You wouldn't know or you wouldn't ask such a silly question. Honestly, I don't know which is worse, that you're so blatantly ignorant of your own ignorance or that you're so insecure that every time I bring up this subject, you take it personally. Because I wasn't and haven't been addressing you in these posts -- and I have even asked you to ignore my posts as I do the same to yours -- and yet here you are, exposing yourself. I do respect you at some level because despite being a provincial American par excellence (a rather national characteristic which I, as a former Californian, ran away from) you have a certain set aesthetic sensibility, and I can respect consistency in a person even if I don't agree with them. But some of the other characters on this forum, including the two resident fascists, I can neither respect nor ignore. So please don't take my criticisms personally, ok? And please go educate yourself about automotive design, which is an art, science and philosophy in its own right.