denmark, large portions of China and in Euro member states such as the Netherlands and increasingly Germany and Austria. But lacking infrastructures and a resistence to transition, very often politically/ideologically motivated, make REEVs very far from "pointless" elsewhere. Personally, I perceive REEVs as being an essential element of "bridge technology".

 

[Swissbob]

For which markets? As I posted above for Europe and China the charging infrastructure makes having an REEV pointless.

I disagree.
The Charger are very often unreliable.

Here in Switzerland you can drive a BEV because you can mostly charge at home.(the distances are short enough)

On long travels ( 800km and more) I rather fill the tank in 5min, than charging 2 times for at least 40min in total If the charger works.( As I said I stranded at night a couple of times, since then I am back zu Fossil burning cars).

 

[KiwiRob]

I disagree.
The Charger are very often unreliable.

Here in Switzerland you can drive a BEV because you can mostly charge at home.(the distances are short enough)

On long travels ( 800km and more) I rather fill the tank in 5min, than charging 2 times for at least 40min in total If the charger works.( As I said I stranded at night a couple of times, since then I am back zu Fossil burning cars).

I've owned an EV since 2022, in those 3 years I've only come across one failed charger, it was an Ionity site which was offline, the sparky was on site working to get it back up, in the same location there was a Tesla station and an Eon station, both were working. On longer trips we time charging with rest stops and lunch, IMO it doesn't take much more time if you plan properly than driving the same route in an ICE vehicle.

 

[Design FIRST]

Like it or not...this design looks to be on a mission to make a massive statement:

 

[Merc1]

Pure throwback proportions. I predict a stunner, if not a commercial success.

M

 

[tristatez28lt1]

Pure throwback proportions. I predict a stunner, if not a commercial success.

M

Although it looks interesting, I smell Celestiq 2.0

 

[manuelf]

I do appreciate, that it looks "different" and maybe also impressive and commanding. On the other hand it looks so heavy and chunky. Even more than a Bentley Continental GT! Nothing for me. Please add some lightness to this design.

 

[Merc1]

Although it looks interesting, I smell Celestiq 2.0

I seriously doubt Jaguar will make a hearse like Cadillac did. Hopefully that is just camo and not the actual shape of the rear.

M

 

[Design FIRST]

Jaguar has a history of excessively cladding their pre-production prototypes. Save the basic proportions of the vehicle, much else could possibly be vastly different than what is currently being predicted.

 

[SKY]

Like it or not...this design looks to be on a mission to make a massive statement:

My gut feeling is more that this is going to be a massive failure...

 

[Swissbob]

My gut feeling is more that this is going to be a massive failure...

Let’s talk about numbers, less than 1000/year worldwide is my expectation.

 

[Design FIRST]

Let’s talk about numbers, less than 1000/year worldwide is my expectation.

I suspect that Jaguar's primary focus will be to eventually take aim at Bentley Flying Spur clientele. Surely a difficult task at hand. Not knowing for sure, I would take a guess that total Flying Spur sales globally last year were somewhere in the vicinity of some 3000 +/- a few hundred units. Maybe someone on these forums know for sure. And coming round abouts 2028, an all new successor featuring Batur design cues along with a far higher degree of electrification could really be the major fly in Jaguar's chardonnay. Not to mention the upcoming M-B W224 (both fully electric as well as hybrid).

But hey...the Jag's proportions never fail to fascinate me.

 

[tristatez28lt1]

The UK car industry has been dead for decades (would be dead without external money), this won't change that trajectory.

 

[Design FIRST]

This photo image clearly suggests a slightly notched fastback silhouette rather than that of a "hearse like Celestiqesue" vehicle:

And perhaps a rear window after all ? Hope so.

 

[klier]

Bonnet looks looooooong. May it give the RR spectre a challenge.

Yeah but with this being an EV, the proportions are a caricature with no substance. But I think the basic proportions still are pretty great nonetheless.

And a Spectre, while an EV, is still based on the RR bespoke Aluminium Space Frame that underpins all the other V12 models too.

 

[Jonathan19]

Come on, Jaguar, just ditch it! Adapt your V8 (or even V6) with this electric tech to create a beautiful hybrid sedan that truly sings! A Jaguar, you know!

 

[Merc1]

I wouldn't doubt that they're re-evaluating the decision to go all electric. That car looks like it could easily hold a V8 or V12 under that long hood. It's gonna be a hell of a re-engineering project tho.

M

 

[Jonathan19]

I wouldn't doubt that they're re-evaluating the decision to go all electric. That car looks like it could easily hold a V8 or V12 under that long hood. It's gonna be a hell of a re-engineering project tho.

M

Yes, but if they keep this "All EV wierd looking" thing they will die.

 

[Design FIRST]

I wouldn't doubt that they're re-evaluating the decision to go all electric. That car looks like it could easily hold a V8 or V12 under that long hood. It's gonna be a hell of a re-engineering project tho.

M

...or a PHEV Hybrid inline 6. The innovations of modularity that provide compact exterior dimensions for modern inline 6 engines could present some interesting packaging opportunities that could accomodate equally compact e-motor and battery tech. And inline sixes have on impressive history at Jaguar. Especially the 2.8L and 4.2L versions.