Is Samsung the new Apple?

[deity]

Anything above 300 is useless, and is just going to be a drain on battery.

 

[K-A]

All I'm going to say is that The Galaxy S4 won't innovate with it's 4.99 inch 440 PPI Super AMOLED screen. You know, because Apple is the only innovator, it seems.

Who said that?!

I said Samsung hasn't innovated much of anything in the mobile field yet, and Apple has at an unprecedented rate. The iPhone 5 is more innovative than the GS3. Also, a big screen isn't exactly an "innovation", a 440 DPI will be, and I'm already drooling at how good that'd look.

I HAVE a GS3 and can't find anything really "innovative" about it. Swipe to capture and some gimmicky face reader that doesn't work isn't an innovation, neither is a old-tech RGB display with a 306 DPI and muted brightness capabilities. Neither is a poor fit and finish and cheap material selection.

iPhone 5 is a physical innovation and was the best spec Smartphone when it came out. People expect Apple to make flying phones, and when they don't, people bash them. Samsung puts some cheesy hand gesture capabilities on their phones and they can fool people into thinking their phone is space-age due to spending insane amounts to market them as such.

EDIT: Deity, I'm curious to know why anything over 300 is useless? Never looked into that. I do know the iPhone 5's display and color accuracy are infinitely better than the GS3's over-washed, over-saturated display, which also shows more pixelation on photo's. Maybe it's due simply to Apple's Retina technology, which is another innovation as they were the first to apply such clarity to a Mobile device.

 

[deity]

Although I'm no expert, I will try my best.

PPI refers to number of pixels there are per inch. The iPhone has around 330 I believe, while the GS3 is a bit lower at 310. However, the two screens are almost indiscernible in terms of clarity. Keep in mind that this doesn't mean they are the same to look at. Saturation, contrast, color reproduction, whites/blacks are all other factors to a display. Basically, the human eye is only able to differentiate between pixels to a certain degree. This means, on a 4-5" screen, it would make no tangible difference for the display to have 1000ppi vs a solid 330 ppi.

The ppi difference is now being marketed as (320ppi) 720p vs 1080p (440ppi). When Steve Jobs was still alive, he does respond to this claim, and says that ~320 is essentially the limit of pixels being actually 'useful'. I don't know how accurate what he said was, but I've looked at devices ranging from 300-350 ppi and they're REALLY close. What makes a greater difference, like you have been noticing, is how the screen/saturation etc deals with the picture.

K-A, if you really want an example of this, you could try to simulate it a bit with Youtube. Find any video which supports both 1080p and 720p. Then, as accurately as you can , try to zoom out of the screen so that the YouTube player becomes roughly the size of a 4-5 inch display. Then you can toggle between 720p and 1080 and see if there's a difference between the two. For me, there is no difference, but I suppose the Marketing people will find a way. It matters more when you enlarge it, and when you put it on a TV, but on such a small device, there's little to no difference.

 

[K-A]

Although I'm no expert, I will try my best.

PPI refers to number of pixels there are per inch. The iPhone has around 330 I believe, while the GS3 is a bit lower at 310. However, the two screens are almost indiscernible in terms of clarity. Keep in mind that this doesn't mean they are the same to look at. Saturation, contrast, color reproduction, whites/blacks are all other factors to a display. Basically, the human eye is only able to differentiate between pixels to a certain degree. This means, on a 4-5" screen, it would make no tangible difference for the display to have 1000ppi vs a solid 330 ppi.

The ppi difference is now being marketed as (320ppi) 720p vs 1080p (440ppi). When Steve Jobs was still alive, he does respond to this claim, and says that ~320 is essentially the limit of pixels being actually 'useful'. I don't know how accurate what he said was, but I've looked at devices ranging from 300-350 ppi and they're REALLY close. What makes a greater difference, like you have been noticing, is how the screen/saturation etc deals with the picture.

K-A, if you really want an example of this, you could try to simulate it a bit with Youtube. Find any video which supports both 1080p and 720p. Then, as accurately as you can , try to zoom out of the screen so that the YouTube player becomes roughly the size of a 4-5 inch display. Then you can toggle between 720p and 1080 and see if there's a difference between the two. For me, there is no difference, but I suppose the Marketing people will find a way. It matters more when you enlarge it, and when you put it on a TV, but on such a small device, there's little to no difference.

Interesting stuff, thanks. Didn't know that. Yeah, I think therefore what's really paramount is color reproduction and all that. People don't give iPhone 5 enough credit in how incredibly accurate that screen is. Any tests between the two phones shows the GS3's color reproduction is very inaccurate, very oversatured, my skin tone isn't even right in my pictures. The IP5's color reproduction is as spot on as a phone has gotten. If you look at the same pic on both phones you can really see what I'm talking about very clearly.

 

[K-A]

Good to see American's will still support a rare moment in time when an American company is considered a leader.

http://techcrunch.com/2013/02/01/apple-top-us-mobile-maker-q4-2012/

Apple Ousts Samsung As No.1 Mobile Maker In U.S. In Q4 2012 — Taking Record 34% Marketshare, Says Strategy Analytics

Apple took the title of largest mobile maker by volume in the U.S. in Q4 2012, according to Strategy Analytics, which said Cupertino rose to the top of the U.S. phone maker charts for the first time ever — taking a record 34 per cent marketshare, and shipping an estimated 17.7 million units in the quarter. Samsung came second, with a 32.3 per cent share, shipping 16.8 million smartphones. Third place went to LG — but the company was far behind Apple and Samsung, with only a nine per cent share, and shipments of 4.7 million units.

 

[NarutoRamen]

The ppi difference is now being marketed as (320ppi) 720p vs 1080p (440ppi). When Steve Jobs was still alive, he does respond to this claim, and says that ~320 is essentially the limit of pixels being actually 'useful'. I don't know how accurate what he said was, but I've looked at devices ranging from 300-350 ppi and they're REALLY close. What makes a greater difference, like you have been noticing, is how the screen/saturation etc deals with the picture.

Jobs had a habit of making claims that are stupid as hell. It's always when his company does something then "this is the best it's going to be." He also said something along the lines of "3.7 inch screen is all you need, 4inch or above is useless" yada, yada, yada. Oh no, but wait! What has the new iPhone got? Oh that's right, a 4 inch screen. Jobs was good at managing and running a company, he wasn't a visionary. Those were the people who worked for him and actually designed/made the products. It's not like Jobs was sitting at the design table doing stuff.

 

[K-A]

It goes two ways. Jobs was the one who put it all together, and part of his genius was knowing how to delegate responsibility, another part of it was teaching people about what they want, rather than them teaching him what they want. People who think that without him, "Apple is doomed", just don't understand how talented and visionary a *TEAM* Apple has within them. One being Jony Ive, who's responsible for a lot of the creations that Steve gets credit for.

The iPhone 5 DOES have a *taller* screen, but Apple has been.... almost too adamantly so, reminding people that they have not lost track of their "we have the perfect screen size" approach. They kept the width the same, and enlarged the height, to where they can still remind people via marketing and such, that "we haven't gave up our strong stand that we have a perfect form factor.... we just gave you an extra half inch up top which as you can see doesn't diminish the one-handed ease of the product". Also, by making it thinner, they could market it as "bigger, yet still smaller".

Me, personally, I think the form factor is great, but I like larger screens, it's at this point the only reason (along with it being so cheap that I literally got paid to keep it) I kept my GS3. Apple NEEDS to give a larger iPhone screen option. I truly believe even a similar-spec iPhone 5 with simply a 4.5+" screen WITH width to match would be an insane sales boost to iPhone on that alone.

 

[SirLance99]

Good to see American's will still support a rare moment in time when an American company is considered a leader.

http://techcrunch.com/2013/02/01/apple-top-us-mobile-maker-q4-2012/

Apple Ousts Samsung As No.1 Mobile Maker In U.S. In Q4 2012 — Taking Record 34% Marketshare, Says Strategy Analytics


Apple took the title of largest mobile maker by volume in the U.S. in Q4 2012, according to Strategy Analytics, which said Cupertino rose to the top of the U.S. phone maker charts for the first time ever — taking a record 34 per cent marketshare, and shipping an estimated 17.7 million units in the quarter. Samsung came second, with a 32.3 per cent share, shipping 16.8 million smartphones. Third place went to LG — but the company was far behind Apple and Samsung, with only a nine per cent share, and shipments of 4.7 million units.

Don't worry, Samsung is still the TOP US Phone Vendor

I hate link bait. Samsung is still the top US phone vendor and has been since 2008. Did Apple sell more phones than Samsung did in Q4 2012 as the title suggests? Yes. By a measly 0.09%. Throughout 2012 though, Sammy reigned king with 53% market share. Apple came in second place with 43.7%.

 

[K-A]

Don't worry, Samsung is still the TOP US Phone Vendor

I hate link bait. Samsung is still the top US phone vendor and has been since 2008. Did Apple sell more phones than Samsung did in Q4 2012 as the title suggests? Yes. By a measly 0.09%. Throughout 2012 though, Sammy reigned king with 53% market share. Apple came in second place with 43.7%.

You're talking about ALL phones? Because yes, Sammy has a ton of cheap Dumbphones they flood into the market to give them a total share of Mobile Phones.

This figure is about Smartphones. Where ONE iPhone line for the first time ever, outsold Sammy's entire diluted lineup of Smartphones, in the U.S. That's what the article is pointing out. Not to mention, iPhone still holds 75% of the segments profits, showing that it focuses solely in the high end spectrum, which makes it extra impressive that in the U.S, it can out-marketshare Samsung's Smartphone lineup.

 

[SirLance99]

You're talking about ALL phones? Because yes, Sammy has a ton of cheap Dumbphones they flood into the market to give them a total share of Mobile Phones.

This figure is about Smartphones. Where ONE iPhone line for the first time ever, outsold Sammy's entire diluted lineup of Smartphones, in the U.S. That's what the article is pointing out. Not to mention, iPhone still holds 75% of the segments profits, showing that it focuses solely in the high end spectrum, which makes it extra impressive that in the U.S, it can out-marketshare Samsung's Smartphone lineup.

This is just one example of what's going on in the rest of the world.

Samsung had the top three selling phones of last month in the UK

The Galaxy SIII remains at the top of the chart for the NINTH consecutive month.

Apple’s 16GB version of the iPhone 5 was the seventh best seller with the equivalent 4S in tenth.​

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http://www.mobilenewscwp.co.uk/2013/02/01/samsung-has-the-top-three-uk-bestsellers-in-january/

 

[Monster]

Do not worry SirLance, the idiot has been banned.