Formula E discussion thread


I have to admit that I'm still pushing myself to follow Formula E, but still cannot find the urge to do so. I almost forgot about the Marrakesh E Prix that took place almost three weeks ago.

Here is the race to anyone who wants to watch the full replay:



If the video is too long, this is the extended highlights video:



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In other news, the new car for the 2018/2019 season has been revealed. The car is said to be capable of 300 KPH.

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Here are the links:

Formula E reveals second-generation car

New Formula E car capable of more than 300km/h

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The next race, the Santiago E-Prix will take place this Saturday, 3 February.

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If anyone is interested, check out the official Youtube channel to see if they'll live-stream the event.
 
Well that new look is certainly spectacular, much more than the racing provided by this series.
 
Looks pretty cool, but worse than F1. IndyCar, especially in oval configuration, is by far the best looking car. Damn Halo.
Does FE keep the grid girls? That would keep me watching.

P.S. what a mess up by F1 to cut grid girls. I'm neither a sexist nor do I objectify women and women and machines are a great combination. I think F1 is not helping them. It would interest me to know why they decided against. Was it #metoo?
 
The 5th race in the 2017-2018 calendar, the Mexico E-Prix, will take place today on the Rodriguez circuit, should be interesting at least compared to the previous street circuits!!

This is the livestream (Qualifying):


I don't know when the race will start, but if anyone is interested you can check the Youtube channel for any livestreaming (if they will broadcast the race live on their channel anyway, as they started to upload the race after it is finished)

EDIT: The race will start at 4:00 PM local time (10:00 PM GMT time) according to the commentators!

Meanwhile, here is the replay of the 4th race, the Santiago Street Circuit:


On a personal note, I still can't find the urge to follow the series (I don't like the layout of the street circuits they are using), so let's see today if the race in Mexico will be different
 
I've been struggling to find time to follow this also.

I think part of it though, is social media 'snow-blindness'... since FE takes place over the winter season, it's not normally when I'm looking out for races. I follow it on Facebook, but they're posting stuff all the time, pointless stuff and old stuff, I might get 20 posts from Formula E, and not realise that 4 of them relate to a race that's on this weekend... that's overuse of social media as far as I'm concerned... I know they're trying to engage a younger audience, but it seems like they're more interesting in capturing the younger generation that wants to watch 6 seconds clips, than those that are actually race fans.

... still, next year... Audi, BMW, Mercedes, Porshce!

I can already hear the part-time glory supporters, gnashing their fanboi fangs!
 
Well, it is less than 10 days to the start of the first race in the fifth season, the 2018-2019 season of ABB Formula E.

There will be several new additions and changes to this season compared to the previous ones (I'll try to list the changes below), the main thing is the addition of the new car that is faster and can last longer, meaning there is no car swapping anymore.

Is anyone interested to give it a shot this time around?

This is a summary of the upcoming season, which will be in two posts (the format doesn't allow for more than 30 pics per single post).

Calendar:

Race 1 | 15 DEC 2018
AD Diriyah, Saudi Arabia

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Race 2 | 12 JAN 2019
Marrakesh, Morocco
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Race 3 | 26 JAN 2019
Santiago, Chili
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Race 4 | 16 FEB 2019
Mexico City, Mexico
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Race 5 | 10 MAR 2019
Hong Kong, Hong Kong
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Race 6 | 23 MAR 2019
Sanya, China
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Race 7 | 13 APR 2019
Rome, Italy
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Race 8 | 27 APR 2019
Paris, France
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Race 9 | 11 MAY 2019
Monaco, Monaco
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Race 10 | 25 MAY 2019
Berlin, Germany
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Race 11 | 22 JUN 2019
Bern, Switzerland

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Race 12 | 13 JUL 2019
New York City, USA
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Race 13 | 14 JUL 2019
New York City, USA
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Teams and Drivers (PART 1):


Some big names will join the grid this year, such as Felipe Massa, Garry Paffett, Stoffel Vandoorne, Pascal Wehrlein and Alexander Sims, in addition to an already good list of well known names in motorsports.

Manufacturer's involvement is bigger than ever, with BMW joining as a full factory team through Andretti Autosport, Mercedes will run unofficially through its long time racing partner HWA which is a new entry, Nissan replacing Renault (who wants to focus on Formula 1, as they claimed), in addition to the rest of the manufacturers involved in the series. Audi will have its own team in addition to providing the drivetrain for Virgin Racing.

Here is the list of the teams and the drivers:

Audi Sport ABT Schaeffler (Germny):

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Lucas Di Grassi (Brazil) Daniel Abt (Germany)

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BMW i Andretti Motorsport (Germany):

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Antonio Felix Da Costa (Portugal) Alexander Sims (UK)

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Envision Virgin Racing (UK):

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Sam Bird (UK) Robin Frijns (Netherlands)

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Geox Dragon (USA):

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Jose Maria Lopez (Argentina) Max Guenther (Germany)

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Panasonic Jaguar Racing (UK):

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Nelson Piquet Jr. (Brazil) Mitch Evans (New Zealand)

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Mahindra Racing (India):

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Jerome D'Ambrosio (Belgium) Felix Rosenqvist (Sweden)

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Teams and Drivers (Part 2):

NIO Formula E Team (UK):


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Oliver Turvey (UK) Tom Dillmann (France)

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DS Techeetah Formula E Team (China):

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Jean Eric Vergne (France) Andre Lotterer (Germany)

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Venturi Formula E Team (Monaco):

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Edoardo Mortara (Switzerland) Felipe Massa (Brazil)

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Nissan E Dams (Japan):

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Sebastian Buemi (Switzerland) Oliver Rowland (UK)

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HWA Racelab (Germany):

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Stoffel Vandoorne (Belgium) Gary Paffett (UK)

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The car:

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Here is a video to explain the difference between Gen 1 and Gen 2 cars:

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Another thing that is new is the "Attack Mode":

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This is the official youtube channel:

www.youtube.com/user/FIAFormulaE/featured
 
About anyone that is interested in following this season...

For me, it depends on a number of things, but mainly if I can organize my time to follow the races live, or at least watching the replays as soon as it'll be uploaded, provided that their YouTube channel allows for watching a livestream or a replay in the US.

What somehow pushed me away from following the series is something that is still around, which is the street circuit calendar. I don't like street circuits due to being narrow (somewhat true) and almost no character (personal opinion), and the new car looks wider, so I don't know if overtaking or at least avoiding crashing into each other will be better. There are some new tricks that claim to improve the racing, so I need to watch at least one or two races to form an opinion.

Formula E is trying to appeal to the young crowd, which can be felt through their social media. I can understand their motives even though I would say that they're trying a bit too hard, but they represent themselves as the new, progressive form of motorsports.

Oh, I forgot to mention: Fanboost is still a stupid idea no matter how they spin it!!
 
With some interesting drivers on the grid (incl. my compatriots Daniel Abt and Andre' Lotterer), I'll make an effort to follow it a bit more closely. In general, I like the concept and high manufacturer participation-but agree that fewer street circuits would benefit the series.

A bit OT: I'll be closely watching Mick Schumachers' progress in F2 net season.
 
I decided to give it a try since the first race will be in my country (Saudi Arabia), I need to follow up with the rules to understand the race.

Fanboost is very silly, I think they are trying too hard to attract fans, but its still a silly idea. Imagine voting for your football team to get a penalty !

I have a feeling that Alonso might join next season. If this happens please sign me in :LOL:
 
With some interesting drivers on the grid (incl. my compatriots Daniel Abt and Andre' Lotterer), I'll make an effort to follow it a bit more closely. In general, I like the concept and high manufacturer participation-but agree that fewer street circuits would benefit the series.
To anyone who is familiar with the different forms of motorsports and not only Formula 1, Formula E has possibly the strongest list of drivers, with different backgrounds and experience. In addition to the Formula 1 drivers, You have Prototype drivers, GT drivers, DTM drivers, and a good list of Formula feeder series drivers.

I think that this is a good platform and a good opportunity for Formula drivers who cannot secure a seat in Formula 1 as the series is growing and the manufacturers are getting directly involved (next season will see Porsche and Mercedes in full force). As a BMW fan myself, I'm looking forward to see how they'll do. During the pre season testing, they were the fastest a number of times. Should be a good fight with Audi, DS, Nissan and Jaguar.

However, I usually have my concerns about manufacturers getting directly involved in any kind of motorsports as it becomes what they call an "arms race" and trying to out spend each other to win the title. Organizers of Formula E have voiced their concern about this as well and they said they'll be strict regarding this subject. Let's see if they can do as such.

Regarding the street circuits - as much as I don't like them personally for the reasons I mentioned previously, you can sense that they are targeting the modern market and showing a different image, with almost everything new and not closely related to the legacy motorports, including the well known race circuits that are used for the various classes.

A bit OT: I'll be closely watching Mick Schumachers' progress in F2 net season.
I usually follow F2 due to the good racing they have, which, to me, are better than Formula 1. My first time watching Mick was in 2016 in Formula 4 where he was competitive, which encouraged me to follow him in Euro Formula 3 in 2017, but didn't have the chance to see how he won the championship this year. While I may say that Leclerc is braver and has a more daring driving, Mick has proven to learn very quickly from his mistakes, so he has the raw driving characteristics. He needs to polish them with every single race.

Looking forward to follow F2 next year if I can. Hopefully we can have some other people who are willing to follow it as well so we can have a good discussion (y)

I decided to give it a try since the first race will be in my country (Saudi Arabia), I need to follow up with the rules to understand the race.
Formula E feels a bit different from the rest of the motorsports classes, racing wise. You may try to approach it with different attitude if you want to follow it. I can't explain exactly how or why it is different; you need to see it for yourself :)

The points system is similar to the one in Formula 1 which is 25-18-15-12-10-8-6-4-2-1 for the first 10 positions, while there are 3 points for the pole position and 1 point for the fastest lap. Power is limited to 110 KW during the shakedown (like a pre-free practice) with power limited to 110 KW. Practice, Qualifying and Main race have a power range of 250 KW.

The stupid Fanboost gives additional power to the highest voted for driver to be used in a 5 seconds window during the race, and now they have the attack mode or "Mario Kart mode" (really they are trying too hard) which is similar to the push to pass system overboost that is used in some forms of racing.

This is the rules & regulations page from the website, if you want to know more:

www.fiaformulae.com/en/championship/regulations/

About the first race being in Al Diriyah, I was thinking why they chose a historic place. I don't know much about the demography of Saudi Arabia, but I think that Jeddah suits the series better. Could be wrong, however.

As for Alonso, nothing is completely clear about where he'll go to from F1. He didn't say anything about Formula E, and I think he'll be more involved in WEC. But everything is possible...
 
What somehow pushed me away from following the series is something that is still around, which is the street circuit calendar. I don't like street circuits due to being narrow (somewhat true) and almost no character (personal opinion), and the new car looks wider, so I don't know if overtaking or at least avoiding crashing into each other will be better.

A few years ago I attended London Grand Prix at Battersea and that was probably the worst kind of street circuit. However it was a race but also a showcase to make motorsport more accessible. A 20min walk to the circuit was a lot easier than leaving the house at 06:00am to drive to Silverstone and only return at 10:00pm.

I look forward to following Formula E now that it will air for free on BBC and there is no more car swapping. It's a huge step forward and I think viewership will grow next year to the point that Formula E will become a default option for those who fail to secure an F1 seat.
 
To anyone who is familiar with the different forms of motorsports and not only Formula 1, Formula E has possibly the strongest list of drivers, with different backgrounds and experience. In addition to the Formula 1 drivers, You have Prototype drivers, GT drivers, DTM drivers, and a good list of Formula feeder series drivers.

I think that this is a good...
Thanks @M.N.D , I will sure approach it with open mind.

Jeddah is a coastal city with beautiful red sea view. It has more open culture and mixed nationalities population. I think you are absolutely correct, Jeddah would have been more suitable for such event, but who knows why Al Dariyah was selected. Could be because of its historic location and tourism advertisement.
 
A few years ago I attended London Grand Prix at Battersea and that was probably the worst kind of street circuit. However it was a race but also a showcase to make motorsport more accessible. A 20min walk to the circuit was a lot easier than leaving the house at 06:00am to drive to Silverstone and only return at 10:00pm.

I understand that the transport links to the area are a lot better, but if you weren't in the area already getting to London isn't the most convenient thing. If you live 20 mins from Battersea, and I live 20 mins from Silverstone, our journeys would be comparable, no?
 
Regarding the street circuits - as much as I don't like them personally for the reasons I mentioned previously, you can sense that they are targeting the modern market and showing a different image, with almost everything new and not closely related to the legacy motorports, including the well known race circuits that are used for the various classes.

Don't forget that these kind of circuits are kinder to the power reserve in the car, I'm pretty sure that's half the reason they've not ventured out onto proper circuits yet.
 
A few years ago I attended London Grand Prix at Battersea and that was probably the worst kind of street circuit. However it was a race but also a showcase to make motorsport more accessible. A 20min walk to the circuit was a lot easier than leaving the house at 06:00am to drive to Silverstone and only return at 10:00pm.
According to the news feed on Motorsport.com, the organizers are planning to bring London E Prix back on the calendar. I'm not sure if it'll be the same street circuit or a new one.

I look forward to following Formula E now that it will air for free on BBC and there is no more car swapping. It's a huge step forward and I think viewership will grow next year to the point that Formula E will become a default option for those who fail to secure an F1 seat.
The series is growing, and I have to say that they knew how to get the attention of the followers by getting them involved in the race through Fanboost. Also, keeping the series under control cost-wise will get new teams and drivers to be a part of it as the chances of winning races and fighting for the title is higher due to the performance of the cars being closer to each other, which is an advantage of using a one spec chassis. Some may argue against it, but looking at Formula 1, I have no problem with that. I prefer seeing different drivers fight for the title, rather than the same faces over and over and over.

Jeddah is a coastal city with beautiful red sea view. It has more open culture and mixed nationalities population. I think you are absolutely correct, Jeddah would have been more suitable for such event, but who knows why Al Dariyah was selected. Could be because of its historic location and tourism advertisement.
I'm not sure of the population of Al Diriyah, but I suspect it is not that large, and this may become harder for people to reach the city to watch the race live. Still, it could help the city for the better.

Don't forget that these kind of circuits are kinder to the power reserve in the car, I'm pretty sure that's half the reason they've not ventured out onto proper circuits yet.
That is a good point that I didn't think of (y) but now that they have the new car which they intend to keep for some time (possibly five years), maybe we will see an E Prix on a true race circuit sometime in the future, especially if there are plans to improve the car's range and performance.
 
According to the news feed on Motorsport.com, the organizers are planning to bring London E Prix back on the calendar. I'm not sure if it'll be the same street circuit or a new one.

I'll certainly be making an effort to visit if this is the case.

On the fanboost thing, I'm 50/50.. it is a bit silly, and not really that fair, but promoting fan interaction is a worthwhile cause... and you KNOW I'm going to mashing the fanboost button for the BMW drivers hard every race!
 

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