Interior design: E Class / 5 Series / A6
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5er interior for me please...
This is, of course, one of those discussions that is fraught with emotional subjectivity and personal preference as Enilab had pointed out earlier. There is no right or wrong answer, rather, a means by which to describe the emotional appeal from a personal perspective of each one of these interiors.
The E-Class interior presents a more mature image courtesy of styling that it closely shares with the CLS. It's a little too classical, too Baroque for my more modern, minimalistic tastes. It's functional, luxurious and elegant for sure but not all that sporting either, even in AMG fettled guise.
The A6 interior is one that just doesn't appeal to me from a visual stimuli point of view. I'm in the same boat as Enilab when it comes to the opinion that the A6' interior is conservative and even a little, erm (now don't flame me for this), backward looking. The centre console clutter is very typical of mid 90's approach and the visual interplay between the vents and switchgear comes across as haphazard. In my humble opinion of course... I'm not even going to mention the fact that the profile curve that extends from the instrument cluster cowling, past the MMI screen and down the centre console is so reminiscent of 90's Japanese interior styling, see the Nissan Sentra/Sunny and Subaru Legacy as examples. Oops, I guess I did just mention it!
I can see why the BMW interior isn't a favourite. It's not perfect by any stretch of the imagination with certain, highly visible panels not coming across as the nth word in quality. That said, the 5er interior appeals to me as the most solid, cohesive whole. I love the relationship and interplay of the curved lines in this interior, some of them briefly parallel before giving way to other, juxtaposed lines. The horizontally partitioned styling theme is a fresh departure from the centre console centric designs of previous german cars. I also like the way that the top curve running over the I-Drive cowling is mirrored by the bottom curve below the compact disc slots. In my eyes, very creative and engaging. All in all, I feel that the BMW interior represents the most successful integration of form, switchgear, vents, slots and displays of the three competitors presented.
5er interior for me please...
This is, of course, one of those discussions that is fraught with emotional subjectivity and personal preference as Enilab had pointed out earlier. There is no right or wrong answer, rather, a means by which to describe the emotional appeal from a personal perspective of each one of these interiors.
The E-Class interior presents a more mature image courtesy of styling that it closely shares with the CLS. It's a little too classical, too Baroque for my more modern, minimalistic tastes. It's functional, luxurious and elegant for sure but not all that sporting either, even in AMG fettled guise.
The A6 interior is one that just doesn't appeal to me from a visual stimuli point of view. I'm in the same boat as Enilab when it comes to the opinion that the A6' interior is conservative and even a little, erm (now don't flame me for this), backward looking. The centre console clutter is very typical of mid 90's approach and the visual interplay between the vents and switchgear comes across as haphazard. In my humble opinion of course... I'm not even going to mention the fact that the profile curve that extends from the instrument cluster cowling, past the MMI screen and down the centre console is so reminiscent of 90's Japanese interior styling, see the Nissan Sentra/Sunny and Subaru Legacy as examples. Oops, I guess I did just mention it!
I can see why the BMW interior isn't a favourite. It's not perfect by any stretch of the imagination with certain, highly visible panels not coming across as the nth word in quality. That said, the 5er interior appeals to me as the most solid, cohesive whole. I love the relationship and interplay of the curved lines in this interior, some of them briefly parallel before giving way to other, juxtaposed lines. The horizontally partitioned styling theme is a fresh departure from the centre console centric designs of previous german cars. I also like the way that the top curve running over the I-Drive cowling is mirrored by the bottom curve below the compact disc slots. In my eyes, very creative and engaging. All in all, I feel that the BMW interior represents the most successful integration of form, switchgear, vents, slots and displays of the three competitors presented.
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The interior of the A6 was the first of a new era for Audi interior design so it's possible to be too complicated as a design. Nevertheless when you are sitting in the driver's seat you feel like being in a fighter jet and that what really makes me love it so much. On the other hand the interior of the Q7 looks even better.
In my opinion one of the best in the auto industry right now.
The interior of the A6 was the first of a new era for Audi interior design so it's possible to be too complicated as a design. Nevertheless when you are sitting in the driver's seat you feel like being in a fighter jet and that what really makes me love it so much. On the other hand the interior of the Q7 looks even better.
In my opinion one of the best in the auto industry right now.
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i think the e-class has the best interior,the dash on all three cars is so good looking,but e-class is a bit better for me,and i don't like the interior side profiles of the a6 and 5series.
just look at this man
i think the e-class has the best interior,the dash on all three cars is so good looking,but e-class is a bit better for me,and i don't like the interior side profiles of the a6 and 5series.
just look at this man
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Leica M3 35mm-rangefinder camera 1954
Arne Jacobsen teapot from 1967
Chairs designed by Poul Kjaerholm 1957 and 1997
One misconception about this Modern design language is that it is unable to be expressive or interesting - this is simply untrue. Modernism is not over ....it's certainly not dead.
B&O Beosound 3200 from 1990's
Pillbox designed by Designit for Stelton 2006
Fortebraccio light designed by Alberto Meda and Paolo Rizzatto 1998
Larus chaise-longue from Poltrona Frau 2001
Fjord Chair designed by Patricia Urquiola in 2002
Pingo Coffee Flask designed by John Sebastian for Stelton 2005
Porsche also adheres to the Teutonic functionalist approach to design.
This photograph only confirms my opinions. Martinbo, with all due respect, this Audi interior is world's away from cheap Japanese interiors from the 1990's. It is very conservative - but mark my words on this, it will age far better than the other two interiors because it is not preoccupied with being the most spectacular, the loudest, or the most dramatic. Instead Audi still believe that "Less is more".Yannis said:The interior of the A6 was the first of a new era for Audi interior design so it's possible to be too complicated as a design. Nevertheless when you are sitting in the driver's seat you feel like being in a fighter jet and that what really makes me love it so much. On the other hand the interior of the Q7 looks even better.
In my opinion one of the best in the auto industry right now.
Leica M3 35mm-rangefinder camera 1954
Arne Jacobsen teapot from 1967
Chairs designed by Poul Kjaerholm 1957 and 1997
One misconception about this Modern design language is that it is unable to be expressive or interesting - this is simply untrue. Modernism is not over ....it's certainly not dead.
B&O Beosound 3200 from 1990's
Pillbox designed by Designit for Stelton 2006
Fortebraccio light designed by Alberto Meda and Paolo Rizzatto 1998
Larus chaise-longue from Poltrona Frau 2001
Fjord Chair designed by Patricia Urquiola in 2002
Pingo Coffee Flask designed by John Sebastian for Stelton 2005
Porsche also adheres to the Teutonic functionalist approach to design.
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Super post Roberto... you make it quite clear that you've an exceptional eye for the aesthetic. You draw some very valid visual parallels and I consider myself privileged to learn from your insight.
Essentially, at 34, I'm probably stuck with preconceived notions and a visual paradigm of what modern interiors ought to look like, though this doesn't change the fact that I still have a frame of reference built up over the years of emotional preference and subjectivity.
Without question, as you so aptly pointed out, the A6/Q7 interior is a far cry in terms of tactile and visual quality from the aforementioned Japanese models I'd posted about previously. That doesn't change the fact that I just don't identify with the shape of the dashboard in the Audi. It simply doesn't engage me in the same way that the BMW interior does.
It is fitting however, for me to point out that I'm not presenting my opinion in an anywhere near as articulated and well-founded fashion as you have done.
Super post Roberto... you make it quite clear that you've an exceptional eye for the aesthetic. You draw some very valid visual parallels and I consider myself privileged to learn from your insight.
Essentially, at 34, I'm probably stuck with preconceived notions and a visual paradigm of what modern interiors ought to look like, though this doesn't change the fact that I still have a frame of reference built up over the years of emotional preference and subjectivity.
Without question, as you so aptly pointed out, the A6/Q7 interior is a far cry in terms of tactile and visual quality from the aforementioned Japanese models I'd posted about previously. That doesn't change the fact that I just don't identify with the shape of the dashboard in the Audi. It simply doesn't engage me in the same way that the BMW interior does.
It is fitting however, for me to point out that I'm not presenting my opinion in an anywhere near as articulated and well-founded fashion as you have done.
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Thank you very much Martinbo, those are very kind comments.
I might have been a little obsessive in my posts in this thread - but I really wanted to make my opinions as clear as possible.
I should make it perfectly clear that I am not an Audi fanboy - my appreciation for the Audi marque is relatively recent, but I really do admire the quality of their recent work.
Ultimately, as several people have very rightly pointed out, it all comes down to personal preferences in the end
Thank you very much Martinbo, those are very kind comments.
I might have been a little obsessive in my posts in this thread - but I really wanted to make my opinions as clear as possible.
I should make it perfectly clear that I am not an Audi fanboy - my appreciation for the Audi marque is relatively recent, but I really do admire the quality of their recent work.
Ultimately, as several people have very rightly pointed out, it all comes down to personal preferences in the end
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yes suh....i dont understand all the audi hype...i think theri interiorsnare really bad...i don't like the surfaces or hard plastics eitherklier said:
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Lol, Rob, why get upset? And what conspiracy? I have nothing aginst you or your pic choice, i just pointed out it's one of the the worst pics and many will comment the pics you posted and taking them for comparisons in this thread and that pic, my friend, doesn't do any good to 5er's interior.
Still, you could have chosen even worse looking one, i still choose MY interior in this thread.
Case closed.
Roberto said:HA, give me a break - it was not my intention to make any of the interiors look better or worse - Tycoon, if you can post a better picture of the BMW's interior, then I will gladly put it on the first post ......it was not a conspiracy against BMW.
Lol, Rob, why get upset? And what conspiracy? I have nothing aginst you or your pic choice, i just pointed out it's one of the the worst pics and many will comment the pics you posted and taking them for comparisons in this thread and that pic, my friend, doesn't do any good to 5er's interior.
Still, you could have chosen even worse looking one, i still choose MY interior in this thread.
Case closed. 
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....I have to ask you, what is so vomit-inducing about this interior, sure, unlike the 5er, it's not like Disneyland in there but it's still very attractive - and oddly enough, not unlike some of the older BMW interiors ....but I guess you don't have a problem with them.
klier said:
Hmmm, some of you Beemer boys sure get ill easily - you sure must use up a lot of sick-bags when you see an X3.sunnyman12 said:
....I have to ask you, what is so vomit-inducing about this interior, sure, unlike the 5er, it's not like Disneyland in there but it's still very attractive - and oddly enough, not unlike some of the older BMW interiors ....but I guess you don't have a problem with them.
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roberto, thank you for all those insightful comments, the truth is, some ppl are just biased, if u put a different badge on that audi steering wheel, they will praise it up to high heaven, and if u put, say the audi four rings, on the 5er steering wheel, then they would say that interior makes them want to puke. the vomit inducing factor is the badge, some ppl just cant see pass it.
as for me, even tho im an audi fan, i still think e-class has the most pleasanton design of the three, tho may not be the most ergonamic one. audi, on the other hand has a very purpose oriented design fitted with high quality material, and im not judging from the pix, i've seen all three of them in real life (of course not the facelift e-class, they might have improved the quality).
i also have to admit, 5er interior is a lot better looking in real life than in any picture. it is very exciting in real life, a lot of new ideas and stuff.... argh im tired now, so that's it for now......peace.
roberto, thank you for all those insightful comments, the truth is, some ppl are just biased, if u put a different badge on that audi steering wheel, they will praise it up to high heaven, and if u put, say the audi four rings, on the 5er steering wheel, then they would say that interior makes them want to puke. the vomit inducing factor is the badge, some ppl just cant see pass it.
as for me, even tho im an audi fan, i still think e-class has the most pleasanton design of the three, tho may not be the most ergonamic one. audi, on the other hand has a very purpose oriented design fitted with high quality material, and im not judging from the pix, i've seen all three of them in real life (of course not the facelift e-class, they might have improved the quality).
i also have to admit, 5er interior is a lot better looking in real life than in any picture. it is very exciting in real life, a lot of new ideas and stuff.... argh im tired now, so that's it for now......peace.
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Aside from aesthetics I think we might be pushing the quality issue a little far with the Audi A6.
Aside from aesthetics I think we might be pushing the quality issue a little far with the Audi A6.
GTA7.5 said:According to JDPower the owners rate the E-Class and 5er better than the A6 in body and interior quality!!
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y70/carltonslr/JDPower30.jpg
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Well, I personally have not talked about build quality, the pre-FL E-class was not so great, but I think Mercedes have tried to fix things. In the photos, the FL interior looks relatively well made to me - it's just that it has all the charm and style of a suite at a mid-range hotel chain - in other words, it's totally banal....but to be fair, I could say all three cars are not really spectacular.GTA7.5 said:
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