Solus GT [Hot!] McLaren Solus GT


The McLaren Solus GT is a limited-production track-only mid-engined sports car manufactured by McLaren Automotive. The car is the sixth addition in the McLaren Ultimate Series, joining the McLaren F1, McLaren P1, McLaren Senna, McLaren Speedtail, and McLaren Elva. It is based on the 2017 Super Vision Gran Turismo concept that appeared in the Sony Interactive Entertainment game Gran Turismo Sport. The car is designed to be an "extreme expression of track driving engagement", and will be limited to 25 units, all of which come with a custom moulded seat, FIA-homologated race suit, helmet, and a bespoke HANS (head and neck support device).

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Track-only, single seater McLaren built in 25 units (apparently already sold).
Main specifications:

- Sub 1000 kg dry weight (apparently, it is 915 kg dry)
- Race-derived NA V10, 5.2 L, Judd-based engine revving up to 10'500 rpm
- Peak power of 840 PS at 10'000 rpm
- 7-speed race gearbox
- LMP-spec slick tyres
- Carbon brakes
- More than 1200 kg of downforce at 240 km/h (apparently, in McLaren they quoted 1400 kg of downforce at 240 km/h to some customers)

The car will come in 2023 and the prototype is currently facing on track development.

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Can I have my doubts that the engine is bespoke? Judd never made a race engine that was 5.2l. Doing r&d for a brand new engine that will be used in 25 cars doesn't make financial sense. Either McLaren will use it in other future cars or... my tinfoil hat on, it is actually supplied by VW Group & Lamborghini off the GT3 Huracan.

Insane track-toy regardless.
 
Just to give some context to this car: if the downforce value is going to be confirmed, that figure is practically almost identical to the downforce level developed by the road legal Valkyrie in race mode (officially quoted at +1400 kg at 240 km/h).
However, the Valkyrie is heavier, of course runs on road legal tyres and albeit its brakes are almighty powerful they can't clearly provide the stopping power granted by a LMP-grade slicks + carbon brakes combo.
So:

Solus GT vs Valkyrie (road legal version)
- Downforce: 1400 kg at 240 km/h vs +1400 kg at 240 km/h
- Weight: 915 kg dry (so, I guess 1100 kg kerb + driver) vs 1300-1400 kg kerb (without driver)
- Power: 840 PS vs 1100+ PS

The Solus GT has less power but is lighter, has basically the same level of downforce + LMP-grade slick tyres and carbon brakes.
Considering the performance that the Valkyrie should be able to provide in race mode, there's a high chance for the Solus GT to fall in the LMP1-LMP2 range in terms of lap times (probably faster than LMP2 machines, maybe not that far from non-hybrid LMP1s, for sure slower than latest hybrid LMP1 monsters).
Still, it effectively is the fastest car ever produced by McLaren outside of their F1 machines (as McLaren themselves officially stated in their press release).

Personally, I have to say that the specs of the Solus GT actually have the effect to make the Valkyrie datasheet even more impressive (especially the downforce of course..), considering how the Valkyrie has to face road legal homologation.

In the end, in terms of lap times the Solus GT should be expected to be faster on track than the 'standard' Valkyrie (but slower than the Valkyrie AMR Pro...).

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Just to give some context to this car: if the downforce value is going to be confirmed, that figure is practically almost identical to the downforce level developed by the road legal Valkyrie in race mode (officially quoted at +1400 kg at 240 km/h).
However, the Valkyrie is heavier, of course runs on road legal tyres and albeit its brakes are almighty powerful they can't clearly provide the stopping power granted by a LMP-grade slicks + carbon brakes combo.
So:

Solus GT vs Valkyrie (road legal version)
- Downforce: 1400 kg at 240 km/h vs +1400 kg at 240 km/h
- Weight: 915 kg dry (so, I guess 1100 kg kerb + driver) vs 1300-1400 kg kerb (without driver)
- Power: 840 PS vs 1100+ PS

The Solus GT has less power but is lighter, has basically the same level of downforce + LMP-grade slick tyres and carbon brakes.
Considering the performance that the Valkyrie should be able to provide in race mode, there's a high chance for the Solus GT to fall in the LMP1-LMP2 range in terms of lap times (probably faster than LMP2 machines, maybe not that far from non-hybrid LMP1s, for sure slower than latest hybrid LMP1 monsters).
Still, it effectively is the fastest car ever produced by McLaren outside of their F1 machines (as McLaren themselves officially stated in their press release).

Personally, I have to say that the specs of the Solus GT actually have the effect to make the Valkyrie datasheet even more impressive (especially the downforce of course..), considering how the Valkyrie has to face road legal homologation.

In the end, in terms of lap times the Solus GT should be expected to be faster on track than the 'standard' Valkyrie (but slower than the Valkyrie AMR Pro...).

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Thanks. I would add that the Valkyrie is sleek and a visual work of art. The Mclaren isn't pretty but if it offers near F1 levels of performance then I am alright with that.
 
Can I have my doubts that the engine is bespoke? Judd never made a race engine that was 5.2l. Doing r&d for a brand new engine that will be used in 25 cars doesn't make financial sense. Either McLaren will use it in other future cars or... my tinfoil hat on, it is actually supplied by VW Group & Lamborghini off the GT3 Huracan.
yep. Nice Audi.
 
Thanks. I would add that the Valkyrie is sleek and a visual work of art. The Mclaren isn't pretty but if it offers near F1 levels of performance then I am alright with that.
I think that the "F1 level of performance" quote is really abused these days.
At a quick glance (a true analysis shall be much more complex than this, obviously, but we lack more data), the Solus GT has the specs to compete with a 2020 DPi prototype in terms of performance, in fact let's compare it to the 2020 Acura DPi race car:

- Downforce: 1400 kg at 240 km/h for the Solus, 1360 kg at 240 km/h for the DPi race car
- Weight: claimed 915 kg dry for the Solus, 930 kg (probably with driver) for the DPi
- Power: 840 PS for the Solus, 600 PS for the DPi prototype

Both cars run LMP-grade slick tyres and are fitted with carbon brakes.

Now, let's take the COTA circuit as a reference for our comparison.
In 2020, the IMSA qualifying session was topped by Rick Taylor on the Acura DPi with a time of 1:48.915.
Now, the gentleman drivers who are going to buy the Solus GT are, on average, lucky to have 1/15 of the skillset of a DPi pro-driver. Still, we can imagine that a pro like Taylor, on a Solus GT at COTA, could probably lay down lap times in the high 1:40 range, probably even slightly faster than the (regulated) DPi considering the relevant advantage in power that the McLaren has.

These for sure are fast lap times and there is no doubt that the Solus GT can be as fast as a sport-prototype race car.
Just to give some context, at COTA GT3 race cars run on average around 2:05 in terms of lap times, while a road legal Porsche GT3 RS is around the 2:20 mark.

Well, now let's go back to our "F1 fast" claim.
F1 speed (in terms of lap times) changed a lot during the years because of the FIA regulations, however we can say that, during the last 15 years, the 2014 F1 cars have been on average the slowest around a track because they are the generation with the lowest levels of downforce and mechanical grip.
If we look at the 2014 F1 COTA qualifying session, the slowest F1 machine was the Lotus, which averaged with Grosjean a lap time of 1:39.679.
So, the slowest F1 machine of the last 10 years at COTA is still almost 10 seconds per lap faster than the fastest 2020 DPi prototype...
Now, if we bring serious F1 cars into the conversation, we can look at the 2019 F1 COTA GP qualifying session, in which Bottas took pole-position on the Mercedes W10 with a lap time of 1:32.029, which is almost 8 seconds per lap faster than the slowest 2014 F1 qualifying time and thus almost 18 seconds per lap faster than the fastest 2020 DPi race car.
And 2020 F1 cars would have been even faster (to this day, in qualifying trim the Mercedes W11 is the fastest F1 car ever, as regulations slowed down the cars in 2021 and even more for the current 2022 season) if they had the chance to run the 2020 COTA F1 GP.

So, the claim for the Solus GT to be on "F1 level of performance" is pure marketing BS not backed up by any technical fact and even the slowest 2014 F1 car would run circles around it on a race track.

The Valkyrie AMR Pro which has double the downforce of the Solus GT, 160 PS more and basically almost the same weight, given its datasheet it should destroy (at least on paper) the Solus GT on a track.
In fact, the downforce of the AMR Pro should actually be on the level of F1 cars and its technical specifications should make it as fast if not faster than top LMP1 machines, still even the AMR Pro can't lay down the lap times of a current F1 car because it weighs something like 350-400 kg more, kerb and with driver on board.
However, I can see the AMR Pro matching (or being quite close to) the lap times of mid-low grid 2014 F1 cars, given that it has more downforce and more power.
 
Apologies, and to McLaren. Not the Audi V10 - their own/Judd's:

'Talking of the engine, it too has LMP links and is as far removed from the company’s regular 4-litre, twin-turbo V8 (or the Artura’s hybrid V6) that you can get. It’s still made in the UK, but not by McLaren’s regular supplier Ricardo, instead Judd took responsibility for building the 5.2-litre V10s for the Solus.'


Impressive. McLaren, like all switched on premium/premium+/uber-premium makers, knows the money, their ability to exist, is in the ultra high end, hence the dizzying amount of product launches for these recently - not just Quail, Pebble Beach etc - , as the general. mass world spins out of control - the 99% worried to death about just surviving, the so-called 1%, actually no more than ~5 million people on the planet, buying multi-million £/$/€ toys, playthings, like the ordinary people used to buy new underwear.
 
In fact, the downforce of the AMR Pro should actually be on the level of F1 cars and its technical specifications should make it as fast if not faster than top LMP1 machines, still even the AMR Pro can't lay down the lap times of a current F1 car because it weighs something like 350-400 kg more, kerb and with driver on board.
And newey is working on a Red Bull branded successor that will likely be superior. Mad!
 
Apologies, and to McLaren. Not the Audi V10 - their own/Judd's:

'Talking of the engine, it too has LMP links and is as far removed from the company’s regular 4-litre, twin-turbo V8 (or the Artura’s hybrid V6) that you can get. It’s still made in the UK, but not by McLaren’s regular supplier Ricardo, instead Judd took responsibility for building the 5.2-litre V10s for the Solus.'
This is interesting and nice to get clarity. But why 5.2l when they had 5.5l and 5.0l engines already made?
How will they profit on the car?

My new theory is that they will put this engine into the P1 successor too.
 
This is interesting and nice to get clarity. But why 5.2l when they had 5.5l and 5.0l engines already made?
How will they profit on the car?
Judd's GV 5.0L and 5.5L V10s are mainly made for endurance racing and only rev to 9000 rpm. The smaller 4.0L and 4.2L variants rev to 11k rpm, but only produce 730 and 775 hp, respectively. McLaren probably wanted a super high-revving engine for the experience, and more power than the smaller engine provided for the performance. Hence, the bespoke 5.2L version of the Judd GV V10 engine.
My new theory is that they will put this engine into the P1 successor too.
Those Judd V10s are pure-bred racing engines. They don't work in a street car on any level. McLaren needed a truly special engine for this ultra-limited car, and having Judd make a custom version of their V10 was a good and relatively cheap way to achieve that.
McLaren Automotive are not in a great situation financially, and this series of 25 already sold-out £3m cars will generate £75m in revenue for them. For comparison, their annual revenue in 2021 was £610.4m.
 
And newey is working on a Red Bull branded successor that will likely be superior. Mad!
Yes, the RB17 is bound to eclipse the AMR Pro in every single metric:

- higher level chassis (LMP-like for the AMR Pro vs a chassis constructed at RBR with the same technology applied to their F1 cars for the RB17)
- more advanced suspensions (the RB17 will have active suspensions, which are actually banned since the early 90s in F1)
- lighter (targeted 900 kg + driver, so I guess 100+ kg lighter than the AMR Pro)
- more powerful (around 200 bhp more)
- more downforce (the RB17 will also feature a blown diffuser and Newey wants it to have more downforce than their F1 car to compensate for its higher weight)

The RB17 will be a monster, that's for sure.
 
And where did this come from? Is it true that from a videogame?
How crazy is that and the V10 is new and exclusive, how do they do it if the big players can't??
The fighter-bomber cockpit opening is magnificent
 
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