It went off the scale.
i8 i8 or proper BMW supercar?
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The BMW i8 is a plug-in hybrid sports car developed by BMW. The i8 was part of BMW's electrified fleet and was marketed under the BMW i sub-brand. The production version of the BMW i8 was unveiled at the 2013 Frankfurt Motor Show and was released in Germany in June 2014. Deliveries to retail customers in the U.S. began in August 2014. A roadster variant was launched in May 2018. Production ended in June 2020.
It went off the scale.
I think if you remember our many PMs in the past I stated I wanted BMW to build a hybrid supercar with the emphasis on the word supercar, something to compete with the rest but offer other worldly economy, a REAL statement which said "look what we can do" but what we've got isn't quite that which is why I personally am disappointed. The reason I started this thread was because of Klier, he felt I wasn't right in thinking this car wasn't what the majority wanted so the poll gives everyone the vote to chose either way and vocal their opinion too.
BMW are one of the great engineering companies there is but in my opinion either funding or internal politics has stopped them from completing in the big league where I believe they will do extremely well indeed. The i8 could have been that very car but another missed opportunity has slipped by.
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I said that you don't know what I think. Nothing more and nothing less.
This thread is a flame bait, and you're acting all innocent again.
south
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I doubt you know better than BMW what works for them and what doesn't. But hey, if it makes you happy to drop some terms like "lack of funding" or "not in the big league" so be it.
Best regards,
south
This is what I said, " As a showcase of their talents then it definitely ticks all boxes but it's not what everyone wants............ not even close to that dream." Which you replied, "Good to see you know 'what everybody wants'"
You sowed the seeds for this thread to see if everybody did indeed want the i8 or not and so far it's meeting what I expected.
You are quite right I don't know which is why I'm asking the question instead of sitting dumb and accepting everything.
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So when when is it about BMW, nobody can give their opinion or share their thoughts, because what BMW does is always right, BMW knows everything better. How is it when it comes to Audi, everybody says Audi is making a huge mistake by copy-pasting design and that customers will get bored? They all know everything better than Audi?
I guess Klier knows better than BMW M, which engine is best for the M3.
Guys, this is GCF, not Youtube, so please discuss, don't just write "X rules". And why always say "who cares, most can't afford this"? In this case maybe then stop posting on Lamborghini and Ferrari forum, because anyway most can't afford those cars?
I guess Klier knows better than BMW M, which engine is best for the M3.
Guys, this is GCF, not Youtube, so please discuss, don't just write "X rules". And why always say "who cares, most can't afford this"? In this case maybe then stop posting on Lamborghini and Ferrari forum, because anyway most can't afford those cars?
south
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South, you have a member here who has openly thrown verbal abuse at me continuously without a single thing happening to him and when I don't accept what a manufacturer says as gospel and the right way to go you are telling me my days are numbered. Where is the fair play there then?
I ask questions, I have opinion just like everyone else here, this doesnt mean I'm always right or always wrong anymore than the next person. If you believe the i8 was the right decision then that's your right to have that opinion but don't demand everyone else to follow.
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What did BMW claim is gospel? They felt there is a niche market for a hybrid sports car and they build one with their time and money. No where did they claim that is "what everyone wants" like you say. Are you seriously claiming you are really so dumb that need a poll to tell you if a forum full of car enthusiasts prefer a super car or a hybrid for e-jerking?
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Sunny, when you're 14 years old e jerking is all you do as a man.....you can hardly blame Footie now can you?
LOL, pathetic. Is that all you can give me?
LOL, pathetic. Is that all you can give me?
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Someone's missing very important components in BMW's strategy for the i8:
a) the future demands efficiency; not just TwinPower turbo V8 token efficiency - real efficiency: less fuel, less weight, low low emissions, less noise pollution and so on.
b) the supercar is socially reproachable; not for all (internet forum junkies will always want a "real" supercar) but for most the supercar sends out all the wrong signals. Not everyone appreciates the hedonism afforded by the supercar experience; instead owners are viewed as being show-offs, socially & environmentally irresponsible, self-centred, wasteful and antisocial. The supercar as it stands in its current form is not a symbol of sustainability and responsibility - it communicates an altogether different message. In fact, it's actually contradictory, as those leading members of society with the wherewithal to afford such machinery occupy the upper echelon of business and are responsible for driving cleaner, greener corporate policy. There are many wealthy people out there who, in spite of having earned the right to a hedonistic motoring experience, choose not to because of the negative connotations. These captains of industry are the very advocacy of doing more with less. The BMW i8 is thus the car for them.
c) most supercar owners never drive their supercars like they ought to be driven; Porsche will, in many countries, invalidate your warranty if you take your 911 GT3 RS on a circuit. There and then - even if you cause no mechanical harm whatsoever. Most people pootle about in their supercars relative to the true performance potential. The majority of these people could care less about ultimate acceleration numbers or how quickly your car gets you to 300 km/h. That's not a measure of acceleration (how quickly you can get to 300km/h); it's a measure of how quickly you can land up in jail.
So, people can create threads under the auspices of supposed "natural curiosity" but in this instance the lack of maturity and insight leads one to once again question the true motive behind raising this topic.
a) the future demands efficiency; not just TwinPower turbo V8 token efficiency - real efficiency: less fuel, less weight, low low emissions, less noise pollution and so on.
b) the supercar is socially reproachable; not for all (internet forum junkies will always want a "real" supercar) but for most the supercar sends out all the wrong signals. Not everyone appreciates the hedonism afforded by the supercar experience; instead owners are viewed as being show-offs, socially & environmentally irresponsible, self-centred, wasteful and antisocial. The supercar as it stands in its current form is not a symbol of sustainability and responsibility - it communicates an altogether different message. In fact, it's actually contradictory, as those leading members of society with the wherewithal to afford such machinery occupy the upper echelon of business and are responsible for driving cleaner, greener corporate policy. There are many wealthy people out there who, in spite of having earned the right to a hedonistic motoring experience, choose not to because of the negative connotations. These captains of industry are the very advocacy of doing more with less. The BMW i8 is thus the car for them.
c) most supercar owners never drive their supercars like they ought to be driven; Porsche will, in many countries, invalidate your warranty if you take your 911 GT3 RS on a circuit. There and then - even if you cause no mechanical harm whatsoever. Most people pootle about in their supercars relative to the true performance potential. The majority of these people could care less about ultimate acceleration numbers or how quickly your car gets you to 300 km/h. That's not a measure of acceleration (how quickly you can get to 300km/h); it's a measure of how quickly you can land up in jail.
So, people can create threads under the auspices of supposed "natural curiosity" but in this instance the lack of maturity and insight leads one to once again question the true motive behind raising this topic.
Where's the lack of maturity, did I bad mouth anyone which is a perfect sign of immaturity......NO, did I give an irrational opinion on the i8 that suggests it's somehow a piece of shit...... absolutely NOT.
Re-read what I wrote in my second post,
I am simply saying that in my opinion this car misses out what could have been extra-ordinary by sacrificing a bit of economy and emissions to gain the performance needed to lift it to the next level or disregard the whole sportscar route altogether and went with a performance saloon with all it's practicality and added REAL economy and emissions into the mix then in my opinion this would have been a statement of BMW engineering excellence of the highest order.
P.S.
Your list of a,b,c of supercars reads like in your opinion they are a total waste of time and money because they can't be used and yet some manufacturers make a living out of solely producing these cars whilst others use them as halo cars to lift the brand image as a whole.
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What is a supercar? Is the Cayman a supercar?
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