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Racing driver Daniel Abt suspended for using ringer to compete for him in online event. Do you think he deserves that kind of punishment? Overreacting a bit?

Sim-Skandal in der Formel E: Audi feuert Daniel Abt! - autobild.de
 
What the hell was Daniel thinking? He couldn’t have thought to get away with this, no? Is he that stupid? I thought he was slightly more intelligent than Hulkenberg (which I know doesn’t say much).
 
I hate eSport sim-racing, so I can't say I'd care personally, but to think your employer, team, sponsors or series organiser is going to be as passive about it is moronic. At best he was doing it "for a laugh", and therefore basically showing none of those people listed, or his competitors, any respect... or, at worst, it was a genuine attempt at cheating his balls off... all he needed was Dr. Ulrich on the radio shouting "Schieb ihn raus", and it would have been the full Audi experience!

To reiterate... professional drivers in eSports, and eSport motor racing in general makes me want to smack my face against the corner of my glass table... but he should've known better.

It could be worse... look up what happened to Kyle Larson in NASCAR...
 
all he needed was Dr. Ulrich on the radio shouting "Schieb ihn raus", and it would have been the full Audi experience!
LOL mate :ROFLMAO: Excellent and hilarious referencing! I think I'll never forget that incident!

I'm not following E-sports in general as I stated previously, and I still can't. Not only I feel like I'm watching something on playstation or xbox, but the general behaviour is kinda similar to this:

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Anyway, I don't know much about what's going on in E-Formula-E at the moment, but Abt's cheating is stupid, plain and simple. I can't tell if he deserves to be dropped from the whole series as per the news, but he's supposed to be smarter than that, just like @tristatez28lt1 mentioned.

to think your employer, team, sponsors or series organiser is going to be as passive about it is moronic. At best he was doing it "for a laugh", and therefore basically showing none of those people listed, or his competitors, any respect... or, at worst, it was a genuine attempt at cheating his balls off...
I agree with what you said here, but I also get a feeling that E-sports aren't taken seriously by some folks, whether drivers or fans, which is why it's possible that there's something lacking with the concept.

Or I am just an old fashioned who doesn't adapt, and E-Sports are AO-SIM!
 
@Grosser it would be more useful if you put some information to make the post better! I haven't been following Formula E at the moment, so what's supposed to be new about this reveal?

Thanks :)
 
I have to say, the Halo integration on the Formula E cars is much better than in F1, or Indycar's Aeroscreen.
 
@Grosser it would be more useful if you put some information to make the post better! I haven't been following Formula E at the moment, so what's supposed to be new about this reveal?

Thanks :)
From Daimler
The Mercedes-Benz Motorsport family is taking a firm stand against racism and all forms of discrimination while advocating greater diversity.

  • The Mercedes-Benz EQ Formula E Team will contest the season’s last six races with an all-black base livery.
  • Demonstration of solidarity: On the weekend of 8/9 August, all four Formula 1 and Formula E racing cars will line up with all-black base liveries.
  • The slogan ‘End Racism’ will be prominently displayed on the halos of the cars driven by Stoffel Vandoorne and Nyck de Vries.
  • Bettina Fetzer: “The decision to change the distinctive look of our electric Silver Arrows underlines our stance in favour of openness and respect in our dealings with each other.”
  • Ian James: “We have always spoken out clearly against racism and all forms of discrimination, as they do not have a place in our team, in our sport or in our society”
  • A visualisation of the new livery is available to download on our media site
Up until now, the Mercedes-Benz EQ Formula E Team’s debut season has been about facing various sporting challenges. However, even before the Team gets the first of the final six rounds of the ABB FIA Formula E Championship Season underway in early August after a five-month break, we as a part of the Mercedes-Benz Motorsport family wish to make a stand against racism and discrimination in whatever form it manifests itself.

Like our counterparts from the Mercedes-AMG Petronas F1 Team, the Mercedes-Benz EQ Formula E Team is speaking out openly and clearly against racism while advocating greater diversity. For this reason, the two Mercedes-Benz EQ Silver Arrow 01s will also have an all-black base livery for the season finale in the ABB FIA Formula E Championship. On the weekend of 8/9 August 2020, all four Mercedes-Benz Formula 1 and Formula E racing cars will show their solidarity at the racetrack. In addition, the slogan ‘End Racism’ will be prominently displayed on the halos of the two drivers, Stoffel Vandoorne and Nyck de Vries.

“In Formula E too, we intend to use the voice we have on our global platform to make a stand against racism and discrimination and in support of greater diversity and tolerance in society,” says Bettina Fetzer, Vice-President Marketing, Mercedes-Benz Cars. “We are proud of our long tradition and of the successful history of our brand in motorsport. The decision to change the distinctive look of our electric Silver Arrows underlines our stance in favour of openness and respect in our dealings with each other. The black base livery of our racing cars is a reminder to all of us of the need for ongoing, long-term consolidation of our values and of mutual respect.”

“We have always spoken out clearly against racism and all forms of discrimination, as they do not have a place in our team, in our sport or in our society,” said Ian James, Team Principal of the Mercedes-Benz EQ Formula E Team. “However, recent events around the world have shown that we all need to do more to use our platform to speak out against racism and discrimination. As part of the Mercedes-Benz Motorsport family, we’re sending out a clear signal for change.”

The team are aware that changes cannot be brought about overnight. Rather, they see themselves as being just at the beginning of a long process, in which everyone in the team will have to face many challenges. “We know that we have to invest a lot of time and commitment in order to develop the right strategy,” said Ian James. “We have started work on it for our outfit and will conduct the way our team acts accordingly.”

The Team’s goal is holistic in approach, to improve the quality of life in cities in a sustainable manner. That also means supporting diversity and integration programmes that are effective at a local level.

“Racing is an industry, in which ethnic diversity and gender equality have traditionally not been very prevalent,” said Ian James. “So, there is still a long way to go to compensate for the imbalance in all areas of our workforce. However, from the very first days of our budding team, we have campaigned for equal opportunities for all and against discrimination in all forms. Together with our partners, we see it as a duty to promote and train young talents - regardless of ancestry or gender - in order to give them the opportunity to join Formula E in the years to come.”
 
Formula E 2020 Champion, António Félix da Costa :love:

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Audi leaving.

and now...

BMW leaving...
I've just seen the post on BMW Motorsport facebook page, and I knew you'd beat me to it, mate ;)

Well, I have to say that I didn't expect that... just yesterday, they made a post about Max Günther nailing the pre season practice, and now they're leaving, which is very close to Audi's departure.

Covid-19 hit several businesses real hard, motorsports among them, as it's the first thing for the manufacturers to sacrifice when they need to cut costs.

It's possible that BMW needs to save some cash, as yesterday they were talking about the future of their GTLM program (let's leave this topic for the sportscar racing thread), and / or that Formula E doesn't generate enough return of investment to justify staying... I mean, two major manufacturers leaving within few days will not be good for the premier electric racing series

I didn't get into FE. I tried for 3 seasons, but got nowhere. An important part of this is the lack of coverage. They have an official youtube channel, but the races aren't uploaded or geo blocked. The other part is the rubbish tracks. I like the push for EV in motorsports, and the second gen looks cool, and sometimes the racing was fun, but it's not a complete package for me.

Losing 4 cars in an entry list of 24 cars will not shrink the grid noticeably, but are we going to see another departure?

Back to BMW... will they go somewhere else, or go back to Munich?

EDIT:
BMW will compete this season, and it looks like Audi is doing the same, so the grid will not be affected...
 
I can only hope that like Audi, BMW will be moving to LMDh racing as it relates more to 'sportscar' racing with electrification.
 
I can only hope that like Audi, BMW will be moving to LMDh racing as it relates more to 'sportscar' racing with electrification.

Looks like Audi is going to Dakar with a BEV and are building an LMDh car

"It has also been confirmed that Audi is "intensively preparing" an entry into the new top-flight Le Mans Daytona Hybrid (LMDh) hypercar class of the World Endurance Championship. No date for the company's first race has been given, but manufacturers including Toyota and Peugeot are signed up to enter the category for the 2022 race, with Lamborghini and Porsche also rumoured to be considering an entry."

I frankly don't see the point in Audi, Lamborghini and Porsche all entering.
 
I'd be all for BMW joining LMDh - shift the pure EV effort to ETCR and get behind the E-DTM concept, and focus on the customer racing programmes in GT3 and GT4, the M2 racing and develop the M8 GTE for GT2, if that ever takes off. BMW can always go back to Formula E if it flourishes in Gen 3.

And as for Formula E, the lap times set at the test were quite a lot faster than the V8 era DTM cars at that circuit, 10-15 seconds a lap. That's faster than I thought they'd be to be honest - assuming they were testing on the full GP track.
 
I bought two tickets to the Foo Fighters for London in June for £512, if you want to go you have to pay.

It's a shit ticket though. The circuit is objectively terrible for spectators, there's hardly any support races and the on track action is poor at best, farcical at worst, and on top of that there's all the additional costs involved with being in London for an event. It's double to quadruple the cost of a full weekends racing at a proper circuit for the BTCC and worse by pretty much any measure. I'd still quite like to support Formula E since the number of international series coming here seems to be in decline, but if you want to charge FIA ticket prices go to a decent venue, and if you're not going to a decent venue, halve the prices.

It'd be like paying £512 to see the Faux Fighters in June, and getting a ticket behind a stantion.

Enjoy the Foo's though, I've only been to London stadium once and it was for motorsport, I'll always have fond memories of Stratford though.
 
Its my second Foos concert, the first was in Oslo the weekend before Dave broke his leg falling off the stage in Goteborg.

On top of the concert tickets are two night accommodation, plus flights there and back, as well as food. I don't think there will be much change out of 20,000 NOK.
 

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