Report Frankfurt show will move to Munich

[dalab]

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"Show events may be held in the Olympic Park next to BMW's global headquarters in Munich."
March 03, 2020 12:06 PM UPDATED 57 MINUTES AGO
Frankfurt show will move to Munich

Munich will succeed Frankfurt as the German auto show's host city starting in 2021, the VDA German automakers association said.

Munich convinced the VDA's board that its city center and highly attractive locations close to downtown could be used to host events for the show, VDA President Hildegard Mueller said in a news release on Tuesday.
The IAA will evolve from an automobile platform to a mobility platform, the VDA said. The next show is scheduled to be held in September 2021.

The association said in January that Frankfurt would no longer host the show after almost 70 years as the home of the biannual exhibition of the industry's latest innovations. It said Berlin, Hamburg and Munich had been shortlisted as potential successors.
The Frankfurt show is also known by its German acronym IAA (International Automobile Exhibition). It has been a crucial sales and marketing platform for automakers but last September's event saw a sharp drop in interest as major brands including fan magnet Ferrari decided to skip the show.

It was also targeted by protests from environmental activists. Visitor numbers fell by 30 percent to 560,000.
The VDA's contract with the Frankfurt trade fair company ended last year, allowing the association the chance to change venues.

According to corporate circles, the alleged dislike of Volkswagen CEO Herbert Diess to an IAA in the BMW city of Munich makes no sense.

In the race for the IAA International Motor Show, the signs of a decision for Munich are increasing. From the surroundings of the VW group, it was announced that Munich could also imagine very well as a location in VW. Reports that CEO Herbert Diess does not want to present his cars at the location of the BMW competitor are simply nonsense.

The German Association of the Automotive Industry (VDA) wants to decide on Tuesday where the IAA will take place next year. The motor show in Frankfurt attracted fewer and fewer visitors and exhibitors. With the IAA, VDA wants to make much more public in the future and address future mobility. The three million cities in Berlin, Hamburg and Munich reached the last round of selection. In industrial circles it was said that the self-critical attitude of politicians and the population speaks against Berlin, against Hamburg, the relatively poor international connection of the airport.

 

[J.E]

Volkswagen throwing a temper tantrum as usual... F***ing crybabies.

 

[dalab]

What are the advantages of Munich versus Frankfurt

 

[CrunchSlaughtered]

What are the advantages of Munich versus Frankfurt

1,5 million citizens

 

[Betty Swollocks]

1,5 million citizens

Frankfurt is a smaller city than Munich, but it has a larger population within two hours drive or train away, not to mention has easier connectivity with other large population centres due to its central location.

 

[Matski]

Frankfurt is a smaller city than Munich, but it has a larger population within two hours drive or train away, not to mention has easier connectivity with other large population centres due to its central location.

That's all very well and good, but the key issue here, what are the Beer halls like in Frankfurt?

 

[CrunchSlaughtered]

Frankfurt is a smaller city than Munich, but it has a larger population within two hou...

They made an analysis why and where they had lost 30% of the visitors in 2019 compared to 2017. The IAA was less visited than Genf and it has something to do with the location.

 

[Betty Swollocks]

They made an analysis why and where they had lost 30% of the visitors in 2019 compared to 2017. The IAA was less visited than Genf and it has something to do with the location.

If that's what they conclude, then who am I to argue? But I really don't get their logic. Geneva is a much smaller city than Frankfurt, so clearly the local population isn't that much of an influence in terms of visitor numbers.

Geneva city population 201,741
Frankfurt city population 753,056

Geneva (Grand Geneva) 946,000
Frankfurt metropolitan area 5.6 million

And then when you look at Frankfurt within the context of cities within a day trip distance, you're talking more than ten million more people, such as Cologne, Dusseldorf, and the entire Rhein-Rhur metropolitan region, southern Netherlands, Eastern Belgium, Luxembourg, not to mention Frankfurt is more centrally located within Germany for public transport. Frankfurt also has ten times the accessibility by air than Geneva.

Having been to the big three motor shows every year for the last 15 years, the one that always seems the busiest is Frankfurt, by some margin too.

 

[SCOTT27]

That's all very well and good, but the key issue here, what are the Beer halls like in Frankfur...

If they keep the September date then you are not far off from Oktoberfest.

 

[CrunchSlaughtered]

If that's what they conclude, then who am I to argue? But I really don't get their log...

Last IAA had less than 600 k visitors. 300 k less than 2017. I suppose Munich has proved with other fairs that the visitors to a fair from the local area are a quite significant number, while exactly this type of visitors are declining in Frankfurt. The fact that the Bauma is the biggest fair in the world (with a lot of local visitors)must have played a positive role for choosing Munich over Frankfurt

 

[SCOTT27]

IAA 2019 was so vehemently anti-car that it is no wonder visitor numbers declined greatly.
Between the amount of childless eco-fascists blocking the entrances to the event to the protests and die-ins blocking visitors trapping them in bottlenecks to the actual recourse of deliberately attending the event to damage vehicles on display even if they are Electric.

Electric cars are not favoured by Greens. They hate all cars.
They hate the automobile industry. Let's not overlook that.
No matter what solution at the end of the day if it's a vehicle other than a bicycle they despise it.

Their splinter groups despise cars and look beyond the benefits of Electric cars to the diesel generators that power chargers to the exploitation of child labour by countries that mine lithium to be sold to manufacturers for electric cars.

Extinction Rebellion have taken to publically call car owners "Nazi's" then you wonder why they ask why the public do not show them sympathy, support and agreement but drag them off trains and stages for beat downs?

At IAA many manufactures felt they got no support and local government allowed the fascists to run riot, in which many vehicles were damaged.
By all accounts Geneva was to be invaded on press day in order to humiliate CEOs during live global press conferences and vandalise more cars also as Brussels was earlier.

 

[klier]

Are they expecting Ferrari back in Munich? And the Gretas and green radicals don't mind Munich? It's just so weird.....

Not that I mind, because next to BMW seems perfect for me: Go to IAA, them BMW Welt/Museum where they'll surely have some special IAA exhibition, and then rent an M @ BMW Welt and drive a couple of days through the Alps.

~PERFECT. Let Munich win pls

 

[SCOTT27]

The problem is and remains education.
The industry is being taught as an evil entity that must be destroyed. A symbol of capitalism.
Today professors are being sidelined for facts in place of fiction when it comes to climate change etc.
Is it any wonder when your child is being taught this is the truth. Even though evidence points to an actual event?

 

[klier]

Dinosaurs had f#cking hundreds of millions of years. Humans are around 250 thousand years. Good one.

 

[Giannis]

Com' on people, let's leave politics out of this.

That's all very well and good, but the key issue here, what are the Beer halls like in Frankfur...

Having visited both cities, I dare to say that Frankfurt has some excellent beer institutions. So does Munich, though. Both cities left me quite satisfied, though my first Oktoberfest also left me without memories of the rest of the trip.

 

[klier]

Just a headache

 

[SCOTT27]

Here's what you need to know about Munich vs Berlin for the IAA. Expect childless multiple cat owners. Which is how I address them in Berlin.

Munich wins against Berlin

The announcement of a representative of the auto industry was clear: “We are not the opening act for the Oktoberfest!” unthinkable. At that time, the Association of the Auto Industry (VDA) made a pre-selection from a field of applicants from seven cities: Munich, Hamburg and Berlin were shortlisted for the leading trade fair for the international auto industry.


“Berlin doesn't want the IAA”
Something has happened since then , A few days ago, an industry representative replied to the question of whether Berlin would get the IAA: “Why? Berlin doesn't want them at all. ”This thesis is based on the behavior of Berlin's Senator for Economic Affairs Ramona Pop (Greens) and the Berlin Greens, who don't want a car show. Bavaria is completely different. “Please come to Munich, we want you here”, Economics Minister Hubert Aiwanger (free voters) appealed to the auto industry and waved with a big bill: The Free State provides 15 Million euros are available for the IAA. In Hamburg and Berlin, on the other hand, there is no cent from the state budget. On Tuesday, the VDA board finally voted for Munich.


The association announced that Munich offers the best conditions for “intelligent traffic concepts and innovative networking of modes of transport”. The city administration has been following the development of a “Smart City” in almost “all areas of daily life” for years. After all, Munich has “an extraordinarily good transport infrastructure and connections to global destinations”. The car association said nothing about money. Money was important in the decision-making process, security and, in the end, mood.


“Berlin is hostile to cars”
“Berlin is a totally hostile city,” a VDA board member told Tagesspiegel. And also in a geographical “peripheral location”. There is wasteland around the city, and whether the settlement of Tesla in the surrounding area has worked as a advantage or disadvantage of the Berlin application is open. The fact is: the rich region of Munich mainly attracts the sales people of the manufacturers. The counties with the highest per capita income in Germany are located there.


The Munich exhibition center is very modern, the airport works. But Munich is the home town of BMW, and participation by Mercedes, Audi and Porsche in the shadow of the BMW headquarters was long unimaginable. BMW now wants to cover its own logo on the building during the IAA. And the Olympic site originally planned for the open space area of the new IAA, which is next to BMW , will be replaced by locations in the middle of the city: Odeonsplatz, Wittelsbacherplatz and Königsplatz are also supposed to be locations of the IAA become. And to a certain extent replace the Brandenburg Gate.


“Berlin is too radical”
The Berlin IAA concept stood out with an opening of the fair in front of the gate and an opening concert on the car fan mile between the Brandenburg Gate and victory column out. “This is too radical for many,” says the industry. “Berlin stands for a deep break.” But many do not want a break, but an exhibition with many visitors. And in Munich you are on the safer side. The IAA has been taking place in Frankfurt am Main since the 1950 years. Like the industry, the fair was in crisis; significantly fewer exhibitors and visitors came in September. The IAA should therefore be relocated to a new location.


Berlin was ahead
“Berlin is a new beginning. Without further communication needs. National and international, ”argued Christian Göke, the head of the state-owned Messe Berlin, who developed the concept for the new IAA. Under the direction of Michael Müller, the Berlin application team including Jürgen Klinsmann had on 23. Presented the new IAA at the VDA headquarters on Bebelplatz on January 1st. And it was heard that the best thing to do was cut off. Next to the exhibition halls under the radio tower and the street of 17. In June Göke proposed the summer garden as an off-road course, the Avus for classic cars and the Tempelhofer Feld for Formula E as locations. Other strengths of Berlin: the start-up scene, the research and science landscape and the seat of the government. Alone: it was not enough to overcome the concerns.


“In view of the recent economic policy decisions by the Senate, it is imperative that Berlin work on broadcasting it as a business location,” commented IHK President Beatrice Kramm the defeat of Berlin. “If you don't want to or can't attract organizers with financial incentives, it is all the more important that everyone involved stands together in the interest of the city.”

The actual Messe Halls are more like Palexpo in Geneva all connected without the need to walk for miles.
They are substantially sized too. Especially if you take word from BMW who want their own hall for 2021.
I expect others will probably follow suit.
Although in Bavaria it is still Germany's show.

 

[LaArtist]

I just puked in my mouth

 

[Betty Swollocks]

Here's what you need to know about Munich vs Berlin for the IAA. Expect childless multiple cat owners.

I don't understand why you keep saying "childless"?

You're doing yourself no favours in the way you describe the protestors. Whilst I don't agree with the extreme actions of the protestors, YOU just come across as extreme as them, just at the opposite end.

 

[Deleted member 1071]

Minga is' a mordstrum Gaudi ! Und "baßt scho'" als Ausstellungsort.

The mix of palate pleasing Bavarian cuisine, good beers, interesting architecture, the English Garden, the lovely, scenic general vicinity and southern Germanys' welcoming and innovative high technology environment make Munich an ideal IAA venue. Don't get me wrong...I like Berlin. In small, occasional doses. It can be good fun. Unfortunately, Berlin can also be synonymous with "chaos" and is the embodiment of a woefully poorly governed, unmanagable city.